50 questionable TOS

Have you ever heard of the Pepsi Challenge?

so


I use this penis "things"and I now have a 60 inch cock

I love these products

1. www.whatever.com
2. www.fastsize.com
3. http://www.whateverbutnotjoebucksbec...yarestupid.com

and now when I send sales to fastsize I will get my account closed?

May I ask why you have made this decission?

becuase he wants all there affiliates to join other affiliates programs like ours... very very good business practise if you ask me :)

once again I think it's important to reiterate on important thing here

http://www.joebucks.com/kb

WE ARE NOT YOUR ORDINARY AVERAGE JOE PROGRAM-
and we PAY MORE THAN ANYONE

my new affiliate this morning is doing 1:31 and that's not BS.

hey brad, about rule 1, if fast size is placed with other enlargement products and is in alphabetical order, not ordered by payout or performance does that matter? :) if u need to see an example hit me up

KB, do you take optin (Non adult/can spam compatible) mailing traffic?

If it's extremely clean and compliant
we do 90% of our business with mainstream.

Our products are geared for mainstream traffic-
and we have been converting very well in the last week or so for many of our mainstream guys

SE guys are our best clients however

That is FINE. I do not mind at all. So long as the text is factual. This only concerns ranking according to payouts or using fake/false information about our product.

Unranked: example- http://www.penisenlargementdirectory...extenders.html
Is completely fine as there is no "#1 product!" sort of title.

gotcha, yeah i took all my text from yer site so I should be cool on that regard I'll prolly hit ya up tomorrow and run through everything just to double check if ya don't mind

cant be more clean and compliant than this hehe

maybe wording the list to an opinion will help..like it is our feeling that these are the best pills for your pathetically small cock: 1penispill 2.t size etc


seem that alof of people might want to use the comparison to help drive sales

No worries X... known you for almost 2 years on GFY now I trust you if you say it's clean. :)

Jesus how pathetic. Firstly what Brad and FastSize are doing is protecting their brand, which is a legitimate move and good one.

Secondly KB you don't even sell devices, so perhaps you should check with your new providor about the products you sell.

Thirdly I am only going to post here due to the fact our name as been mentioned in a bad context. We do not just pay affiliates more and thus our product SizeGenetics gets listed first. We pay more, offer more to the surfer and have amazing conversion,

Feel free to compare www.FastSize.com & www.SizeGenetics.com and then decide which one you would purchase? Protecting a brand is a GREAT move, the reason it may back fire on FastSize is because they don't compete on value to customer or value and quality of service to affiliates.

The other thinking is FastSize are looking very long term when penis enlargement becomes mainstream, again a good thing to do. SizeGenetics are doing the same, with doctor tests, paying for clinical studies etc etc.

Lastly please at least give some applause to FastSize for their HONESTY in posting this on the forums and spreading the word.

Darren Beale - www.mensniche.com

hmmm... see sig everyone... MN is #1 all the way :thumbsup

thats a bad idea, making review pages of penis products really help conversions.

Darren you are RIGHT!

I do NOT sell devices because they simply DO NOT WORK and ARE A SCAM. Any surfer that really believes they can extend their penis in that stupid contraption is a customer Joebucks.com simply doesn't need.

I'd rather deal with guys like you who beg us to manufacture their own line of products for them
:-))

http://www.joebucks.com/kb

I'll pay you more and you can cut out the MIDDLEMEN

........

You are becoming pathetic.

I don't know. When I was 15 I tied a rope with a cinderblock on one end to my cock, and dropped it from the roof of my house.

Hurt like hell but I gained 5" over night

Pills don't work, the extenders do. It's clinically proven, and approved by a REAL doctor (the fastsize device anyways).

Ya think?

I am not here to make friends- I am here to make money and make sure everyone I have known for the last 7 yrs in this business now knows where I am, and that I am selling the BEST products you can find for this type of upsell

If that is pathetic to you, I am sorry.

but I have plenty of experience in selling upsells...

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/videos/awe/kbsells.ram

This was several million dollars ago for this particular company

KB trust me bro, I a trying to be nice to you. I am trying not to be insultive, I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you have some intelligence. But this is just unbelievable.

