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The US is one of the countries that signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. It is one of 5 countries that is permitted to have nukes because they already had nukes at the time the treaty was signed. All the other countries that signed didn't have nukes then, and they agreed not to build nukes (as long as they're a member of the treaty).

It isn't just America telling other countries who can and can't have nukes. These countries agreed to not have nukes themselves. Right now, diplomats from various European countries are in talks with Iran concerning its nuclear ambitions. Unfortunately, most reports suggest that Iran is too proud to give up its dreams of becoming a nuclear power.

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Pleasurepays

all fanatical theocracies who think its their duty to die and take all "non-believers" with them.. should have nuclear weapons.

its only common sense.

FunForOne

Thats funny. My six-year-old understands world politics better than you.

Tony Montana

Why can Iran not have nukes? We have them dont' we? What the hell is the problem?

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FunForOne

Democrats and rappers and have been praying for peace in the middle east for a long time.

God Sent them a president that is more than just talk.


Bringng peace to the world is like a surgery.
Would you tell your brain surgeon that he has to remove that tumor without cutting into your head?


Once again, democrats are on the wrong side of history.


Since 1976, I cant think of many accomplishments from the democratic party.

1) Dont ask Dont tell allows gays to stay in the military (Clinton)
2) Welfare reform (Clinton) Acutally a conserative Issue
3) Interns not allowed to wear thongs in whitehouse (Hillary Clinton)



Just last year, the democrats were trying to tell the world that the people of Iraq didn't want to be free. They weren't going to show up and vote!!!!

Tony Montana

You are brain washed.

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FunForOne

the world trusts the US not to land some nukes on Israel because we believe our god told us to kill the jews

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Rui

Sure they have Bush will just say that the "liberation job in Iraq is done and was a sucess" and talk about how much better iraquis are now and move the troops to Iran...pfff

Pleasurepays

the core problem is usually people like you, who cannot stop themselves from making retarded and simplistic remarks like yours.

FunForOne

John Kerry told us the Iraq is not better off no matter how many mass graves are empty.

crockett

I could support what we are doing in the middle east, if it was being done for human rights reasons. I don't think any people should have to live under an oppressive govt of non elected officials.

I mean some of these countries over there do some pretty fucked up shit, chopping of people heads, hands and so on.. Stoning people to death, I mean that shit rivals what was going on in mid evil Europe. So I can totally support regime change if it done to protect the people and to give them freedom, but the people have to want the change.

What we are currently doing in the middle east has nothing to do with people, freedom and human rights, but only about money and power. What is happening in Iraq is nothing short of plans to keep the US as the main world super power.

The one who controls oil, controls the world. As it sits oil can only be sold in US dollars, which means all countries have to use the US dollar to buy oil. This keeps the US dollar as the defacto currency world wide. Iraq was attempting to sell oil in Euros which would have opened the door for other countries to use the Euro instead of the Dollar. Which would have slowly caused the US dollar to lose power world wide.

Notice the first thing that happened when we took over Iraq, was to change Iraqi oil sales back to US dollars.

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Abyss_Vee

bush is a moron.. end of story

Johny Traffic

dude when they start draughting people of my age, we are all fucked trust me

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FunForOne

If the future citizens of Iraq are able to live free and dream of growing to propser with the aid of their countries own resources, they will be less likely to grow up and become a suicide bomber and knock down more of the buildings on US soil.

The democrats scream about the President not having a plan. Well he has said this over and over. A free world, is the plan to fight terror.

FunForOne

When you compare President Bush, Ted Kennedy, and Nancy Pelosi and you believe that Presdient Bush is the moron, you are getting the wrong information somewhere.

Der Schleicher

I don't think so.

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crockett

umm How many Iraqi suicide bombers did you ever hear about before we took over Iraq? Iraq was one of the more progressive countries in the middle east. Iraq had a very large amount of college educated people and women had fairly decent rights compared to their neighbors. Iraq's only down fall was Saddam.

Iraq also printed most of the books used throughout the middle east.. We aren't talking about mud hut dwelling people here. Iraq pre DS 91 had a fairly decant info structure.

