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hjnet · 02-02-2005, 01:56 AM

Damn, I just got my monthly statement and I've seen that someone made 10-20 transactions for ~$2000 with my creditcard.
Did anyone had such a problem before? Any idea how they got my info?

My first thought was that my paypal account might got hacked, and I also got hit by some trojans, adware and spyware last month?

vivency-AdamQ · 02-02-2005, 01:57 AM

call credit card company ASAP

DutchTeenCash · 02-02-2005, 02:06 AM

call the company have it blocked fill out a fraud form asap today now this very second

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 02:55 AM

I've just requested 19 chargebacks at my bank and got my old CC locked, so I guess that's everything I can do to get my money back.

But I'd like to know how they got the info, I got infected by some trojans and adware last month, so I'm pretty sure that has something to do with it.
But to get my CC info they'd have to get to a place where it's stored, like one of the following places/accounts where I'm using it:

GoDaddy
EV1-Servers
AdWords
Overture
Paypal

Or could my info also be stored somewhere on my PC? A keylogger wouldn't work since I've not typed in my info anywhere during the last month, right?

Would be cool if anybody could give me some ideas how they got it.

Dynamix · 02-02-2005, 03:01 AM

You're positive you haven't entered your info anywhere? At all? That'd be my first guess. Second, CC theifs don't always strike right away -- they could've had your credit card logged weeks or even months ago and just didn't make it down the "list" far enough until recently.

Get yourself a month-long credit report from www.Equifax.com and make sure the rest of your information wasn't leaked as well. If it was stolen they may have your other cards or even enough information to apply for a loan, etc.

goBigtime · 02-02-2005, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet

But to get my CC info they'd have to get to a place where it's stored, like one of the following places/accounts where I'm using it:

GoDaddy

Paypal

My CC company called me and said the same thing a couple days ago.

It was used directly at Paypal and a couple online resellers.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynamix

You're positive you haven't entered your info anywhere? At all? That'd be my first guess. Second, CC theifs don't always strike right away -- they could've had your credit card logged weeks or even months ago and just didn't make it down the "list" far enough until recently.

Get yourself a month-long credit report from www.Equifax.com and make sure the rest of your information wasn't leaked as well. If it was stolen they may have your other cards or even enough information to apply for a loan, etc.

I've just taken a look at all places where I've entered my info (like paypal, overture, etc), and they've all blanked out the first numbers of my CC, so I think that wasn't the way how they've got it.
I had a rebill at 2checkout.com in mid January, so maybe some seller stored my info on his harddrive, and got hacked. But I don't think that 2checkout.com would give out the buyers CC info to some of their clients/affiliates.
I really have no clue how they got it

Another thing is that I'm european, do you think equifax.com would work for me too?

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by goBigtime

My CC company called me and said the same thing a couple days ago.

It was used directly at Paypal and a couple online resellers.

Which online resellers, maybe we've used the same recently, that would be a hint.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 03:46 AM

As an update, the thief bought some items from an exhaust manufactory in GB, I've alredy contacted them, hopefully they have an physical adress of that guy (let's hope that he's that stupid)

Dynamix · 02-02-2005, 04:00 AM

I doubt he'd use a real address, but if they do provide a shipping location, he'd live in that city as he'd have to pick up the stolen merchandise.

Not sure if Equifax has credit rating companies over in Europe, but I'm sure someone on this board from over the pond will have links to a similar service.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 04:09 AM

He also bought Domains for $300 and a virtual hosting account, and I've gooten tons of payments for IBill Trials, so I guess he's signing up for trials with stolen CCs and tries to scam PPS Sponsors. So if I'm right then he'd have an account with these sponsors which should have his real address. Or he's just an idiot that signed up for some porn sites.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 04:13 AM

LOL, he donated $0.80 for Amnesty International, and I've charged it back already, that's really wrong somehow

sugarlips · 02-02-2005, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet

Damn, I just got my monthly statement and I've seen that someone made 10-20 transactions for ~$2000 with my creditcard.
Did anyone had such a problem before? Any idea how they got my info?

My first thought was that my paypal account might got hacked, and I also got hit by some trojans, adware and spyware last month?

Mine too:

No offense just a little levity...

killshot · 02-02-2005, 04:19 AM

have you used your card in any stores or other places besides online?
sometimes reciepts have your full credit card info on them
someone could have stood behind you and gotten your info
someone could have gone through your garbage....

I am rather obsessive about finances so if anything is weird on my account i notice it right away.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killshot

have you used your card in any stores or other places besides online?
sometimes reciepts have your full credit card info on them
someone could have stood behind you and gotten your info
someone could have gone through your garbage....

I am rather obsessive about finances so if anything is weird on my account i notice it right away.

