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Old 01-31-2005, 01:53 PM   #1
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Ever been screwed out of Ca$h? How much?

Ever been screwed out of Ca$h? How much?


I'm currently getting fucked with no ky... You?
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:55 PM   #2
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i SELL ky FOR CHEAP


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Old 01-31-2005, 01:55 PM   #3
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Been fucked so hard I am still walking like a penguin. I cant say i didnt help put myself
in that situation but whats done is done.
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:56 PM   #4
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taxes or ???
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:56 PM   #5
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taxes or ???
No... By a proggy..
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:57 PM   #6
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:58 PM   #7
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No... By a proggy..
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:58 PM   #9
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Got you beat this time bro...
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:06 PM   #12
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$2k by content 2 die 4 (jim)
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$10k by various sponsers back the the early days (97-99) who subsequently disappeared.

but I am still smiling !
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:08 PM   #13
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A couple million.

I am very serious. I should have filed a lawsuit when I had the chance but I thought I could just do it again...

You people wonder why I am so bitter sometimes.

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Old 01-31-2005, 02:13 PM   #14
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most money was 13k, next time won't exist (without taking someone down)

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Old 01-31-2005, 02:17 PM   #15
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Read my post on KRL's board, and we can continue the discussion over there
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:18 PM   #16
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I will tell ya a summary.

It was a pivotal moment in adult internet History when XPICS publishing acquired a company I basically put on the map.
XPICS acquired that company to the tune of 10 Million.

I was entitled to my fair share of the sale considering I was the only guy designing for that company that was bought at that time. I helped create the first affiliate tracking software and designed the first pages that ever implemented affiliate tracking.

The nasty part about the deal was the owner of the company was a coke head and kept the money for himself.
My vigilanti style I decided to leave the coke head company and work for Brian Schuster directly. I went on a mission to ruin any credibility that the company had since I was abruptly cut out of the buy out deal. Once that said company went bankrupt I left XPICS.

If you know old internet adult history ya know these words are true.

I should have filed a lawsuit instead...
I would be better off today thats for sure.

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Old 01-31-2005, 02:34 PM   #17
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Bump because this shit is important for you newbies out there.
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:37 PM   #18
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:38 PM   #19
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:44 PM   #20
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I'm currently getting fucked with no ky... You?
Oh Yeah.

I was fucked out of $250,000+ when I sold Zmaster in 1999 to Bonnie M. I spent 40K in legal fee's, her husband divorced her and brought this 'screw' into the divorce and they ordered her to pay me. starting with 35K.....

Either she was incredibly smart or stupid but she sold Zmaster right out from under a divorce mess and a lawsuit from me.

I got zero, and this company made me millions, was in its prime and this was a friend of 10 years WHO I trusted.

It still hurts.
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:45 PM   #21
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I will tell ya a summary.

It was a pivotal moment in adult internet History when XPICS publishing acquired a company I basically put on the map.
XPICS acquired that company to the tune of 10 Million.

I was entitled to my fair share of the sale considering I was the only guy designing for that company that was bought at that time. I helped create the first affiliate tracking software and designed the first pages that ever implemented affiliate tracking.

The nasty part about the deal was the owner of the company was a coke head and kept the money for himself.
My vigilanti style I decided to leave the coke head company and work for Brian Schuster directly. I went on a mission to ruin any credibility that the company had since I was abruptly cut out of the buy out deal. Once that said company went bankrupt I left XPICS.

If you know old internet adult history ya know these words are true.

I should have filed a lawsuit instead...
I would be better off today thats for sure.
So that's xpics, affiliate tracking, the tracking software, all beginnings of adult web design, and if I'm not mistaken, I believe I've seen you say that you created cascading billing, too.

For someone who basically started/invented all of online adult business, it's amazing that you're not the richest man here.
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:58 PM   #24
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:00 PM   #25
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About $4K by one of the first live video sponsors when they went tits up; 5-figure losses courtesy of Globill and the other payment processor which went pear-shaped around the same time in what, 2003 (?); several small amounts via vanished sponsors (mainly dialers): a little over $40K in total, already billed.

The one which p*ssed me off most, although the amount of money was very small, was Adult Check, because of course they stayed in business and among the people still happy to work with them are some well-known webmasters. I thought that was a very dangerous precedent for the industry.
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$600,000 was one of the bigger individual ones. I'm well into 7 figs of getting fucked on combined deals now.
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Oh Ho..... I almost forgot about DMR... oh my god....
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:07 PM   #28
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So that's xpics, affiliate tracking, the tracking software, all beginnings of adult web design, and if I'm not mistaken, I believe I've seen you say that you created cascading billing, too.

For someone who basically started/invented all of online adult business, it's amazing that you're not the richest man here.
Yeah, I cry myself to sleep at night often.
I have been paid handsomely by many people to remain anonymous on many things that have effected and continue to effect this industry.

Dont get me wrong, I have what I need to live and get by, I have property in Tahoe and live in LA. If I were more aggressive, and far less selfless in helping people I would be richer than FantasyMan or perhaps even Mark De.

Even at this very moment I have put into the wheels just TODAY that effect over 3/4's of you webmasters currently in this industry. This is no joke.
Believe me when I say it...
I have helped or assisted many many of todays success stories in adult internet since 1995-96. I keep a very low profile for the most part and am rather concieted about my accomplishments most of which I never mention.
But regarding you new folks in this business in the age where anyone can make a porn site and turn a few bucks profit from it I will mention some things that are very important.

I suppose this about XPICS back in the good days was to enlighten some of you about NOT TAKING ANY SHIT FROM NO ONE. Do it your way or you will live like me, in a world of regret.
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I have never openned an affiliate program. Dont ask why I havent because I do not even know but if I did, I know it would be the best one.

PSII: I run a very small operation and I follow very closely what people are doing, whether what pops up on the boards or directly scanning odd things in several networks via PORT Sniffing, EMail servers and such to understand activities of todays major to minor adult affiliate programs. I am a scary person to know cuz I scare even myself sometimes...
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