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hjnet 02-02-2005 01:56 AM

Someone stole my Creditcard info
 
Damn, I just got my monthly statement and I've seen that someone made 10-20 transactions for ~$2000 with my creditcard.
Did anyone had such a problem before? Any idea how they got my info?

My first thought was that my paypal account might got hacked, and I also got hit by some trojans, adware and spyware last month?

vivency-AdamQ 02-02-2005 01:57 AM

call credit card company ASAP

DutchTeenCash 02-02-2005 02:06 AM

call the company have it blocked fill out a fraud form asap today now this very second

hjnet 02-02-2005 02:55 AM

I've just requested 19 chargebacks at my bank and got my old CC locked, so I guess that's everything I can do to get my money back.

But I'd like to know how they got the info, I got infected by some trojans and adware last month, so I'm pretty sure that has something to do with it.
But to get my CC info they'd have to get to a place where it's stored, like one of the following places/accounts where I'm using it:

GoDaddy
EV1-Servers
AdWords
Overture
Paypal

Or could my info also be stored somewhere on my PC? A keylogger wouldn't work since I've not typed in my info anywhere during the last month, right?

Would be cool if anybody could give me some ideas how they got it.

Dynamix 02-02-2005 03:01 AM

You're positive you haven't entered your info anywhere? At all? That'd be my first guess. Second, CC theifs don't always strike right away -- they could've had your credit card logged weeks or even months ago and just didn't make it down the "list" far enough until recently.

Get yourself a month-long credit report from www.Equifax.com and make sure the rest of your information wasn't leaked as well. If it was stolen they may have your other cards or even enough information to apply for a loan, etc.

goBigtime 02-02-2005 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet
But to get my CC info they'd have to get to a place where it's stored, like one of the following places/accounts where I'm using it:

GoDaddy

Paypal

My CC company called me and said the same thing a couple days ago.

It was used directly at Paypal and a couple online resellers.

hjnet 02-02-2005 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamix
You're positive you haven't entered your info anywhere? At all? That'd be my first guess. Second, CC theifs don't always strike right away -- they could've had your credit card logged weeks or even months ago and just didn't make it down the "list" far enough until recently.

Get yourself a month-long credit report from www.Equifax.com and make sure the rest of your information wasn't leaked as well. If it was stolen they may have your other cards or even enough information to apply for a loan, etc.

I've just taken a look at all places where I've entered my info (like paypal, overture, etc), and they've all blanked out the first numbers of my CC, so I think that wasn't the way how they've got it.
I had a rebill at 2checkout.com in mid January, so maybe some seller stored my info on his harddrive, and got hacked. But I don't think that 2checkout.com would give out the buyers CC info to some of their clients/affiliates.
I really have no clue how they got it :mad:

Another thing is that I'm european, do you think equifax.com would work for me too?

hjnet 02-02-2005 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goBigtime
My CC company called me and said the same thing a couple days ago.

It was used directly at Paypal and a couple online resellers.

Which online resellers, maybe we've used the same recently, that would be a hint.

hjnet 02-02-2005 03:46 AM

As an update, the thief bought some items from an exhaust manufactory in GB, I've alredy contacted them, hopefully they have an physical adress of that guy (let's hope that he's that stupid)

Dynamix 02-02-2005 04:00 AM

I doubt he'd use a real address, but if they do provide a shipping location, he'd live in that city as he'd have to pick up the stolen merchandise.

Not sure if Equifax has credit rating companies over in Europe, but I'm sure someone on this board from over the pond will have links to a similar service.

hjnet 02-02-2005 04:09 AM

He also bought Domains for $300 and a virtual hosting account, and I've gooten tons of payments for IBill Trials, so I guess he's signing up for trials with stolen CCs and tries to scam PPS Sponsors. So if I'm right then he'd have an account with these sponsors which should have his real address. Or he's just an idiot that signed up for some porn sites.

hjnet 02-02-2005 04:13 AM

LOL, he donated $0.80 for Amnesty International, and I've charged it back already, that's really wrong somehow :1orglaugh

sugarlips 02-02-2005 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hjnet
Damn, I just got my monthly statement and I've seen that someone made 10-20 transactions for ~$2000 with my creditcard.
Did anyone had such a problem before? Any idea how they got my info?

