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Old 02-12-2005, 02:35 PM   #1
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Need Input My bands 1st Single (take a listen)

Well to most of yuo guys Im just a guy that shoots coeds on spring break but I also am a musician and have ben working on an all original project . here is the first single . It is not edited for radio yet so it is 5 min long . Post what you think and also what you think it sounds like musicaly .

Band Name : Screamin east
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http://drunkdials.com/beach/01Tracksorrow1.wma

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Old 02-12-2005, 02:37 PM   #2
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Reminded me alot of Velvet Revolver in the begining..fall to pieces ...not bad at all
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:39 PM   #3
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Thanx Bro We are in the studio all spring and have a few already looking at us ...

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Old 02-12-2005, 02:44 PM   #4
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Yes this is why it is my last spring break ... I am retiring from the porn biz and pursuing my dream ...The album will be done early summer and hopefully opening up for a few acts by then ..
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:55 PM   #7
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sounds good, but please make an mp3 instead of a windows media file
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Nicely done but extremely unoriginal and boring
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Got ya bro ... This is how the studio sent it to me like 5 minutes ago and I wanted to get it out here fast
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Nicely done but extremely unoriginal and boring
Criticism Taken . So what do you play?
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Old 02-12-2005, 04:23 PM   #11
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Reminded me alot of Velvet Revolver in the begining..fall to pieces ...
not bad, make the vocals louder? post more
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Being a drummer myself... I can appreciate tight licks like that.
Nice drumming. Nice sound.
Guitar is a little stock in my book.
Vocals are pretty good. Definitly album material.
Oversall sound is great. But like I said... guitar is "stock".
At the end the of song it as getting to me.
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Yes we are adding a few more guitar tracks . This is just the Pre Demo .
Thanx on the drumming bro Im a niel pert freak !
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Criticism Taken . So what do you play?
Ive been playing guitar for about 15 years. Played drums for a few years as well. Had a couple bands but never cared to continue it.. I was always into just playin for fun.. I always played metal tunes for the most part.. More fun.
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Great tune, I like that.
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You guys are really talented, but it seems like some of it is borrowed from other artists. I hate to agree with MrJackMeHoff, but he's sort of right.
I don't mean to burn ya down because it sounds really good and you guys are definitely talented, but there is just nothing "special" about the tune or anything.
Hope you know what I mean
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Old 02-12-2005, 06:31 PM   #17
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I think its pretty dope.I want to hear some more tracks.
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Thanx Guys Im always down for constructive critisizm.

The track actually has alot of meaning to it .

The singers brother died at the age of 18 from cancer so Its a dedication to him if you listen to the lyrics you will understand.

Also as I said this is the demo not fully mixed down.

The track will only be a little over 3 minutes when complete.
we have 8 Tracks total all very diferent from one another , we actually have a Tune with a Dj and a Rapper on it that is linkin park sounding ..
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Am I the only who can't open it? It keeps crashing my browsers.
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Got it to work in IE. It did sound like Velvet Revolver.

Not my type of music but good luck it.
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I truly appreciate the criticizm . -This thread is going to my engineers thats why I asked for the comments
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Thanx Tank .... I will miss being around the shows and partyng with ya ... Im just going with my dream. Looks like we will be touring this summer
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You guys are really talented, but it seems like some of it is borrowed from other artists. I hate to agree with MrJackMeHoff, but he's sort of right.
I don't mean to burn ya down because it sounds really good and you guys are definitely talented, but there is just nothing "special" about the tune or anything.
Hope you know what I mean
I understand what your saying . But honestly none of my bandmates listen to the new stuff that is out there they are Huge Rush and Kiss fans and are from the old school of rock . So it sort of feels good that we sound like the newer bands out there since our influnces are none of the new artists at all .!

Oh and By the Way this is a 3 Piece Band
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Thanx Bro We are in the studio all spring and have a few already looking at us ...

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your a new band with no track record or soundscan results? I doubt any label is looking at you with no soundscan results.... I could be wrong, but find it unilikely.
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that track is all over the place and as said already sounds alot like fall to pieces in the beginning/end which probably wont workout good for you
vocals need alot of work
id cut about 1min off the total track time too
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your a new band with no track record or soundscan results? I doubt any label is looking at you with no soundscan results.... I could be wrong, but find it unilikely.
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That's a sweet track man, good luck with it!
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Sounds good overall, but the vocals were really washed out on my speakers. Also, seems you have quite a bit of unnecessary "filler" in there, but like you said this isn't the final cut so Im sure you'll work that stuff out.

