Does anyone here promote AFF via mainstream sites?

[uno]

I have a fairly large mainstream site and was thinking about promoting AFF on it. Are there nn/nonsexual ads available? How do you find your traffic converts? I obviously realize YMMV, but am looking for experiences.

[pradaboy]

I think you'd have better luck using friendfinder.com it's more nn dating profiles.

I have never tried AFF on mainstream tho, but you have a good chance of scaring visitors away

[uno]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

I think you'd have better luck using friendfinder.com it's more nn dating profiles.

I have never tried AFF on mainstream tho, but you have a good chance of scaring visitors away

Thats what I'm afraid of... Is friendfinder.com the same company? If not, spam me with a ref url.

[pradaboy]

Originally Posted by uno

Thats what I'm afraid of... Is friendfinder.com the same company? If not, spam me with a ref url.

it's from the same people as AFF but you need separate accounts for every program. Here's my ref url for FF

http://friendfinder.com/go/b72879

thanks for signing up

[uno]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

it's from the same people as AFF but you need separate accounts for every program. Here's my ref url for FF

http://friendfinder.com/go/b72879

thanks for signing up

Signing up now... I wonder why it is that they don't consolidate it all?

[pradaboy]

Originally Posted by uno

Signing up now... I wonder why it is that they don't consolidate it all?

yeh I'm wondering too... maybe it's because every site has its own target audience. Or maybe because they would have so many members it clogs up the system?

edit:
btw when you put up ads be sure to use the geo-targeted ones... they convert like hot cakes

advertize passion.com

[pradaboy]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

advertize passion.com

did you get good results with passion.com on mainstream traffic? I'm always afraid that any sexual reference can scare people away.

btw you have a damn sexeh sig

[javok]

So... anyone promoting AFF on a mainstream site?

[2HousePlague]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

advertize passion.com

This is certainly one approach. As many of you already know, Passion.com is a less racy version of AdultFriendFinder.com -- specifically developed to expand the reach of AFF beyond the bounds of adult traffic sources. Passion and AFF are the same site, same member DB, just different in packaging.

Take note, also, that both Passion.com and AFF allow the webmaster to control the level of adult content displayed -- both in the tour and inside the site.

We have MANY affiliates successfully promoting AFF and Passion from their non-adult sites.

For more information regarding marketing best practices and other recommendations for promoting our sites on mainstream sources, feel free to contact me or any member of the FriendFinder team.

j-(ack Mardack, GM)
ICQ: 222141571
jack @ friendfinderinc.com

trafficdoc @ friendfinderinc.com

[pradaboy]

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

This is certainly one approach. As many of you already know, Passion.com is a less racy version of AdultFriendFinder.com -- specifically developed to expand the reach of AFF beyond the bounds of adult traffic sources. Passion and AFF are the same site, same member DB, just different in packaging.

Take note, also, that both Passion.com and AFF allow the webmaster to control the level of adult content displayed -- both in the tour and inside the site.

We have MANY affiliates successfully promoting AFF and Passion from their non-adult sites.

For more information regarding marketing best practices and other recommendations for promoting our sites on mainstream sources, feel free to contact me or any member of the FriendFinder team.

j-(ack Mardack, GM)
ICQ: 222141571
jack @ friendfinderinc.com

trafficdoc @ friendfinderinc.com

Big J to the rescue!

[2HousePlague]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

Big J to the rescue!

:costumed- *


"Spiderman, Spiderman,
Does whatever a spider can
Spins a web, any size,
Catches thieves just like flies
Look Out!
Here comes the Spiderman.

Is he strong?
Listen bud,
He's got radioactive blood.
Can he swing from a thread
Take a look overhead
Hey, there
There goes the Spiderman.

In the chill of night
At the scene of a crime
Like a streak of light
He arrives just in time.

Spiderman, Spiderman
Friendly neighborhood Spiderman
Wealth and fame
He's ingnored
Action is his reward.

To him, life is a great big bang up
Whenever there's a hang up
You'll find the Spider man."


j-


*(1,000 Baybee!)

[uno]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

did you get good results with passion.com on mainstream traffic? I'm always afraid that any sexual reference can scare people away.

btw you have a damn sexeh sig

Ya, my site is definitely not something I want any sexual references on.

