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Old 11-11-2001, 07:34 AM   #1
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Ok ... How Bad is Paycom.Net/Epoch?

I'm starting a phone sex site and, as far as I know, CCbill and Ibill won't handle that ...

I haven't checked with Globill yet, but even if they do phone sex ...I'm told they don't scrub accounts as well as the others do ... and I DON'T want chargebacks ...

Paycom.net does handle phone sex ... but I've been researching posts where a good number of people complain that they don't pay ...

BUT ... there seems to be problems with everybody ... Ibill, CCbill, etc. ... if not payment, then other problems like Ibill being down alot lately, etc ...

And others say they don't have a problem with Paycom ...

I don't want to use PayPal ... I know a lot of people use them, but they're not a chartered financial institution and they're still not profitable ... there's some bad press on them as well ...

Should I resort to a merchant account and buy a database for scrubbing? If so ... where can I purchase the best scrubbing database?

As you can see ... even if you do some homework ... it's pretty confusing researching posts here and elsewhere ...
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Old 11-28-2001, 11:09 PM   #2
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I can eliminate your learning curve, feel free to give me a call in the office and I'll point you in the right directions for starting your phone sex operation. CCBill can be your 3rd party billing solution if you incorporate the right technology to sell it over the web.

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Old 11-28-2001, 11:52 PM   #3
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One of my nonadult companies uses Paycom/Epoch, never had a problem with them. Good support and very prompt!

In the adult industry, TopBucks is one of the bigger players that use Paycom/Epoch as their primary processor.

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Originally posted by erotictrance:
I'm starting a phone sex site and, as far as I know, CCbill and Ibill won't handle that ...

I haven't checked with Globill yet, but even if they do phone sex ...I'm told they don't scrub accounts as well as the others do ... and I DON'T want chargebacks ...

Paycom.net does handle phone sex ... but I've been researching posts where a good number of people complain that they don't pay ...

BUT ... there seems to be problems with everybody ... Ibill, CCbill, etc. ... if not payment, then other problems like Ibill being down alot lately, etc ...

And others say they don't have a problem with Paycom ...

I don't want to use PayPal ... I know a lot of people use them, but they're not a chartered financial institution and they're still not profitable ... there's some bad press on them as well ...

Should I resort to a merchant account and buy a database for scrubbing? If so ... where can I purchase the best scrubbing database?

As you can see ... even if you do some homework ... it's pretty confusing researching posts here and elsewhere ...
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Old 11-29-2001, 08:47 AM   #4
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I don't run my own paysite, so I speaking from the perspective of a referring webmaster.

I've had a couple of sponsors that use epoch/paycom over the years. For a time they got a few months behind in payments, but are pretty much caught up now, and they've always paid -- I get checks every other week quite regularly now.

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Old 11-29-2001, 08:52 AM   #5
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Thanks ... I appreciate all the comments.
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Old 11-29-2001, 09:35 AM   #6
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We have been using Epoch as our Primary processor for some time with no trouble at all.



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Old 11-29-2001, 09:49 AM   #7
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They aren't that bad, but they need to hire one of my programmers as their stats suck all the way.......

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Old 11-29-2001, 09:51 AM   #8
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Really????

What's up with their stats?
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Old 11-29-2001, 10:33 AM   #9
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If you get your own merchant account, buying a negative database is NOT the way to go.

Email me if you have any questions regarding scrubbing on your own acct. Both the accts and the scrubbing are things we work with many clients on.

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