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				Do people still make a living submitting galleries?
			 
			I've been out of the TGP business for a long time but I've started dabbling in it again for promoting CuteCouples. It seems nearly impossible to get a significant amount of traffic to a gallery, anymore. I've applied for partner accounts all over the place and 75% of the sites never get back to me. I had one or two rejections which is a fucking laugh since I have only high-quality movie galleries with exclusive content. In short, I seriously don't see how any one makes any noticable amount of money in TGPs these days without being connected from the inside. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Is it still possible for a newbie to make, say, $2K/month with gallery submissions? $1K/month? I don't see how. I know a lot of people in this business but since I haven't dealt with TGPs in a while, I don't know the right people in that portion of the industry. I can't see how someone could just come in off the streets and make money doing this anymore. I remember when you could start from scratch with submissions and be making money in a week. I'm just surprised at how useless gallery building seems to have become as a way of earning money. Everyone likes to sneer at gallery submitters but that's like the entry-level job in this industry and it seems to have almost completely dried up. Am I way off base on this? I mean, I make decent galleries with exclusive content, I don't cheat, I don't redirect, I don't fuck with surfers and I don't change galleries after they've been listed but even I can't seem to build up any traffic with galleries these days. Thank goodness CuteCouples doesn't depend on my ability to get galleries listed. There seems to be a small core of site owners who control all the TGP traffic and if you don't know them personally, you're fucked. I seriously doubt anyone could make a living with gallery submitting these days if they had to start from scratch. I wish I had kept in touch after I stopped operating TGPs. I don't even know who to talk to in the TGP business these days. Someone put me in touch with the right people so I can stop spinning my wheels. I'd forgotten how much gallery submitting sucks. SpaceAce  | 
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		 I've got lot's of webmasters, some that post here doing anywhere from 10-100+ sales a week with TGP/MGP's. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I think it's really hard to make money now with submission unless you got contacts and are already doing it since a long time. Market changed a lot in the last few years and now most of the tgp owner are using hosted galleries, selling their spots or only using submitted galleries from partner account. If you are the owner of the program, hosted galleries than submission and buying spot is the way to go. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 It sure is possible, just got to have a good DB of tgps and partner accounts. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Its boring and hard work. I make aprox 1k/month only from TGP submitting. But cant make a living out of it  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Gallery submissions are not high in demand. Especially now, considering TGP owners have access to 1000's of free hosted sponsor galleries which are just as good, if not better than submitted galleries. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I posted something similar this morning to a gallery thread (see below).  On a positive note, I submit to a few sites that I have partner accounts with and I generate my traffic other ways. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	"I wondered that in the past but let's be real. The people getting constantly listed have strong relationships, partner accounts, bought listings or the tgp owner is an affiliate. Just this past week I hit up 2 major tgps for a partner account and I didn't even get a response back. All my galleries are pro designed with an amateur feel. Just how I see things... I only push my own sites which have 100% exclusive content. At least a response back from the owner saying, we're full now or something like that. I emailed both and I sent them an icq saying who I was and that I've been around for 5yrs. Here's samples http://www.melindateen.com/nonnudetease/melindafun.html http://www.bustydating.com/blonde/perkytits.html  | 
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		 I don't see how a newb could make a living submitting. TGP game is not the same as it was. Most TGP's with major traffic don't accept submissions, and won't contact you if you submit for a partner account. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 Pimproll is one of my top sponsors, with great converting sites and some awesome people who run it! But to answer one of your questions.. I think it is kinda hard for a newbie to make a decent living with submitting galleries.. I mean, with all the big sites having paid partner accounts, or regular partner accounts for trusted webmasters, and not giving out any new ones, it is hard to generate a good amount of traffic to make a few sales a day.. submitting to smaller sites is a possibility, but I think 90-95% of my signups come from galleries listed on the bigger sites. 
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		 It's hard to get into the tgp game without paying and even then sites are sold out.I would just focus on making kick ass hosted galleries for sweetcouples and hope tgp, and mgp owners list them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I submitted galleries for a few weeks when I first started.. screw that crap.. That has to be the most boring thing in the world to do. Even with auto submitters.. Then dealing with all the BS rules and the morons with a odd ball sized thumbs..Just wasn't worth it IMO.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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	I made my fortune selling pubic wigs! New program Merkin Money coming soon!  | 
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		 Also try promoting microniches. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			There are some TGPs with 2-5k of targetted traffic but its so targetted converions are great. 
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	Care about me? Who? Me! Who?  | 
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		 Theres just no money in porn. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 You can make a living at anything if you are dedicated too it 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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