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Old 02-06-2005, 02:04 PM   #1
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Do you have a $10 site??

If so how are you doing with it? I have heard from some sources that signups are 3 to 5 times normal 29.99 sites. What's the best way to do these type sites? I was thinking if it was a IE teen site let the member have access to like 25 movies and say 100 pic sets at one time. Every day rotate 1 new set in and 1 set out. Then maybe letting them add another niche $10 site for say $5 more a month. Anyone doing this ?
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:13 PM   #2
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I take it by the lack of response that guys who have $10 sites don't want anyone else making $10 sites.
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:23 PM   #4
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:26 PM   #5
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:27 PM   #6
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if you are only doing 3x that of a $29 site, why bother? same money either way

but if you can get to 5x i guess it would be worth it
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:27 PM   #7
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i guess it would be an easier site to set up with limited amounts of content and all
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:32 PM   #9
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If so how are you doing with it? I have heard from some sources that signups are 3 to 5 times normal 29.99 sites. What's the best way to do these type sites? I was thinking if it was a IE teen site let the member have access to like 25 movies and say 100 pic sets at one time. Every day rotate 1 new set in and 1 set out. Then maybe letting them add another niche $10 site for say $5 more a month. Anyone doing this ?
Most of your sites have way more pics. you have short video clips. So it's 10 bucks for some short videos (10-15 min). You'd have to buy the content and that makes it hard on $10 IMO. Think the sweet spot is $14.95.

I think pay per view will beat out the $10 buck sites???
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:35 PM   #10
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$$ would have to be on the upsell. That doesn't seem to fit your way of doing things.
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Old 02-06-2005, 03:38 PM   #11
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Turning into a sig whore here. Remembered that adult.com did $10 sites. Not sure they did well with it???. Then there is the 6 buck sites from PussyCash.


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Old 02-06-2005, 03:53 PM   #12
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Old 02-06-2005, 05:27 PM   #13
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my boy runs a big 10 dollar network.

check it out. he does pretty good with it.

www.995sex.com
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Old 02-06-2005, 05:32 PM   #14
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I dont know about the 10 dollar sites but I'll be needing some more traffic soon.
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Old 02-06-2005, 05:41 PM   #15
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if you are only doing 3x that of a $29 site, why bother? same money either way

but if you can get to 5x i guess it would be worth it

Because if I get 100 sign ups on my $30 site but 300 on my $10 site then I have 3 times the number of transactions and a lower price point. This combination helps to lower the chargeback percentages.

Fewer charge backs on 10 bucks. In fact...From personal experience I can tell you that most credit card companies will simply write off anything under 10 bucks because it costs them more in processing to charge it back.

You didn't see anybody pushing these $10 sites prior to the Visa chargeback issues.
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Old 02-06-2005, 05:58 PM   #16
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yep could do well if you can incentivise peopel to push it of (lol) get the traffic

But on a pure selling point why not
a guy falls for a girl on a tour and buys or wants quick release on that niche they you get them - just a case of minimising their activity and pushing for upsells
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Old 02-06-2005, 06:06 PM   #17
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yep could do well if you can incentivise peopel to push it of (lol) get the traffic

But on a pure selling point why not
a guy falls for a girl on a tour and buys or wants quick release on that niche they you get them - just a case of minimising their activity and pushing for upsells


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Old 02-06-2005, 06:13 PM   #18
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Because if I get 100 sign ups on my $30 site but 300 on my $10 site then I have 3 times the number of transactions and a lower price point. This combination helps to lower the chargeback percentages.

Fewer charge backs on 10 bucks. In fact...From personal experience I can tell you that most credit card companies will simply write off anything under 10 bucks because it costs them more in processing to charge it back.

You didn't see anybody pushing these $10 sites prior to the Visa chargeback issues.

How can you afford enough content on $10? Many free sites would have ya beat. Guess it would have to be in the upsells.
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Old 02-06-2005, 07:20 PM   #20
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How can you afford enough content on $10? Many free sites would have ya beat. Guess it would have to be in the upsells.

The point of a $10 site is not to make a profit but to balance out your chargeback percentages and offer upsell, cross sell, and pop ups as potential money makers.

It's kinda like when a grocery story runs an ad for salsa which is priced around their cost. It gets people in the door but sure as hell does not generate any profit.

$10 sites are simply a marketing and anti-shargeback tool. If you haven't figured that out yet then you probably should not be looking into setting one up.