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I'll be down in the keys in a couple weeks. If you guys are playing it'd be cool to check you out.
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ive been reviewing/producing/promoting for 4+years.

the first 50 seconds of that track should be deleted. there is no reason for a rock song to have a 55 second intro. nothing like that will ever make it on a commercial radio.

you want to get right into things. if you must have an intro period to that song, limit it to 5-10 seconds.

a buddy of mine worked at emi doing things and told me a lot of the people who listen to and determine wether or not they like a band often listen to the first 30 seconds and make a decision there. youve got to capture the listener from the first few seconds, and that boring, repetitive, unexciting intro wont get you anywhere with a major label. suck in all the indie labels you want, but id cut the first minute out and start rocking right away.

id also not retire from doing your websites. when your band fails like 99% of other bands, then you may find yourself starting over with your site/s. id at least keep the traffic up on them...

also, i do like the song except for the intro, so here:
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your engineer is a guitarist?
guitar is way to loud, drums sound thin, where is the bass?
way too much compression.

great drumming performance

before you ask, i play bass in two bands, playing guitar >20 years and i am a 'engineer in practice' (practice never stops...)
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the first 50 seconds of that track should be deleted. there is no reason for a rock song to have a 55 second intro. nothing like that will ever make it on a commercial radio.

you want to get right into things. if you must have an intro period to that song, limit it to 5-10 seconds.

a buddy of mine worked at emi doing things and told me a lot of the people who listen to and determine wether or not they like a band often listen to the first 30 seconds and make a decision there. youve got to capture the listener from the first few seconds, and that boring, repetitive, unexciting intro wont get you anywhere with a major label. suck in all the indie labels you want, but id cut the first minute out and start rocking right away.

id also not retire from doing your websites. when your band fails like 99% of other bands, then you may find yourself starting over with your site/s. id at least keep the traffic up on them...

also, i do like the song except for the intro, so here:
http://www.twelvefifteen.com/wsnm/music.php
thanx for criticism
I would never retire from doing what I do as far as being in the biz ... but your sorta a dick for saying dont quit your day job .. But point taken .

This thread rocks ! I am so happy to hear such great feedback .
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guitar is way to loud, drums sound thin, where is the bass?
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great drumming performance

before you ask, i play bass in two bands, playing guitar >20 years and i am a 'engineer in practice' (practice never stops...)

No my guitarists is not the engineer . We are recording in Upstate NY , same studio the Goo Goo Dolls have recoreded in.

As I say people this song wont be finished for at least another month .. It is no where near done . this 5 min version will be on the album not radio.
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Sounds pretty good, I have some friends that have a band back where i used to live. Chances of making it big are pretty astronomical but as lucky as you are you will probably make it BIG.

Maybe then you will quit whoreing out all the good content I shoot for you, lol
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its all lip sink... JK Holy crap .. I just got back home from a hot contest and turned this tune on full blast and it fucking rocks
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the melody isn't bad but the song is a bit cheezy
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BT and BV thanx for all the kind comments . I miss U Blue !

here is the deal ... there are a few others on here that say they are are in bands etc.

Well I want them to post their music here .

All Im saying is back it up .
No threats just post your music on this thread.

And if you cant back up your words ... than
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Music is good! a little metallica in there but the lyrics, not that graet....than again so many of todays "hits" have suck ass lyrics!
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I like the compressor on the vocals but it's being overused. Try staged compression. Sounds like trademark devon townsend reverb-usage, but i think it's overdone. I have a feeling it's to compensate for not-quite-up-to-spec songwriting. If this is for submission to a record company, vocals need to go WAY up. If this is for airplay, vocals need to go up a little bit. There is no need to bury this vocalist. He's pretty good. He just needs to be doubled in parts. If he sucked, he would still need to be higher, but he could be washed out in overdubs. The guitar sound in the intro needs to be more aggressive for radio play. NOT more distorted, perhaps just less compressed (there is NO attack on the notes). He'll have to pull out some mud to make the guitars not sound shitty if he rolls off the compression.

It may be too late for performance comments, but I will give you some anyway:

Drums: the drummer (you?) have a tendancy to speed up and slow down, specially during fills, and very much during ride fills. You might consider using strong bell hits instead of double strokes on the ride, or double stroked bells to differentiate them. You may (or may not) be playing to a metronome, but it does not prevent you from going out of time within a fill, or within the bar. Fills are uninteresting. This could be partly due to the horrible tom sound in the mix. Get your engineer to play with those toms big-time.

Bass: The producer should use new-york gating/compression to tighten up the bassist where he is not matching your kick properly. The only time when the bass *REALLY* cuts is when he's out of time.

Guitars: nice tones. Either good pre-production or you just have a good ear. You might want to check the intonation on the guitar. Your harmonics sound flat compared to your fretting. You could be fretting too hard.

Vocals: Really let loose. This isn't bad, but you can go further, cause record production always makes vocals sound *less* aggressive than they are.

Predictions: You will *not* get a major deal off this recording. You might be able to impress a small management company that will help you make some money off your local shows, and that's a good thing.

Are you guys good looking? If not, get in shape. You will not be heard unless they like your picture. Fuck the charts, fuck all that shit. I had lots of top charting songs (Nationwide Radio) and record labels didn't give a shit cause we're ugly. Now I write songs for good looking guys, and work out when I get a chance. Hopefully, I'll be fit before I'm too old.

Labels pick bands like I pick GF's. First, they've got to be good looking. If they pass that test, then I find out if they're talented.
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Old 02-15-2005, 06:09 PM   #49
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If you'd like to hear good comments, I mean really really good comments which includes lifting your spirit up.. don't ask in message boards, the wolves will eat you alive.

You require a decent recording system.
Your amps are not properly aligned.
You sound like the rest, no impact.

If this is grunge, the 90's has already passed.
If this is Alternative, not bad, not good either. Sorry.
If you can make this as porn music, you're in business.

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