Bush Plan Calls for Bigger, More Powerful Government - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr.Fiction · 02-09-2005, 01:08 AM

President Bush's second-term agenda would expand not only the size of the federal government but also its influence over the lives of millions of Americans by imposing new national restrictions on high schools, court cases and marriages.

In a clear break from Republican campaigns of the 1990s to downsize government and devolve power to the states, Bush is fostering what amounts to an era of new federalism in which the national government shapes, not shrinks, programs and institutions to comport with various conservative ideals, according to Republicans inside and outside the White House.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2005Feb8.html

Next time a brainwashed Republican tells you they are for "less government", laugh in their face.

Bush is pushing more government, less freedom for all Americans.

bringer · 02-09-2005, 01:10 AM

your sig annoys me

The Sultan Of Smut · 02-09-2005, 01:16 AM

What's wrong with his sig?

BradM · 02-09-2005, 01:16 AM

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What's wrong with his sig?

/me sighs

bringer · 02-09-2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

What's wrong with his sig?

people who support the aclu are idiots

Mr.Fiction · 02-09-2005, 01:17 AM

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your sig annoys me

My free speech sig annoys you? Protect your business and your personal freedom - support organizations that fight for your right to be free.

bringer · 02-09-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

My free speech sig annoys you? Protect your business and your personal freedom - support organizations that fight for your right to be free.

i dont support an organization that supports child molesters and liberal idiots who compair 9/11 victims to nazi Adolf Eichmann.

Joe Citizen · 02-09-2005, 01:24 AM

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i dont support an organization that supports child molesters and liberal idiots who compair 9/11 victims to nazi Adolf Eichmann.

Civil liberties are bad, mmmmmkay?

titmowse · 02-09-2005, 01:26 AM

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people who support the aclu are idiots

Thanks for reminding me. I need to re-up my membership

bringer · 02-09-2005, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by titmowse

Thanks for reminding me. I need to re-up my membership

no problem

Robatolla · 02-09-2005, 01:27 AM

I'd have to say republicans stills scare me more!!!!!!!!!Why is everyone so quick to let go of there freedom.Promote FREEDOM

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-09-2005, 01:28 AM

I thought Republicans were about less government!

KMR Stitch · 02-09-2005, 01:29 AM

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I thought Republicans were about less government!

They are I think this thread is missleading

bringer · 02-09-2005, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Civil liberties are bad, mmmmmkay?

yeah, i totally agree

Mr.Fiction · 02-09-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

They are I think this thread is missleading

Don't fall for Republican lies.

The government has been expanding much faster under Bush than Clinton or any other recent Democrat.

Republicans claim they are for smaller government, but they really want a huge powerful government that controls everything you do.

Don't believe everything you see on Fox and CNN.

Robatolla · 02-09-2005, 01:33 AM

republicans are about power over US.Even if it means bigger govt.Or going into crazy big debt.Oh wait we're already in crazy FUCKING debt!

Robatolla · 02-09-2005, 01:35 AM

EVERYTHING BUSH does scares me.

MetaMan · 02-09-2005, 01:35 AM

To Many Imigrants

Ironhorse · 02-09-2005, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Next time a brainwashed Republican tells you they are for "less government", laugh in their face.

I'm not sure why anyone fell for this story from THIS dynasty.. Baaaahh comes to mind..

bringer · 02-09-2005, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Republicans claim they are for smaller government, but they really want a huge powerful government that controls everything you do.

as do democrats...

Joe Citizen · 02-09-2005, 01:41 AM

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To Many Imigrants

Learn how to spell.

Mr.Fiction · 02-09-2005, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer

i dont support an organization that supports child molesters and liberal idiots who compair 9/11 victims to nazi Adolf Eichmann.

You support free speech only for anyone you agree with, and for no one you disagree with. That's brilliant.

If your philosophy ruled the country, all pornographers would be in jail, including you!

KMR Stitch · 02-09-2005, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

Don't fall for Republican lies.

The government has been expanding much faster under Bush than Clinton or any other recent Democrat.

Republicans claim they are for smaller government, but they really want a huge powerful government that controls everything you do.

