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KMR Stitch · 02-01-2005, 11:40 PM

I am just wondering why people signup to a program and never try it out?

Out of 10 Webmasters I refer in my Sig I am lucky if 1 will send more then 100 hits!!

I am looking to cut some deals with dating gold and lower the Quota you need to get the high payouts.

4tits will be glad to adjust your pay err 4pic ;-)

If you got traffic let me know. Dating Gold has everything setup all you need is to Just send traffic!! I don't care if you have 1000 people on your AIM buddy list hell throw up a link in your buddyprofile or on your Blog. Dating Sites convert. You don't have to try and tweak it!!

See Sig Contact me via ICQ for questions.

MrJackMeHoff · 02-02-2005, 12:23 AM

They sign up and see how much it sucks and leave thats usually how it goes.

bringer · 02-02-2005, 12:24 AM

because we have to signup to get access to the webmaster area which usually sucks

KMR Stitch · 02-02-2005, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

They sign up and see how much it sucks and leave thats usually how it goes.

How do you figure it sucks?

the CV ratio for emails?
Rebills?
Signups?

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one

bringer · 02-02-2005, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

How do you figure it sucks?

the CV ratio for emails?
Rebills?
Signups?

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one

i wasnt speaking about the sponser in your sig but more in general
content shortages
1 zip for 200 webmasters every other week is trash
2 banners per site, copied but one has flashing "PORN" and one is a jpg
overkill on the fhgs
dont worry about signup/rebills when i dont get anything to work with

BradM · 02-02-2005, 12:35 AM

90-95% inactive. That's the way webmasters work dude... don't be offended or think it's an oddity. The real good programs could have 20% actives if they worked their balls off and had like 20 affiliate reps.

KMR Stitch · 02-02-2005, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

90-95% inactive. That's the way webmasters work dude... don't be offended or think it's an oddity. The real good programs could have 20% actives if they worked their balls off and had like 20 affiliate reps.

Yeah I am still looking for that 1-2 webmasters that will make me rich.

Oh and I will be sending them gifts!!! =-)

vivency-AdamQ · 02-02-2005, 01:11 AM

you're right, there is a lot of money to be made online, especially in porn, but it takes a lot of work. very little of it is get rich quick, and i think that is a mistake many people do.

will76 · 02-02-2005, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

I am just wondering why people signup to a program and never try it out?

Out of 10 Webmasters I refer in my Sig I am lucky if 1 will send more then 100 hits!!

I am looking to cut some deals with dating gold and lower the Quota you need to get the high payouts.

4tits will be glad to adjust your pay err 4pic ;-)

If you got traffic let me know. Dating Gold has everything setup all you need is to Just send traffic!! I don't care if you have 1000 people on your AIM buddy list hell throw up a link in your buddyprofile or on your Blog. Dating Sites convert. You don't have to try and tweak it!!

See Sig Contact me via ICQ for questions.

I know what you mean. I try to help the people that signup under me and you still will only get at best 1 out of 10 that actually try it once they signup. Hell half the people who signup don't even take the time to contact me!

I think the problem is that a lot of people bounce around because affiliates look good and they never settle down to actually do the work. If you signup through me, please contact me so I can help you. I've been with clickcash for 4+ years and can help you make bank, but you actually have to put a little effort into it.

Hey KMR, you ever try clickcash ?

lux_interior · 02-02-2005, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one

...and they all stink!

Lux

will76 · 02-02-2005, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

90-95% inactive. That's the way webmasters work dude... don't be offended or think it's an oddity. The real good programs could have 20% actives if they worked their balls off and had like 20 affiliate reps.

That's basically what I am trying to do. I am not a rep, but for all pratical purposes I fill the role. However, unlike a rep that makes $8an hour I actually know what the shit I am talking about and have experience doing this.

I would rather be spending 40 hours a week helping people instead of 80+ hours a week busting my ass, which is what I am doing now. So I created teamclickash.com My goal is to over time replace my existing income with money generated from downline sales. basically...

I'll be sending out lot of gifs to those that help me accomplish this

SpaceAce · 02-02-2005, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Hey KMR, you ever try clickcash ?

I ran iFriends next to Dating Gold and iFriends cleaned up for me while all I produced with Dating Gold was free signups that never converted. Like the title of the thread says, it's easy to make money and I tend to go with whatever makes the most money the easiest. iFriends worked well for me so they kept getting my traffic.