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axelcat

oh no not again

FunForOne

I thought the democrats are being forced to discontinue the arguement that Iraq was a great place and they didn't want freedom.



If democrats had been in office since Jimmy Carter was presdient. Better yet, If John Kerry's senate votes had become reality, the soveit union would be the only world superpower and Iraq would own Kuwait and Saudia Arabia and probably Israel by now. Millions upon millions would be dead and the corrupt UN would be profiting from the whole thing.

Those would be some good text books.

Manga1

Very true. The draft age can be as high as 45. I know this is a fact in some other NATO countries.

directfiesta

Amazing how many idiocies can fit in so few lines .....

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FunForOne

as opposed to just your one line?

crockett

Right... Iraq was almost broke when it attacked Kuwait, because of it's war with Iran. Iraq attacked Kuwait in hopes to gain it's oil and money.

You seem to forget about a big section of the "history books". Your beloved republians whom were in power at the time, Ronnald Regan and George Bush Sr. Both supported and gave Saddam his WMD. Their thoughts were saddam was against Iran so he must be good for us. Your beloved Republians caused the problem we are dealing with today.

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spamofon

fucking nazis

FunForOne

Thats a good thing?

David!

Why would a country with enough oil to power its economy for the next 500 hundred years, want an alternative source of power?

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Johny Traffic

Name a country in NATO that currently drafts 45 year olds

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Not only is it true that Iran is surrounded, with US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, but invading Iran would also contribute to the long term strategy of containing Russia. An invasion of Iran would give the US access to the Caspian Sea. Not only is there oil in the Caspian Sea, but it also gives naval access to Russia. So, the US (NATO) would now have access to Russia from both the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea.

Everything that has been done since the 80's and the fall of the Berlin Wall has been part of this long term strategy. The civil war in Yugoslavia and the subsequent NATO attack, not only broke up a former Warsaw Pact military power, but it also gave countries like Bulgaria and Romania the courage to stand up to Russia and apply for NATO and EU membership. All this further weakened Russia and gave greater access to the Black Sea for NATO.

Will the US attack Iran? Yes, it is only a matter of time. Is it better to attack before Iran has nukes? Obviously yes. What is the only hope Iran has to avoid an invasion? Develop nukes. Will the US allow Iran to develop nukes? No, but even if they do, Israel won't, so either way war is innevitable.

crockett

I never said it was a good thing, I'm just telling you the reasons it happened. Apparently at the time our govt felt it was a good thing, because we publicly stated we would not stop Iraq from attacking Kuwait. Then once he did we then attacked Iraq.

Go back and read your history, Condoleezza Rice our new US Secretary of State whom was then the US National Security Adviser very publicly stated that we would not interfere if Iraq attacked Kuwait.

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Manga1

I should have said 44. In Greece the cutoff for the draft is 45. So if you're under 45 you have to serve.

nico-t

another word for "we want world power, you all cant have it"

Johny Traffic

Man thats not cool. Well looks like you oldies will be going to fight too. Good luck with it and let us know how you get on.

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Well, they did agree to it.

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Lev

interesting way of putting this, nice job

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FunForOne

I give up. No need to argue with a moving target. Democrats are on the way out. They are losing their hold on the south because of old age. It took a fake documentary, fake emails and the largestest celebrity sponsored hate ads to make them respectable in the last election where they had more democrats registered to vote than anyone else.

They have registered millions of young people only to allienate them by misguided views and embarassing election results.

Each election from now on will have fewer democrats involved until they dissapear completely. It makes about as much sense now to talk politics with a democrat as it does to vote on who the man of the house is with my pet snake. It was inevitable, democrat leadership has taken them to the losing side of every issue in the last 30 years. Many democrat politicians realizing this are changing to republicans or trying to convince the country that they are actually conservatives. (hillary).

Bottom Line, The US is the superpower. It is unfortunately our job to perform surgery on the places in the world that are infected. We cant afford to wait for corrupt countries and democrats to pray for solutions.
Get used to it, things are changing.