Don't believe everything you see on Fox and CNN.

You are a grade A dumbass.

Bush's new SS plan is a very good idea. SS is a failing concept. I rather play with my money. Then let the baby boomers fuck it all up now.

wargames · 02-09-2005, 01:47 AM

Oh man, not another Bush thread.

Robatolla · 02-09-2005, 01:48 AM

i work in a hotel in vegas and you wouldnt believe how many employees don't speak english.metaman is right.

Webby · 02-09-2005, 02:13 AM

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Bush Plan Calls for Bigger, More Powerful Government

Mmm.. lost track now of the changes of policy this Admin have had. There is a change every time the sun shines. What happened to smaller govt and less govt interference??

It's kinda like the way iBill is run. Rest assured the end result will be the same.

Mr.Fiction · 02-09-2005, 02:23 AM

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You are a grade A dumbass.

Bush's new SS plan is a very good idea. SS is a failing concept. I rather play with my money. Then let the baby boomers fuck it all up now.

Turn off the TV now, before it's too late.

DJChunkyB · 02-09-2005, 02:55 AM

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You support free speech only for anyone you agree with, and for no one you disagree with. That's brilliant.

If your philosophy ruled the country, all pornographers would be in jail, including you!

How brilliant of you to try and accuse someone of only being free speech if they agree with that persons views. It seems to me that your precious little ACLU has forgotten that the very 1st Amendment they champion actually starts with the Freedom of Religion. Funny how the ACLU will be the first to jump into the fight to take religion out of society, while also trying to be the vanguards in the fight for free speech. Talk about only supporting that which you agree with. Last time I heard one a Prayer in public is a form of free speech. A picture, statue, or monument dedicated to a historical person, point in time, quotes from a book, and, oh my, even pornography are all covered under the Freedom of Expression. Another liberty included under the protection of.... wait for it ... Yeah! The First Amendment of our nation?s Bill of Rights. Why is it then that the little minds of the ACLU only care about one of those three main principals that our country was founded upon? I must remind you after all the ?L? stands for Liberties not Liberal Ideology!

Ironhorse · 02-09-2005, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

You are a grade A dumbass.

Bush's new SS plan is a very good idea. SS is a failing concept. I rather play with my money. Then let the baby boomers fuck it all up now.

Grow up and get a clue, and stop posting about shit you know nothing about.. ughhhh

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-09-2005, 03:03 AM

How did Baby boomers fuck up social security?

More heads more bread its that easy. Oh I know...

Its another Republican "Thing" for spin doctoring.

titmowse · 02-09-2005, 03:08 AM

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How brilliant of you to try and accuse someone of only being free speech if they agree with that persons views. It seems to me that your precious little ACLU has forgotten that the very 1st Amendment they champion actually starts with the Freedom of Religion. Funny how the ACLU will be the first to jump into the fight to take religion out of society, while also trying to be the vanguards in the fight for free speech. Talk about only supporting that which you agree with. Last time I heard one a Prayer in public is a form of free speech. A picture, statue, or monument dedicated to a historical person, point in time, quotes from a book, and, oh my, even pornography are all covered under the Freedom of Expression. Another liberty included under the protection of.... wait for it ... Yeah! The First Amendment of our nation?s Bill of Rights. Why is it then that the little minds of the ACLU only care about one of those three main principals that our country was founded upon? I must remind you after all the ?L? stands for Liberties not Liberal Ideology!

so you're saying this country was founded on a religion? so we should all be puritans? won't the baptists be upset?

sacX · 02-09-2005, 04:23 AM

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Funny how the ACLU will be the first to jump into the fight to take religion out of society,

Example?

jazzll · 02-09-2005, 06:16 AM

- The average lifetime of a superpower is 200 years
- USA is the world's only superpower right now

Hate on Bush all you like for his policies and past actions, but if the Social Security is not sorted out, it WILL bring down the superpower.

Der Schleicher · 02-09-2005, 07:02 AM

does that mean eradicating the axis of evil?