SpaceAce

will76 · 02-02-2005, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceAce

I ran iFriends next to Dating Gold and iFriends cleaned up for me while all I produced with Dating Gold was free signups that never converted. Like the title of the thread says, it's easy to make money and I tend to go with whatever makes the most money the easiest. iFriends worked well for me so they kept getting my traffic.

SpaceAce

YEAH YOU RIGHT!!!

THAT'S BEEN MY RESULTS WITH IFRIENDS VS. ANY OTHER COMPANY!

who · 02-02-2005, 06:15 AM

iFriends always starts really well but drops off for me. If I get a new account, I see a lot of registrations, but after about three months they drop off quite dramatically, and I mean with same traffic, same sites, nothing changing. I suspect they don't like their webmasters, but they do earn you some big $$$. Even though I'm promoting camsense now (see sig).

bigdog · 02-02-2005, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .?.

iFriends always starts really well but drops off for me. If I get a new account, I see a lot of registrations, but after about three months they drop off quite dramatically, and I mean with same traffic, same sites, nothing changing. I suspect they don't like their webmasters, but they do earn you some big $$$. Even though I'm promoting camsense now (see sig).

i have seen that with a couple sponsors in the past

Devilporn · 02-02-2005, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

That's basically what I am trying to do. I am not a rep, but for all pratical purposes I fill the role. However, unlike a rep that makes $8an hour I actually know what the shit I am talking about and have experience doing this.

I would rather be spending 40 hours a week helping people instead of 80+ hours a week busting my ass, which is what I am doing now. So I created teamclickash.com My goal is to over time replace my existing income with money generated from downline sales. basically...

I'll be sending out lot of gifs to those that help me accomplish this

Hey....I went to your website and was interested by what I saw.....only problem....I already have a Clickcash account and I'm not sure they would appreciate if I opened a new account using your referral since they give a 50$ signup bonus.

jayeff · 02-02-2005, 07:04 AM

Marketing is still very primitive in this business: we rely almost entirely on tits and ass to sell for us and make very little effort to identify or cater for the more subtle buttons we could be pressing. But if we perform poorly in getting the most out of surfers, we handle affiliates much worse. By and large they are not even recognized as customers.

The reason is that most sponsors are not really interested in small traffic sources. Some may say otherwise, but the reality is that this business is littered with preferential rates for the most successful affiliates and incentives beyond the reach of Joe Average. The "ordinary" affiliate is basically offered some tired banners and overexposed galleries and left to get on with it. This certainly makes for an easy life for the sponsors and those with a high enough profile succeed in spite of it. But if only because of the sheer number of small fry, there are a lot of sponsors who could benefit from a more positive attitude towards them.

If all of that is too abstract, sponsors who don't want lots of inactive signups could simply place their program details, promo materials, etc, out in the open instead of on the other side of a signup form...

KMR Stitch · 02-03-2005, 10:10 AM

bump ....

Rui · 02-03-2005, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

Yeah I am still looking for that 1-2 webmasters that will make me rich.

Oh and I will be sending them gifts!!! =-)

Eh

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btw please share more details about possible payout changes

KMR Stitch · 02-03-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Eh

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btw please share more details about possible payout changes

Sure what do you need to know?

Got traffic?

If you can send me 20+ emails a day you won't be making 1.00 per email I can get you 2.00 per email easy Perhaps even 3.00 per email depending on how you are doing.

If you can get me 100+ emails per day I can get you 3.50 per email
200+ emails per day and you get 4.00 PER EMAIL

Sign up in sig =-)

Rui · 02-03-2005, 10:32 AM

Interesting but still have a big ass list of sponsors on my queue-list of "sponsors to test/use", will keep in mind your offer tho.

crockett · 02-03-2005, 10:58 AM

If it's so easy then why am I not making any money on all the free joins I send you guys? If you guys are going to pay for e-mails, you sould at least pay $1 for free joins. After all you get an e-mail with the free join and don't pay anything for it, doesn't seem right IMO. It's not my fault if you guys can't convert them once I give them to you.

KMR Stitch · 02-03-2005, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

If it's so easy then why am I not making any money on all the free joins I send you guys? If you guys are going to pay for e-mails, you sould at least pay $1 for free joins. After all you get an e-mail with the free join and don't pay anything for it, doesn't seem right IMO. It's not my fault if you guys can't convert them once I give them to you.

