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Mole · 11-27-2001, 02:13 AM

Have anybody seen this deal?
http://www.cogentco.com/home.html

This deal looks very interesting. I wouldn't be surprised that a lot of them hosting companies are using their deal.

Another reason why you hosting people should stop beeing so greedy and offer cheaper per gig rate.

pornsuite · 11-27-2001, 02:29 AM

well its cheap, but I only hear bad things about cogentco.

funkmaster · 11-27-2001, 02:56 AM

... now this is something new, great stuff, after all it can´t be that bad ... all of national-net.com runs through it ...

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Mole · 11-27-2001, 03:25 AM

I did a traceroute on them and I haven't seen such a nice route for a long time.

It hits their backbone line right away after leaving my ISP's regular node path.

It seems their backbone goes all over the US.

How are they compared to other big players such as uunet, verio, qwest, etc?

I'm ready to FedEx my tower and hook up with them.

Timothy · 11-27-2001, 03:35 AM

You will get what you pay for.
$10 for 1 mbps is impossible. $100-$250 for 1mbps is reasonable. If you wanna try, go ahead. And don't forget to tell me the result after the first month

spacedog · 11-27-2001, 03:37 AM

You call that cheap!!
I get 100MBPs at $39.00 per month!

justsexxx · 11-27-2001, 03:51 AM

sure that cheap

LOL where?

spacedog · 11-27-2001, 04:09 AM

Time Warner!

cck · 11-27-2001, 04:29 AM

Thimothy our host that we hosting now is expeonsive but have excellent support and good transfer
My friend used to try www.exmasters.com that suck !

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Jon2 · 11-27-2001, 04:34 AM

Do a traceroute on adultwebmastersinfo.com and surprise

How often are they down? How is their speed? They are on congentco...Congentco is a really good provider and definately is worth it as I host all my stuff on them and they have the best backbone routes

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Mole · 11-27-2001, 04:37 AM

Well, you get what you pay for depends on where you shop.

These guys runs a major backbone so it's like buying straight from the factory instead of from 7-11 at the corner.

$10 for 1 Mbps might be impossible if you're a reseller, but it might be perfectly OK if you run the damn backbone.

Wanna know how I found out about them?

I did some traceroute on a few hosting companies who posted on this board and found they were using this deal.

I don't quite remember what hosting it was but I'm gonne dig it up.

I'm sure the people who are using this deal and re-sell it as virtual hosts and reap $2-4 per gig knows perfectly well who they are.

Fiber are abundant and getting cheaper and cheaper. 2002 is around the corner, so everybody should know that anything over $2 per gig is robbery. Hell, I'd consider $1.5 per gig expensive.

Yeah yeah yeah, you got 24 hour service and your operator girl is real cute and friendly.

If your facility is running smoothly, there's no need to ever call tech support.

Mole · 11-27-2001, 04:40 AM

I found it now. =)

If you wanna know how the link and service is, why not ask bythegighost.com

They're connected with these guys and I'm not sure, but they're probably using this $1000 per 100 Mbps deal.

funkmaster · 11-27-2001, 04:43 AM

... qualitythumbs, sure thing ... they are the best!!
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=9136

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Royaltee_Gee · 11-27-2001, 04:58 AM

its 3k usd for 100mbps i heard.

that 1k for 100mbps is if you order: 1000mbps

Royaltee_Gee · 11-27-2001, 04:59 AM

cogent is going bankrupt within 3-4 months though.

onlyreal · 11-27-2001, 05:10 AM

hi
cogentco is really good

but their problem is they oversell means they sell more than they have but hey how many of you can use 1000mpbs so they worth it

Mole · 11-27-2001, 05:33 AM

It's just business.

Most users will never use 100 Mbps. Maybe not even half, but a few will hit the limit.

Same as all airlines and hotels overbook.

oscer · 11-27-2001, 06:53 AM

Actually If you only Buy 100 megs you have to pay 3k a month

And you cannot Use it for Strictly adult Traffic you need to Have At least Half of what you have outgoing Incoming

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funkmaster · 11-27-2001, 07:06 AM

oscer ... just run a webspider of your box, that´ll do the trick!

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Ludedude · 11-27-2001, 10:39 AM

Fiber is cheeeeeeeeeep. Cogent has a shitload of fiber. You figure it out.

We've had 5 dedicated boxes on a big fat Cogent pipe since August. Going on 4 months with zero Cogent downtime. Compared to our last provider, it's not only a bargain, it's a fucking miracle.

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Doctor Dre · 11-27-2001, 10:49 AM

I haven't read the rest of the thread but it's for local usage ... They put the lines at your place. Thoses aren't commercial lines ...

missnglnk · 11-27-2001, 01:00 PM

First off, it's $1,000/month for business users, or what most people call 'eyes', you have to meet a specific traffic ratio to be billed at that rate, otherwise if you're wholesaling/hosting/whatever it's $3,000/month.