No, this is my business bank account, and I'm only using the card for online transactions, and I'm even paranoid enough that I destroy everything that contains any financial info before I put it into the trash.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 04:40 AM

Ok, so I'm also pretty sure now that it wasn't the trojans/spyware etc. shit I've got infected with mid January, cause all transaction where made at least 5 days before I had to deal with that.

BTW, I'd need your help to find some info about the following entires on my Statement, cause I can't find anything worthful in Google, maybe some of you've heard about them already:

IFUND-POKERN
CHRISTIAN AI (Christian Aid?)
SHRINERS HOS (Shriners Host/Hospital?)
ASIASOFT INT
RICHARD HABE
ALLO STORE V

thx

wyldblyss · 02-02-2005, 04:46 AM

That totally sucks! The good thing is you got on top of things right away and are having them taken care of.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wyldblyss

That totally sucks! The good thing is you got on top of things right away and are having them taken care of.

That guy is my new hobby for the next days

kgp43 · 02-02-2005, 05:04 AM

I just read that Mastercard had a bug in one of theire cgi scripts, so when a user typed theire cardnumber at theire main site, then it will store the info on another server aswell.

This only count Mastercard tho and should have been fixed by now.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 05:20 AM

At the moment I'm trying to understand what kind of guy that could be, he ordered tons of domains and a server, so he could be a webmaster.
He also signed up for a few paysites , so he was either horny or wanted to scam them, which also points a bit in the direction that he's a webmaster.
Then he spent some money for Poker and some online gaming, and donated some $ to some Aid organisations.

So either that guy is completly retarded, or it's more than only one.

Basic_man · 02-02-2005, 05:27 AM

Damn, that suck big time man ! Hope they will accept all charge backs !

Kassidy · 02-02-2005, 05:31 AM

This happened to us last month but the card wasn't used for any online transactions at all, just a gas station, liquor store, jewelry, and clothing stores in another city in Canada. VISA put a hold on the card before it got too out of hand because they noticed a lot of unusual activity (we don't use that particular card much, only for vacations).

There's an investigation going on but we have no idea how it could have happened; the card was still in my hubby's wallet. We're thinking it was part of some sophisticated fraud thing, because they'd have had to make a whole new card as these were all purchases that had to be made physically. No one buys gas online or phones in the card number ;) We hadn't used that card in canada for months so someone was holding on to our number for a while.

Ar3s · 02-02-2005, 05:33 AM

hope the bank will give they moneyback ....
mabey someone stole your wallet and give it back after got the cc info?

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ar3s

hope the bank will give they moneyback ....
mabey someone stole your wallet and give it back after got the cc info?

I think it must happend online somehow, since all transactions were made online too, and I'm always wearing my wallet in my trousers front pocket, so somebody would have to cut of my leg to get it.

They must have gotten it somehow from my PC, or one of the DBs of a billing provider got hacked.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 06:27 AM

So the host where he've bought the virtual account with my card replied so far, they'll try to get some detailed info about the domains he've used with his account.

Wiggles · 02-02-2005, 06:52 AM

same thing happened to me but not online, i still had my card but someone was making purchases, i called cc company and the place they made purchases, the store debited all charges back to my credit card as they never requested to see card or got signature because they had taken a phone order and when person came in just gave him stuff, i think that salesman got fired.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiggles

same thing happened to me but not online, i still had my card but someone was making purchases, i called cc company and the place they made purchases, the store debited all charges back to my credit card as they never requested to see card or got signature because they had taken a phone order and when person came in just gave him stuff, i think that salesman got fired.

I'm pretty sure that I'll get everything back, my country has rather firm costumer rights, and it's more than obvious that these transactions are fraudulent.

But the only thing that still bothers me is how he got the info, as long as I don't know that I can't even be sure if he's not still spying on me.

kuthi123 · 02-02-2005, 07:17 AM

first format your system

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kuthi123

first format your system

I'd like to avoid that, I'm using Norton Firewall and Antivirus, Lavasoft AdAware, and 5 other anti whatever Programs, so I never thought that this could happen to me.

paulapays · 02-02-2005, 07:33 AM

Call your credit card bank and claim your account statesment.

[QUOTE=sugarlips]Mine too:

Hey!! I like your pic...

nojob · 02-02-2005, 08:05 AM

wow , sorry bro.

Dynamix · 02-02-2005, 08:11 AM

Try and get all the names of domains he registered, perhaps somebody here has more info

BuggyG · 02-02-2005, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killshot

have you used your card in any stores or other places besides online?
sometimes reciepts have your full credit card info on them
someone could have stood behind you and gotten your info
someone could have gone through your garbage....