Are you talking about free joins => paid signups?

crockett · 02-03-2005, 11:11 AM

yea I've sent about 70 of them with ratios in the 1:30 range, since the end of last year and made a whopping $49.95 not even enough for a pay out.

**edit end of last year mean the last few months of last year to current date.

SpaceAce · 02-03-2005, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

yea I've sent about 70 of them with ratios in the 1:30 range, since the end of last year and made a whopping $49.95 not even enough for a pay out.

**edit end of last year mean the last few months of last year to current date.

You mean 1 paid membership per 30 free, right?

SpaceAce

Rui · 02-04-2005, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

yea I've sent about 70 of them with ratios in the 1:30 range, since the end of last year and made a whopping $49.95 not even enough for a pay out.

**edit end of last year mean the last few months of last year to current date.

And how do you do with other dating sponsors?

02-01-2005, 11:40 PM	#1
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	What is the deal with you slackers!! It's so easy to make money. I am just wondering why people signup to a program and never try it out? Out of 10 Webmasters I refer in my Sig I am lucky if 1 will send more then 100 hits!! I am looking to cut some deals with dating gold and lower the Quota you need to get the high payouts. 4tits will be glad to adjust your pay err 4pic ;-) If you got traffic let me know. Dating Gold has everything setup all you need is to Just send traffic!! I don't care if you have 1000 people on your AIM buddy list hell throw up a link in your buddyprofile or on your Blog. Dating Sites convert. You don't have to try and tweak it!! See Sig Contact me via ICQ for questions.

02-02-2005, 12:23 AM	#2
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02-02-2005, 12:24 AM	#3
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02-03-2005, 10:58 AM	#22
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	If it's so easy then why am I not making any money on all the free joins I send you guys? If you guys are going to pay for e-mails, you sould at least pay $1 for free joins. After all you get an e-mail with the free join and don't pay anything for it, doesn't seem right IMO. It's not my fault if you guys can't convert them once I give them to you. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

02-03-2005, 11:11 AM	#24
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	yea I've sent about 70 of them with ratios in the 1:30 range, since the end of last year and made a whopping $49.95 not even enough for a pay out. edit end of last year mean the last few months of last year to current date. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.** Last edited by crockett; 02-03-2005 at 11:12 AM..

02-02-2005, 12:35 AM	#6
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	90-95% inactive. That's the way webmasters work dude... don't be offended or think it's an oddity. The real good programs could have 20% actives if they worked their balls off and had like 20 affiliate reps.

02-02-2005, 01:11 AM	#8
vivency-AdamQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 462	you're right, there is a lot of money to be made online, especially in porn, but it takes a lot of work. very little of it is get rich quick, and i think that is a mistake many people do.

02-02-2005, 06:15 AM	#14
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	iFriends always starts really well but drops off for me. If I get a new account, I see a lot of registrations, but after about three months they drop off quite dramatically, and I mean with same traffic, same sites, nothing changing. I suspect they don't like their webmasters, but they do earn you some big $$$. Even though I'm promoting camsense now (see sig).

02-02-2005, 07:04 AM	#17
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Marketing is still very primitive in this business: we rely almost entirely on tits and ass to sell for us and make very little effort to identify or cater for the more subtle buttons we could be pressing. But if we perform poorly in getting the most out of surfers, we handle affiliates much worse. By and large they are not even recognized as customers. The reason is that most sponsors are not really interested in small traffic sources. Some may say otherwise, but the reality is that this business is littered with preferential rates for the most successful affiliates and incentives beyond the reach of Joe Average. The "ordinary" affiliate is basically offered some tired banners and overexposed galleries and left to get on with it. This certainly makes for an easy life for the sponsors and those with a high enough profile succeed in spite of it. But if only because of the sheer number of small fry, there are a lot of sponsors who could benefit from a more positive attitude towards them. If all of that is too abstract, sponsors who don't want lots of inactive signups could simply place their program details, promo materials, etc, out in the open instead of on the other side of a signup form...

02-03-2005, 10:10 AM	#18
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	bump ....

02-03-2005, 10:32 AM	#21
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Interesting but still have a big ass list of sponsors on my queue-list of "sponsors to test/use", will keep in mind your offer tho.