[uno]

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

This is certainly one approach. As many of you already know, Passion.com is a less racy version of AdultFriendFinder.com -- specifically developed to expand the reach of AFF beyond the bounds of adult traffic sources. Passion and AFF are the same site, same member DB, just different in packaging.

Take note, also, that both Passion.com and AFF allow the webmaster to control the level of adult content displayed -- both in the tour and inside the site.

We have MANY affiliates successfully promoting AFF and Passion from their non-adult sites.

For more information regarding marketing best practices and other recommendations for promoting our sites on mainstream sources, feel free to contact me or any member of the FriendFinder team.

j-(ack Mardack, GM)
ICQ: 222141571
jack @ friendfinderinc.com

trafficdoc @ friendfinderinc.com

I sent you an icq... Mine is 111914 if you didn't get it.

[NinjaSteve]

That's pretty sweet, I didn't realize Passion.com was the same company and everything.

[detoxed]

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

That's pretty sweet, I didn't realize Passion.com was the same company and everything.

heh visit the sites, its obvious

[Steen2]

I also didn't realise Passion.com was FF, nice break into big mainstream.

[2HousePlague]

Originally Posted by Steen2

I also didn't realise Passion.com was FF, nice break into big mainstream.

It suddenly struck me that -- MAYBE A LOT OF YOU don't know AdultFriendFinder.com owns a slightly-less-slutty little dress called Passion.com.

Call it an exercise in preemptive survivalism, combined with strategic chutzpah of the most mainstream kind.

Everybody knows AFF has done great things with adult, been an integral part of adult's growing-up since 1996, in fact. And, while we certainly enjoy all the adult traffic we get, we've taken some steps to protect the core of our business from some of adult's -- shall we call them -- vulnerabilities.

I've actually written an article for the February issue of XBIZ on just this very subject. But rather than impose my thoughts on all of you here, I'll do a favor for my wonderful XBIZ "editrix" and encourage you to buy a copy of the magazine instead. It's good, smart shit, fellas.

Anyways, Passion.com is nothing less than a wedge we built against the increasingly exclusionary pressures of the mainstream online world. It is the archetypical Wolf in Sheeps Clothing; it is the Trojan Horse we're sending into the newly protected enclave of nipple-free Super Bowls and 4 more Bushy years -- oh God. Cuz here at FriendFinder, we believe in revolutions from the INSIDE.

Passion.com is driving one of the naughtiest, most correct and most historically suppressed messages ever conceived by our species straight into the heart of the scary Neo-Puritanism that's got this country (and, by political and military effect, the whole world) in its grips today. And we mean to pack as many of you hairy porno-monkeys with us as we can.

So, hop on board, me laddies!

There's a shiny new ship, with a bold new course headed out to Sea -- and her name is PASSION.com.



j-

[pradaboy]

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

It suddenly struck me that -- MAYBE A LOT OF YOU don't know AdultFriendFinder.com owns a slightly-less-slutty little dress called Passion.com.

Call it an exercise in preemptive survivalism, combined with strategic chutzpah of the most mainstream kind.

Everybody knows AFF has done great things with adult, been an integral part of adult's growing-up since 1996, in fact. And, while we certainly enjoy all the adult traffic we get, we've taken some steps to protect the core of our business from some of adult's -- shall we call them -- vulnerabilities.

I've actually written an article for the February issue of XBIZ on just this very subject. But rather than impose my thoughts on all of you here, I'll do a favor for my wonderful XBIZ "editrix" and encourage you to buy a copy of the magazine instead. It's good, smart shit, fellas.

Anyways, Passion.com is nothing less than a wedge we built against the increasingly exclusionary pressures of the mainstream online world. It is the archetypical Wolf in Sheeps Clothing; it is the Trojan Horse we're sending into the newly protected enclave of nipple-free Super Bowls and 4 more Bushy years -- oh God. Cuz here at FriendFinder, we believe in revolutions from the INSIDE.

Passion.com is driving one of the naughtiest, most correct and most historically suppressed messages ever conceived by our species straight into the heart of the scary Neo-Puritanism that's got this country (and, by political and military effect, the whole world) in its grips today. And we mean to pack as many of you hairy porno-monkeys with us as we can.

So, hop on board, me laddies!