I am rather obsessive about finances so if anything is weird on my account i notice it right away.

same here.. I usually shred all my documents
never leave anything lying around
and when cc statement doesn't arrive
I always call to ask them for it
that way they know about it in case somethign happens

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynamix

Try and get all the names of domains he registered, perhaps somebody here has more info

I'm already working on that, plus he bought an exhaust and a camera at two different online shops, so hopefully thes have some info for me too.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 09:17 AM

Well, I just got a name, phone# and address for an appartment in bangkok

Maybe he's really a stupid scammer.

hjnet · 02-02-2005, 11:33 AM

Does anybody now something about CC fraud from Thailand? I've found a few boards where they trade lists of stolen Creditcards, but I still would like to konw how they got acces to my CC#.

SmokeyTheBear · 02-02-2005, 01:19 PM

Just so you know , if it was in canada , heres most likely what happened.. ( as its a common scam and i notice gas on that card )

Asian gangs will pay off an employee of a gas station to "double" swipe your card, the first swipe is legit , the second " under the counter" swipe is on a fraud cc swipe machine that simply records the info from the card..

Later after they pull the machine after a month or 2 they check the limits , and reproduce the actual credit cards and load them with your info , now they just use it like a regular visa.

hjnet · 02-03-2005, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Just so you know , if it was in canada , heres most likely what happened.. ( as its a common scam and i notice gas on that card )

Asian gangs will pay off an employee of a gas station to "double" swipe your card, the first swipe is legit , the second " under the counter" swipe is on a fraud cc swipe machine that simply records the info from the card..

Later after they pull the machine after a month or 2 they check the limits , and reproduce the actual credit cards and load them with your info , now they just use it like a regular visa.

I didn't use the card for anything offline, so I'm sure it happend online somehow. I just forwarded the name I've gotten to the police, maybe they find out more in the next months (LOL)

xclusive · 02-03-2005, 02:17 AM

that sucks i hope that you get everything worked out

hjnet · 02-03-2005, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

that sucks i hope that you get everything worked out

Mastercard told me today that they'd need ~ 1 week to refund the money, so if I get everything back nothing was lost expect of a bit of interest money, and maybe a few fees for the transactions (I don't think that mastercard will swallow them too). And hopefully my name isn't now on every scrubbing list for bad CCs, that would be the biggest damage

02-02-2005, 01:56 AM	#1
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Someone stole my Creditcard info Damn, I just got my monthly statement and I've seen that someone made 10-20 transactions for ~$2000 with my creditcard. Did anyone had such a problem before? Any idea how they got my info? My first thought was that my paypal account might got hacked, and I also got hit by some trojans, adware and spyware last month?

02-02-2005, 01:57 AM	#2
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02-02-2005, 02:06 AM	#3
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02-02-2005, 03:01 AM	#5
Dynamix G F Y not Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MN Posts: 2,910	You're positive you haven't entered your info anywhere? At all? That'd be my first guess. Second, CC theifs don't always strike right away -- they could've had your credit card logged weeks or even months ago and just didn't make it down the "list" far enough until recently. Get yourself a month-long credit report from www.Equifax.com and make sure the rest of your information wasn't leaked as well. If it was stolen they may have your other cards or even enough information to apply for a loan, etc. __________________ TGPFactory Full TGP Design & Installation Services ICQ 250 142 484 · AIM TGPDynamix · Email: patrick (at) tgpfactory (dot) com See who I am at AdultWhosWho.com!

02-02-2005, 04:00 AM	#10
Dynamix G F Y not Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MN Posts: 2,910	I doubt he'd use a real address, but if they do provide a shipping location, he'd live in that city as he'd have to pick up the stolen merchandise. Not sure if Equifax has credit rating companies over in Europe, but I'm sure someone on this board from over the pond will have links to a similar service. __________________ TGPFactory Full TGP Design & Installation Services ICQ 250 142 484 · AIM TGPDynamix · Email: patrick (at) tgpfactory (dot) com See who I am at AdultWhosWho.com!

02-02-2005, 02:55 AM	#4
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	I've just requested 19 chargebacks at my bank and got my old CC locked, so I guess that's everything I can do to get my money back. But I'd like to know how they got the info, I got infected by some trojans and adware last month, so I'm pretty sure that has something to do with it. But to get my CC info they'd have to get to a place where it's stored, like one of the following places/accounts where I'm using it: GoDaddy EV1-Servers AdWords Overture Paypal Or could my info also be stored somewhere on my PC? A keylogger wouldn't work since I've not typed in my info anywhere during the last month, right? Would be cool if anybody could give me some ideas how they got it.