LA Mike

hahahahahah

alexg

another idiot... i just can't believe people can be so stupid

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What if one of the United States enemies provides Iran with nuclear weapons so that they can defend themselves against attack ? Where does that leave the US if that scenario happens

alexg

are you 10 years old?

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FunForOne

That is the worst case scenerio and the reason for the urgency of our involvment in the middle east.

The worlds intelligence believed that Sadam was in one of those stages as either the reciever or the giver. We picked out the best way to find out.

trollhunter

I received a letter from my nephew Cameron last week that has left me quite disturbed and worried about the future of our country. I asked his permission to reprint his unedited letter for all to read. He simply replied to me, ?I don?t care.? Why would an 18 year-old kid living in the United States of America feel so hopeless about the future of his generation? I?m not sure ? but I do have my suspicions. Here is the letter:


Dear Uncle Hayden,

You asked me recently how my first year of college was going. I wish I had a better answer for you than what you?re about to read. What I've learned this year:

Imagine being 18 and driving around on a Friday night with the coolest kids from school. Your thinking "this is the greatest" when suddenly one of them hops out at a stoplight and beats a stranger to death with a bat. Then you think, ?Holy Christ these are the bad guys. And now I'm here with them in the car, and when they go down, I'm going down.?

Well, that's what I learned this summer. I learned that by and large, my fellow Americans are poorly educated, quick to hate and ready to swallow anything that's handed them. In short I learned something I had long suspected but couldn't possibly believe to be true:

We, the American people, are the bad guys.

Whatever terrible future Bush and his cronies see fit to deliver unto us for the sake of their own profit, we entirely deserve. No countries will cry for us when the next 911 happens. Instead, they will recoil quietly in satisfied horror waiting to see which country Bush goes to war with over it.

I?m not even scared. Like I say, I was in the car with you all. I have it coming too.

But I will say this: when the fire starts rising in the sky, the lights go out, the sirens start blaring through smoke, in that last failing minute while we are trying to deny what is happening, let those who voted for Bush know what they've done.

Who needs Grandchildren anyway?

Sincerely,

Cameron

Again I ask you ? Why would a young man feel so lost and hopeless? Of course I know the answer, but does the American public know the answer? Based on the results of the November election it?s clear that we are a nation of scared people. Why are we letting George Bush and his friends scare us to death? It?s all because of greed. George Bush and all his oil buddies are too busy trying to divide up the spoils of war to realize that they have placed our nation on a dangerous path. George Bush has mortgaged our children?s future for his own financial gain. I say that we as a nation must hang our heads in shame and ask the brave and beautiful people of the world to forgive us for the aggressive and hurtful actions of our elected leaders. Or is it too late? For Cameron?s sake and the fate of an entire generation I say let?s hope not.

12clicks

nah, the embarrassing thing is you pretending to be in the same business as me.
*thats* the embarrassing thing for Americans.

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leave the 'hunter' out when you read his username

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12clicks

me too, poor parenting. your sister or brother failed in their prime duty.
enjoy watching this loser grow up.
From the above post, you deserve it.

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He's not a loser - he's a good kid.

He's in school and doing quite well.

nico-t

if they didnt they were probably already invaded..... the US is just a big bully!
lol... but i still love seeing dollars coming in tho... but thats getting more fucked up cuz of that cheap ass dollar!

Manga1

Entirely possible. I don't think it would be in Russia's interests to give Iran nukes, however. Those nukes could just as easily be a threat to Russia in the future. I believe all parties involved want to keep the Middle East conventional, with the exception of Israel.

There is also another problem with all this. If Russia allied itself with Iran and gave them nukes, that would give the US an excuse to put nukes back into Turkey, and possibly Iraq as well. This scenario is more of a threat to Russia than it is to the US since the nukes are on Russia's doorstep. The US used to have nukes in Turkey but removed them as part of a back room deal during the Cuban missile crisis. So I doubt Russia would do something like this.

rambler

Don't mind 12clicks, he thinks if he childishly insults somebody and then posts a -> ; he somehow "owns" people.

I believe he has some sort of mental disorder( not that there is anything wrong with that; I'm sure his mommy still loves him ).