There's a shiny new ship, with a bold new course headed out to Sea -- and her name is PASSION.com.



j-

LOL!

Probably most people don't know that you guys run BigChurch.com as well, and a lot of other sites. FF = HUGE!

not only passion.com - but AFF also ownes and operates alt.com, the biggest alternative lifestyle/bdsm dating/community site. huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge site.

Originally Posted by pradaboy

did you get good results with passion.com on mainstream traffic? I'm always afraid that any sexual reference can scare people away.

btw you have a damn sexeh sig

thanks, your sig is quite sexy by itself

[2HousePlague]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

not only passion.com - but AFF also ownes and operates alt.com, the biggest alternative lifestyle/bdsm dating/community site. huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge site.

Don't eeeee-ven get me started -- ALT.com is destined to become AFF 2.0.

But that's a story for another thread.

Meanwhile, ALL senders of traffic to AFF should pop-under ALT.com. Effect = less than 5% cannibalization and net increase in affiliate commissions of about 15% -- no shit.

You can set this up quite easily in your stats area -- or just gimme a hollah.

j-

[Taboo]

Does AFF still own everything at Conru.com?

btw, i love this article:

Small Business - Swingers Go Legit? - FORTUNE SMALL BUSINESS
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/small...594931,00.html

Andrew Conru owns the largest personals business on the Net?and he's miserable about it. Of the 15 sites that make up his FriendFinder Network, the most popular by far is AdultFriendFinder ("The World's Largest Sex and Swingers Personals Site"), drawing seven million of Conru's 19 million users. Conru expects his sites to pull in about $100 million in 2004, but growth is maxing out. Because he can't advertise his hottest site on top-tier web pages, FriendFinder has relied on affiliate referrals, which aren't as effective. So Conru has gone legit, bulking up advertising for his less risque sites. His ads are sprouting in places like Hotmail.com, and he expects to spend $12 million on ads this year. But Conru's definition of respectability may be relative. One of his newest sites is Passion.com, which Conru describes as a "tamer" version of AdultFriendFinder. How much tamer? "It takes more clicks," he says, "to get to the nudity."

That's one of the article's that inspired me to buy Curious.com & Companionship.com



plus:

FriendFinder Launches YoungAtHeart.com to Offer Customized Online Dating Community for Baby Boomer Singles
http://itreview.belproject.com/?itemid=995

Over 89 million users have participated in the FriendFinder network since its inception in 1996, underscoring its unmatched leadership in the marketplace. The company has increased revenues in 27 of the past 28 quarters and over 65,000 new sign-ups occur daily. Other popular sites in the FriendFinder network include FriendFinder.com, AsiaFriendFinder.com, IndianFriendFinder.com, Amigos.com, Outpersonals.com, and BigChurch.com.

[Rui]

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

This is certainly one approach. As many of you already know, Passion.com is a less racy version of AdultFriendFinder.com -- specifically developed to expand the reach of AFF beyond the bounds of adult traffic sources. Passion and AFF are the same site, same member DB, just different in packaging.

Take note, also, that both Passion.com and AFF allow the webmaster to control the level of adult content displayed -- both in the tour and inside the site.

We have MANY affiliates successfully promoting AFF and Passion from their non-adult sites.

For more information regarding marketing best practices and other recommendations for promoting our sites on mainstream sources, feel free to contact me or any member of the FriendFinder team.

j-(ack Mardack, GM)
ICQ: 222141571
jack @ friendfinderinc.com

trafficdoc @ friendfinderinc.com

Do we need to signup for a different account in order to promote passion?

[2HousePlague]

Originally Posted by Rui

Do we need to signup for a different account in order to promote passion?

Nope. Not at all.

To promote Passion.com, simply swap out "adultfriendfinder.com" in your links (and this holds true for ALL link types: /go/, /search/, etc.) for "passion.com".


For example (assuming your PID is p123):


A. World's Largest SEX Personals Site

versus...

B. Sexy Personals for Passionate People


OR...


A. Meet Local Women Looking for Sex

versus...

B. Sexy Singles in Your Town




j-

[Twe Russ]

Geo targeting tool should do the trick for you.

[Rui]

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

Nope. Not at all.

snap

j-

Thanks alot for the fast answer