My first thought was that my paypal account might got hacked, and I also got hit by some trojans, adware and spyware last month?

Mine too:

http://www.thethrillhammer.com/AllenFunnyPic.jpg





No offense just a little levity...

killshot 02-02-2005 04:19 AM

have you used your card in any stores or other places besides online?
sometimes reciepts have your full credit card info on them
someone could have stood behind you and gotten your info
someone could have gone through your garbage....

I am rather obsessive about finances so if anything is weird on my account i notice it right away.

hjnet 02-02-2005 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killshot
have you used your card in any stores or other places besides online?
sometimes reciepts have your full credit card info on them
someone could have stood behind you and gotten your info
someone could have gone through your garbage....

I am rather obsessive about finances so if anything is weird on my account i notice it right away.

No, this is my business bank account, and I'm only using the card for online transactions, and I'm even paranoid enough that I destroy everything that contains any financial info before I put it into the trash.

hjnet 02-02-2005 04:40 AM

Ok, so I'm also pretty sure now that it wasn't the trojans/spyware etc. shit I've got infected with mid January, cause all transaction where made at least 5 days before I had to deal with that.

BTW, I'd need your help to find some info about the following entires on my Statement, cause I can't find anything worthful in Google, maybe some of you've heard about them already:

IFUND-POKERN
CHRISTIAN AI (Christian Aid?)
SHRINERS HOS (Shriners Host/Hospital?)
ASIASOFT INT
RICHARD HABE
ALLO STORE V

thx :)

wyldblyss 02-02-2005 04:46 AM

That totally sucks! The good thing is you got on top of things right away and are having them taken care of.

hjnet 02-02-2005 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldblyss
That totally sucks! The good thing is you got on top of things right away and are having them taken care of.

That guy is my new hobby for the next days :)

kgp43 02-02-2005 05:04 AM

I just read that Mastercard had a bug in one of theire cgi scripts, so when a user typed theire cardnumber at theire main site, then it will store the info on another server aswell.

This only count Mastercard tho and should have been fixed by now.

hjnet 02-02-2005 05:20 AM

At the moment I'm trying to understand what kind of guy that could be, he ordered tons of domains and a server, so he could be a webmaster.
He also signed up for a few paysites , so he was either horny or wanted to scam them, which also points a bit in the direction that he's a webmaster.
Then he spent some money for Poker and some online gaming, and donated some $ to some Aid organisations.

So either that guy is completly retarded, or it's more than only one.

Basic_man 02-02-2005 05:27 AM

Damn, that suck big time man ! Hope they will accept all charge backs !

Kassidy 02-02-2005 05:31 AM

This happened to us last month but the card wasn't used for any online transactions at all, just a gas station, liquor store, jewelry, and clothing stores in another city in Canada. VISA put a hold on the card before it got too out of hand because they noticed a lot of unusual activity (we don't use that particular card much, only for vacations).

There's an investigation going on but we have no idea how it could have happened; the card was still in my hubby's wallet. We're thinking it was part of some sophisticated fraud thing, because they'd have had to make a whole new card as these were all purchases that had to be made physically. No one buys gas online or phones in the card number ;) We hadn't used that card in canada for months so someone was holding on to our number for a while.

Ar3s 02-02-2005 05:33 AM

hope the bank will give they moneyback ....
mabey someone stole your wallet and give it back after got the cc info?

hjnet 02-02-2005 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ar3s
hope the bank will give they moneyback ....
mabey someone stole your wallet and give it back after got the cc info?


I think it must happend online somehow, since all transactions were made online too, and I'm always wearing my wallet in my trousers front pocket, so somebody would have to cut of my leg to get it.

They must have gotten it somehow from my PC, or one of the DBs of a billing provider got hacked.

hjnet 02-02-2005 06:27 AM

So the host where he've bought the virtual account with my card replied so far, they'll try to get some detailed info about the domains he've used with his account.