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Old 02-06-2005, 07:27 PM   #21
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This stuff may fit into that $10 catgeory -

http://www.payasyouclick.com/adult/

I'd still be aiming to do upsells on these site tho!
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:04 AM   #22
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Interesting thread, specialy AaronM's replys.
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:12 AM   #23
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Yes we just started one called www.giselleyum.com

what kind of traffic do you suggest we get to push it ?
do you have some of this type of traffic available?
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:15 AM   #24
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my boy runs a big 10 dollar network.

check it out. he does pretty good with it.

www.995sex.com
Yeah I saw this guys sites before. I was wandering if he does good on them. Is he making his money off the 9.95$ or is he heavy on the upsells inside?
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The point of a $10 site is not to make a profit but to balance out your chargeback percentages and offer upsell, cross sell, and pop ups as potential money makers.

It's kinda like when a grocery story runs an ad for salsa which is priced around their cost. It gets people in the door but sure as hell does not generate any profit.

$10 sites are simply a marketing and anti-shargeback tool. If you haven't figured that out yet then you probably should not be looking into setting one up.

hmmm... very interesting. I wonder if owners of the $10 networks feel the same way...

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I tried promoting them. I sent over 1/2 a million hits and no signups. Something is wrong with their linking codes or something.
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hmmm... very interesting. I wonder if owners of the $10 networks feel the same way...

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I take it that you are assuming that I am not one of those people.
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Old 02-07-2005, 12:52 PM   #28
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I run medium upsells, to be honest I have invested a huge amount of money in getting traffic from the SE's through a variety of manners.

It is all paying off and each month gets better, I am working on finishing the NATS installation up and then I will be able to give webmasters tours at 29.95 if they want with 2.95 tours. Or pretty much do whatever they need to make the sale, I have full time graphics on board and TGP creators so anything can be done.

I would much rather just pay a flat $10 for each signup to get more webmasters on board but I am working with a pretty incredible team from Europe and we are doing some great traffic and optimisation techniques, therefore I have the webmaster program setup at www.995pays.com but I have not focused on it yet. Once NATS is up and running I will get everyone on. Our site work great as exit consoles too for those who want the bigger payouts from pps and TGP guys are doing well with it too.

The goal for the NATS lauch is March 15, they have done everything on there end I just need to load everything up on my end and it is off and running.

As for content, I update twice a week with pics and video of a fresh new girl and the members like it, the join, they stay.

Any other questions?

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gavin at adult-ventures.com lets see what happened there.

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hmmm... very interesting. I wonder if owners of the $10 networks feel the same way...

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I actually started the $10 idea about 6 years ago, and the idea is sheer volume of joins and recurring revenue.

I only started to execute it last year and I am far from perfecting it, but the model I am working with is providing high quality porn at a low monthly price.

I totally understand why webmasters are not jumping all over it since the payout is nothing great, I understand that so I am really focused on self generated traffic and working with large traffic networks and paying them for the traffic and not for the joins.

BUT, then I started noticing NATS after JR showed me them, then we installed it on Boobdollars and I really started looking at it. I spoke with John and Boris and they were great, they basically bent over backwards to help me out and have baby sat me a few time already so I am excited to launch V2 with Nats mid march and really get into the webmaster market too.

With my own traffic I make a nice chunk of change since it is all profit, Candid has taken great care of me with hosting and for that factor my costs are pretty low.

I am getting more into upsells though, but that to me is the gravy money.
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I could never afford a $10 signup site (at my bandwidth costs). Tried it years ago and there was not much of a difference in overall gross sales, but definitely an increased hassle factor with 3 times as many members to support for the same financial bang.

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If you have to do that to lower your cb ratio then
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Yes we just started one called www.giselleyum.com

what kind of traffic do you suggest we get to push it ?
do you have some of this type of traffic available?
Well I would buy gallery traffic to galleries that promote the site. I have found this is always more efective than buying to the site directly.

Now, take no offense by my question, I am really curious why if your site is $10 to join why do you not advertise this fact on the tour like 995pays does? It seems this is a strong selling point so why not use this? I looked thru your site and only see the 9.99 when I get to the join page. If a surfer clicks to the join page without first seeing the prices, I would think he would pay 20 a month just as easily as 10 a month. Again take no offense, I am just trying to find out how you are using the $10 a month deal to entice surfers to join.
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