Secondly, you have to be in a building lit by Cogent, they will not bring FastEthernet to your door no matter how much bandwidth you order from them, your building has to have 6 unique tenants interested in Cogent in order for them to CONSIDER lighting your building.

I've heard too many people talk about getting Cogent, not understanding those 2 points, and then getting all pissy because they found out too late after they blabbed their mouth to hell and back, some even soothe theirselves by saying "Hey, they're going to go out of business anyway" *no fingers pointed here though*.

You don't roll out POPs in West Bumblefuck to serve only one customer, too many people think doing that and 'taking a loss' is an acceptable way of business, but it's not, hence why some ISPs are in trouble currently.

And as for the out of business part...I don't think Cogent is going under soon, after their merger with Allied Riser and buyout of Netrail, I don't think those are signs of a failing business.

On-top · 11-27-2001, 01:22 PM

Oscer and missnglnk are correct. You have to have a facility lit by Cogent in order to make use of those deals. Also, they are not big enough to handle all one direction bandwidth (such as for use as solely a web host). They have requirements about incoming/outgoing bandwidth ratios. With those requirements, it's not a scalable solution right now. Special deals are only going to get you to the 200-300 Mb/s level with them, and most hosts you deal with are well above that amount in one way traffic. So many of your web hosts go with good carriers with long standing service and business models. Also, if you're hosting with them, that 100Mb/s is going to cost you $3000 + machines + colo fees + ??.

Cogent does have a lot of cash, everyone has different experiences with their bandwidth, and no one is really confident in their business model. They lose a lot of money. If you want more info, let me know. ICQ: 15898919

OCTOBER 25, 2001:
The service provider, which opened in August 1999, lost $28 million on revenues of a mere $90,000 during the first six months of this year.
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=9136

11-27-2001, 02:13 AM	#1
Mole Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Thailand Posts: 26	100 Mpbs @ 1000 $/month Have anybody seen this deal? http://www.cogentco.com/home.html This deal looks very interesting. I wouldn't be surprised that a lot of them hosting companies are using their deal. Another reason why you hosting people should stop beeing so greedy and offer cheaper per gig rate.

11-27-2001, 02:29 AM	#2
pornsuite Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 651	well its cheap, but I only hear bad things about cogentco.

11-27-2001, 02:56 AM	#3
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... now this is something new, great stuff, after all it can´t be that bad ... all of national-net.com runs through it ... ------------------ Don't innovate - imitate! ... giving away mass traffic for free !!

11-27-2001, 03:25 AM	#4
Mole Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Thailand Posts: 26	I did a traceroute on them and I haven't seen such a nice route for a long time. It hits their backbone line right away after leaving my ISP's regular node path. It seems their backbone goes all over the US. How are they compared to other big players such as uunet, verio, qwest, etc? I'm ready to FedEx my tower and hook up with them.

11-27-2001, 03:35 AM	#5
Timothy Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 153	You will get what you pay for. $10 for 1 mbps is impossible. $100-$250 for 1mbps is reasonable. If you wanna try, go ahead. And don't forget to tell me the result after the first month

11-27-2001, 03:37 AM	#6
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	You call that cheap!! I get 100MBPs at $39.00 per month!

11-27-2001, 03:51 AM	#7
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	sure that cheap LOL where?

11-27-2001, 04:09 AM	#8
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Time Warner!

11-27-2001, 04:29 AM	#9
cck Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Thailand Posts: 244	Thimothy our host that we hosting now is expeonsive but have excellent support and good transfer My friend used to try www.exmasters.com that suck ! ------------------ Cutecookie April Cck Butter #64789135 Topbucks.com My Best sponsor X-clips.com Always welcome for your traffic trade

11-27-2001, 04:34 AM	#10
Jon2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,875	Do a traceroute on adultwebmastersinfo.com and surprise How often are they down? How is their speed? They are on congentco...Congentco is a really good provider and definately is worth it as I host all my stuff on them and they have the best backbone routes Jon

11-27-2001, 04:37 AM	#11
Mole Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Thailand Posts: 26	Well, you get what you pay for depends on where you shop. These guys runs a major backbone so it's like buying straight from the factory instead of from 7-11 at the corner. $10 for 1 Mbps might be impossible if you're a reseller, but it might be perfectly OK if you run the damn backbone. Wanna know how I found out about them? I did some traceroute on a few hosting companies who posted on this board and found they were using this deal. I don't quite remember what hosting it was but I'm gonne dig it up. I'm sure the people who are using this deal and re-sell it as virtual hosts and reap $2-4 per gig knows perfectly well who they are. Fiber are abundant and getting cheaper and cheaper. 2002 is around the corner, so everybody should know that anything over $2 per gig is robbery. Hell, I'd consider $1.5 per gig expensive. Yeah yeah yeah, you got 24 hour service and your operator girl is real cute and friendly. If your facility is running smoothly, there's no need to ever call tech support.