Rui · 02-09-2005, 10:02 AM

Nobody can't say this wasn't expected...I'm suprised it actually took him this long

Mr.Fiction · 02-09-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJChunkyB

Funny how the ACLU will be the first to jump into the fight to take religion out of society,

You can do anything you want with religion in your private life. The ACLU fights to keep the separation between church and state, which Thomas Jefferson has said the First Amendment creates. That is one of the foundations of this country being defended by one of the founders of the country. Do you think Thomas Jefferson is anti-American too?

If there was no separation of church and state, free speech would probably not exist in America and you would probably be in jail.

sweetME · 02-09-2005, 02:32 PM

I wonder what's big and powerful mean to him.

DJChunkyB · 02-09-2005, 05:50 PM

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so you're saying this country was founded on a religion? so we should all be puritans? won't the baptists be upset?

I said nothing about our country being founded on a religion. I clearly stated that the three main principals our country was founded on were those protected in The First Amendment, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, and Freedom of Expression. I guess they don't teach reading comprehension in the liberal run schools any more. Too bad I always thought it was a valuable concept.

DJChunkyB · 02-09-2005, 06:21 PM

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Example?

First of all I need to point out that I am not affiliated with any church nor do I attend any churches on a regular basis. I simply am sick and tired of the incredible waste of time and money groups like the ACLU and many others waste with this fight. You wanted examples of how the ACLU is fighting to remove religion from society. The longest drawn out fight for one example alone is public prayer & school prayer. This has been an issue that the ACLU has been engaged in all out war against for decades using the umbrella of "Church & State" as their litmus test. First of all, Church & State was intended to prevent the establishment of a single religion imposed upon the people by the government that was all. Never in any of our founding fathers writings on the subject is there any mention of not allowing government to be involved in religious activities. To the contrary they consistently had direct links between religion and the daily functions of government. After all it is not the Webster?s Dictionary that you put your hand on before taking an oath.

The more recent example is that of having the Ten Commandments removed from all public buildings, parks, and even some flags and official seals of local government agencies. Now here again I am not necessarily taking the side of the whacko State Supreme Court Judge in Alabama or where ever that was but I do not see a need to have something that has been a part of the "laws of our land" removed from all public existence. The Ten Commandments were the basis of most of the original laws of society written into the constitution yet now 230+ years later we need to get rid of them. Why? Are the hurting your eyes? Do they make you feel guilty for coveting thy neighbor?s wife? I just don't understand why they are bad for society.

And I for one am in need of going to confession every single day because as long as there are sites like Vanilla's I am going to be coveting someone?s wife!

BRISK · 02-09-2005, 06:46 PM

All Hail the Iron Fist of Government!

You Will Be Assimilated!

Give up Your Futile Attempts at Freedom!

titmowse · 02-09-2005, 07:02 PM

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The more recent example is that of having the Ten Commandments removed from all public buildings, parks, and even some flags and official seals of local government agencies. Now here again I am not necessarily taking the side of the whacko State Supreme Court Judge in Alabama or where ever that was but I do not see a need to have something that has been a part of the "laws of our land" removed from all public existence. The Ten Commandments were the basis of most of the original laws of society written into the constitution yet now 230+ years later we need to get rid of them. Why? Are the hurting your eyes? Do they make you feel guilty for coveting thy neighbor?s wife? I just don't understand why they are bad for society.

Here are the ten commendments. take special note of the first three:

1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

3) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

5) Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

6) Thou shalt not kill.

7) Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8) Thou shalt not steal.

9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.

--Exodus: 20:03-20:17

Would you edit them? Jesus did:

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

--Matthew: 19:17-19:19

SuckOnThis · 02-09-2005, 07:12 PM

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I said nothing about our country being founded on a religion. I clearly stated that the three main principals our country was founded on were those protected in The First Amendment, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, and Freedom of Expression. I guess they don't teach reading comprehension in the liberal run schools any more. Too bad I always thought it was a valuable concept.

Where in that fucked up head of yours can you not comprehend the difference between freedom of religion and a religious government?

KMR Stitch · 02-09-2005, 07:51 PM

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Grow up and get a clue, and stop posting about shit you know nothing about.. ughhhh

I am sure you know everything right?

I highly doubt it.

Everyone Bashes bush.

Get over it stop crying.

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