Wiggles 02-02-2005 06:52 AM

same thing happened to me but not online, i still had my card but someone was making purchases, i called cc company and the place they made purchases, the store debited all charges back to my credit card as they never requested to see card or got signature because they had taken a phone order and when person came in just gave him stuff, i think that salesman got fired.

hjnet 02-02-2005 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles
same thing happened to me but not online, i still had my card but someone was making purchases, i called cc company and the place they made purchases, the store debited all charges back to my credit card as they never requested to see card or got signature because they had taken a phone order and when person came in just gave him stuff, i think that salesman got fired.

I'm pretty sure that I'll get everything back, my country has rather firm costumer rights, and it's more than obvious that these transactions are fraudulent.

But the only thing that still bothers me is how he got the info, as long as I don't know that I can't even be sure if he's not still spying on me.

kuthi123 02-02-2005 07:17 AM

first format your system

hjnet 02-02-2005 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuthi123
first format your system

I'd like to avoid that, I'm using Norton Firewall and Antivirus, Lavasoft AdAware, and 5 other anti whatever Programs, so I never thought that this could happen to me.

paulapays 02-02-2005 07:33 AM

Call your credit card bank and claim your account statesment.


[QUOTE=sugarlips]Mine too:

http://www.thethrillhammer.com/AllenFunnyPic.jpg




Hey!! I like your pic... :thumbsup

nojob 02-02-2005 08:05 AM

wow , sorry bro.

Dynamix 02-02-2005 08:11 AM

Try and get all the names of domains he registered, perhaps somebody here has more info :2 cents:

BuggyG 02-02-2005 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killshot
have you used your card in any stores or other places besides online?
sometimes reciepts have your full credit card info on them
someone could have stood behind you and gotten your info
someone could have gone through your garbage....

I am rather obsessive about finances so if anything is weird on my account i notice it right away.

same here.. I usually shred all my documents
never leave anything lying around
and when cc statement doesn't arrive
I always call to ask them for it
that way they know about it in case somethign happens :thumbsup

hjnet 02-02-2005 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamix
Try and get all the names of domains he registered, perhaps somebody here has more info :2 cents:

I'm already working on that, plus he bought an exhaust and a camera at two different online shops, so hopefully thes have some info for me too.

hjnet 02-02-2005 09:17 AM

Well, I just got a name, phone# and address for an appartment in bangkok :)

Maybe he's really a stupid scammer.

hjnet 02-02-2005 11:33 AM

Does anybody now something about CC fraud from Thailand? I've found a few boards where they trade lists of stolen Creditcards, but I still would like to konw how they got acces to my CC#.

SmokeyTheBear 02-02-2005 01:19 PM

Just so you know , if it was in canada , heres most likely what happened.. ( as its a common scam and i notice gas on that card )

Asian gangs will pay off an employee of a gas station to "double" swipe your card, the first swipe is legit , the second " under the counter" swipe is on a fraud cc swipe machine that simply records the info from the card..

Later after they pull the machine after a month or 2 they check the limits , and reproduce the actual credit cards and load them with your info , now they just use it like a regular visa.

hjnet 02-03-2005 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Just so you know , if it was in canada , heres most likely what happened.. ( as its a common scam and i notice gas on that card )

Asian gangs will pay off an employee of a gas station to "double" swipe your card, the first swipe is legit , the second " under the counter" swipe is on a fraud cc swipe machine that simply records the info from the card..

Later after they pull the machine after a month or 2 they check the limits , and reproduce the actual credit cards and load them with your info , now they just use it like a regular visa.

I didn't use the card for anything offline, so I'm sure it happend online somehow. I just forwarded the name I've gotten to the police, maybe they find out more in the next months (LOL)

xclusive 02-03-2005 02:17 AM

that sucks i hope that you get everything worked out

hjnet 02-03-2005 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive
that sucks i hope that you get everything worked out

Mastercard told me today that they'd need ~ 1 week to refund the money, so if I get everything back nothing was lost expect of a bit of interest money, and maybe a few fees for the transactions (I don't think that mastercard will swallow them too). And hopefully my name isn't now on every scrubbing list for bad CCs, that would be the biggest damage :mad:


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