11-27-2001, 04:40 AM	#12
Mole Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Thailand Posts: 26	I found it now. =) If you wanna know how the link and service is, why not ask bythegighost.com They're connected with these guys and I'm not sure, but they're probably using this $1000 per 100 Mbps deal.

11-27-2001, 04:43 AM	#13
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... qualitythumbs, sure thing ... they are the best!! http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=9136 ------------------ Don't innovate - imitate! ... giving away mass traffic for free !!

11-27-2001, 04:58 AM	#14
Royaltee_Gee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 973	its 3k usd for 100mbps i heard. that 1k for 100mbps is if you order: 1000mbps

11-27-2001, 04:59 AM	#15
Royaltee_Gee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 973	cogent is going bankrupt within 3-4 months though.

11-27-2001, 05:10 AM	#16
onlyreal Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 853	hi cogentco is really good but their problem is they oversell means they sell more than they have but hey how many of you can use 1000mpbs so they worth it

11-27-2001, 05:33 AM	#17
Mole Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Thailand Posts: 26	It's just business. Most users will never use 100 Mbps. Maybe not even half, but a few will hit the limit. Same as all airlines and hotels overbook.

11-27-2001, 06:53 AM	#18
oscer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,834	Actually If you only Buy 100 megs you have to pay 3k a month And you cannot Use it for Strictly adult Traffic you need to Have At least Half of what you have outgoing Incoming ------------------ Stynk Adult Freehost FuckHost Freehosting Quik host Quality Affordable hosting ICQ 138476871

11-27-2001, 07:06 AM	#19
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	oscer ... just run a webspider of your box, that´ll do the trick! ------------------ Don't innovate - imitate!

11-27-2001, 10:39 AM	#20
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Fiber is cheeeeeeeeeep. Cogent has a shitload of fiber. You figure it out. We've had 5 dedicated boxes on a big fat Cogent pipe since August. Going on 4 months with zero Cogent downtime. Compared to our last provider, it's not only a bargain, it's a fucking miracle. ------------------ Make 60% recurring with these Babes! The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

11-27-2001, 10:49 AM	#21
Doctor Dre Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 51,692	I haven't read the rest of the thread but it's for local usage ... They put the lines at your place. Thoses aren't commercial lines ...

11-27-2001, 01:00 PM	#22
missnglnk Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New York, NY Posts: 131	First off, it's $1,000/month for business users, or what most people call 'eyes', you have to meet a specific traffic ratio to be billed at that rate, otherwise if you're wholesaling/hosting/whatever it's $3,000/month. Secondly, you have to be in a building lit by Cogent, they will not bring FastEthernet to your door no matter how much bandwidth you order from them, your building has to have 6 unique tenants interested in Cogent in order for them to CONSIDER lighting your building. I've heard too many people talk about getting Cogent, not understanding those 2 points, and then getting all pissy because they found out too late after they blabbed their mouth to hell and back, some even soothe theirselves by saying "Hey, they're going to go out of business anyway" no fingers pointed here though. You don't roll out POPs in West Bumblefuck to serve only one customer, too many people think doing that and 'taking a loss' is an acceptable way of business, but it's not, hence why some ISPs are in trouble currently. And as for the out of business part...I don't think Cogent is going under soon, after their merger with Allied Riser and buyout of Netrail, I don't think those are signs of a failing business.

11-27-2001, 01:22 PM	#23
On-top Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: IN Posts: 2,283	Oscer and missnglnk are correct. You have to have a facility lit by Cogent in order to make use of those deals. Also, they are not big enough to handle all one direction bandwidth (such as for use as solely a web host). They have requirements about incoming/outgoing bandwidth ratios. With those requirements, it's not a scalable solution right now. Special deals are only going to get you to the 200-300 Mb/s level with them, and most hosts you deal with are well above that amount in one way traffic. So many of your web hosts go with good carriers with long standing service and business models. Also, if you're hosting with them, that 100Mb/s is going to cost you $3000 + machines + colo fees + ??. Cogent does have a lot of cash, everyone has different experiences with their bandwidth, and no one is really confident in their business model. They lose a lot of money. If you want more info, let me know. ICQ: 15898919 OCTOBER 25, 2001: The service provider, which opened in August 1999, lost $28 million on revenues of a mere $90,000 during the first six months of this year. http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=9136