02-02-2005, 03:46 AM	#9
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	As an update, the thief bought some items from an exhaust manufactory in GB, I've alredy contacted them, hopefully they have an physical adress of that guy (let's hope that he's that stupid)

02-02-2005, 04:09 AM	#11
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	He also bought Domains for $300 and a virtual hosting account, and I've gooten tons of payments for IBill Trials, so I guess he's signing up for trials with stolen CCs and tries to scam PPS Sponsors. So if I'm right then he'd have an account with these sponsors which should have his real address. Or he's just an idiot that signed up for some porn sites.

02-02-2005, 04:13 AM	#12
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	LOL, he donated $0.80 for Amnesty International, and I've charged it back already, that's really wrong somehow

02-02-2005, 04:19 AM	#14
killshot Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OGG / PDX Posts: 456	have you used your card in any stores or other places besides online? sometimes reciepts have your full credit card info on them someone could have stood behind you and gotten your info someone could have gone through your garbage.... I am rather obsessive about finances so if anything is weird on my account i notice it right away. __________________

02-02-2005, 04:40 AM	#16
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Ok, so I'm also pretty sure now that it wasn't the trojans/spyware etc. shit I've got infected with mid January, cause all transaction where made at least 5 days before I had to deal with that. BTW, I'd need your help to find some info about the following entires on my Statement, cause I can't find anything worthful in Google, maybe some of you've heard about them already: IFUND-POKERN CHRISTIAN AI (Christian Aid?) SHRINERS HOS (Shriners Host/Hospital?) ASIASOFT INT RICHARD HABE ALLO STORE V thx

02-02-2005, 04:46 AM	#17
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	That totally sucks! The good thing is you got on top of things right away and are having them taken care of.

02-02-2005, 05:04 AM	#19
kgp43 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 143	I just read that Mastercard had a bug in one of theire cgi scripts, so when a user typed theire cardnumber at theire main site, then it will store the info on another server aswell. This only count Mastercard tho and should have been fixed by now. __________________ ... .

02-02-2005, 05:20 AM	#20
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	At the moment I'm trying to understand what kind of guy that could be, he ordered tons of domains and a server, so he could be a webmaster. He also signed up for a few paysites , so he was either horny or wanted to scam them, which also points a bit in the direction that he's a webmaster. Then he spent some money for Poker and some online gaming, and donated some $ to some Aid organisations. So either that guy is completly retarded, or it's more than only one.

02-02-2005, 05:27 AM	#21
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02-02-2005, 05:31 AM	#22
Kassidy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouverish... ICQ# 111432084 Posts: 1,219	This happened to us last month but the card wasn't used for any online transactions at all, just a gas station, liquor store, jewelry, and clothing stores in another city in Canada. VISA put a hold on the card before it got too out of hand because they noticed a lot of unusual activity (we don't use that particular card much, only for vacations). There's an investigation going on but we have no idea how it could have happened; the card was still in my hubby's wallet. We're thinking it was part of some sophisticated fraud thing, because they'd have had to make a whole new card as these were all purchases that had to be made physically. No one buys gas online or phones in the card number ;) We hadn't used that card in canada for months so someone was holding on to our number for a while. __________________ The ORIGINAL micro niche program- All Original and exclusive content. Paying 60% recurring through CCBill, FHG, free content & gallery templates Well researched niches with on-target content. SUBSTANCE SELLS!

02-02-2005, 05:33 AM	#23
Ar3s So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ : 207880728 Posts: 4,307	hope the bank will give they moneyback .... mabey someone stole your wallet and give it back after got the cc info?

02-02-2005, 06:27 AM	#25
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	So the host where he've bought the virtual account with my card replied so far, they'll try to get some detailed info about the domains he've used with his account.

02-02-2005, 06:52 AM	#26
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	same thing happened to me but not online, i still had my card but someone was making purchases, i called cc company and the place they made purchases, the store debited all charges back to my credit card as they never requested to see card or got signature because they had taken a phone order and when person came in just gave him stuff, i think that salesman got fired. __________________ no sig

02-02-2005, 07:17 AM	#28
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02-02-2005, 07:33 AM	#30
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02-02-2005, 09:17 AM	#35
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Well, I just got a name, phone# and address for an appartment in bangkok Maybe he's really a stupid scammer.

02-02-2005, 11:33 AM	#36
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Does anybody now something about CC fraud from Thailand? I've found a few boards where they trade lists of stolen Creditcards, but I still would like to konw how they got acces to my CC#.

02-02-2005, 01:19 PM	#37
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Just so you know , if it was in canada , heres most likely what happened.. ( as its a common scam and i notice gas on that card ) Asian gangs will pay off an employee of a gas station to "double" swipe your card, the first swipe is legit , the second " under the counter" swipe is on a fraud cc swipe machine that simply records the info from the card.. Later after they pull the machine after a month or 2 they check the limits , and reproduce the actual credit cards and load them with your info , now they just use it like a regular visa. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

02-03-2005, 02:17 AM	#39
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