Do you actually know what you sell? A penis enlargement pill on its own would never EVER enlarge your penis, same with all the other stuff (MensNiche always sells systems that work)...

Some bed time reading for you on the SizeGenetics device which was featured in MensHealth as working, doctor tests prove it works, currently 500 doctors worldwide buy the product from the creator and prescribe it for patients, featured in dozens of medical events including the 7th Congress of the European for Sexual Medicine etc round the globe.

http://www.sizegenetics.com/study1.htm
http://www.sizegenetics.com/study2.htm
http://www.sizegenetics.com/study3.htm
http://www.sizegenetics.com/study4.htm
http://www.sizegenetics.com/study5.htm

Customers here, before and afters bla bla http://mens-network.com/forum/forumd...?s=&forumid=14

http://www.essm2004.org/pages/congress_information.htm Recent Congress we attended and the product was displayed and doctor approved at.

No wonder we sacked you KB.

and pills AREN'T a scam? :1orglaugh

KB in fact anyone I lay down a challenge SHOW me how ANY of your programs/products out beat www.MensNiche.com ratios, or pay more, or offer free webdesign, free programming, 2,000 articles, free content, free SEO optimization, testing of PPC campaigns with our money and showing you results, 24 hour support cuz of different time zones...

Or simply shut the fuck up for once.

depends on the pill, the formulation, and the practices of the customer to be quite honest with you.
Do penis pills work? They sell..
Do they increase blood flow to the penis ? YES.

Do my pills for hair loss and patch for quitting smoking work ? yes.
Does my enlast.com product work to make you last longer in the sack?

YES.
http://www.herbalphentermine.com/
does this work?

YES.


But more importantly DO WE PAY WEBMASTERS MORE MONEY THAN ANYONE?

YES.


Do I just sell another "me too" penis pill program?

NO.

Someone sounds scared-
I can make up the same numbers you can

I'll do one better...

WHY DON'T WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR BOTH OF OUR PROGRAMS


Whoever makes MORE MONEY at the end of the month will win.

I guarantee it will be a JOEBUCKS.COM affiliate.

By the way is it NOT TRUE that you came to Joebucks.com looking to have us make pills for you way before I went to go work for them?

KB stop spamming my thread with this junk please. At least Darren is being classy about things.

I'll be polite as well Brad- I am sorry for jumping your thread- I just didn't like your TOS and felt you were being insulting to some of your affiliates.

Now that they are my affiliates- I will publically thank you
:-))

KB I love you, you make us seem so good! Its amazing how you ignore my replies that make you look an idiot, and you can't think of anything witty to reply. I laid down the challenge so post some stuff big man.

http://www.mensniche.com/topten.php is taken directly from affililiates sales and is updated dynamically live every second. Check it out, then wait for 10 seconds and click refresh (thats the icon in explorer with the 2 green arrows on, top leftish).

Since meeting Brad my cock is 2 inches longer

BradM. I sent you an ICQ. please respond.

You're obviously full of shit, as we don't sell the nonsense you do. What the hell is your problem?

Good job in the upsell video. You are a born speaker. (or well practiced)
It changed a lot of my board created opinions of you. I see there is more to you than your board persona.

I realize you are playing to your audiunce here on GFY with your "antics". But it would be nice to see some of that "well spoken" side come out here on the board more often. Rather than the thread-jacking and insults. Not as if you are the only one. I just know you are better than that. :2 cents:

-Tony

you're as mislead as the "idiot surfers" you so often refer to. I give a fuck about "increased blood flow" i can beat my cock against a wall for free and get the same effect. Increased blood flow does not necessarily mean increased size.

Stretching however, does work, and has been utilized for thousands of years by people/tribes across the globe, and considering most of these tribes SURVIVED their entire existance by using "herbal remedies" you'd think they'd have found the "penis enlargement" herbs by now wouldn't you? I know I'd rather eat some tree bark or something then hang 10 lb boulders from my schlong, but they're still hangin the boulders to this day. wonder why that is....

http://www.snakeoilpromotions.com/sop.jpg

Darren you didn't answer the question...

Did you not come to joebucks looking for them to do your "private labeling"

and are you not distributed by another company in Portland?


So you see where being the MANUFACTURER and DISTRIBUTOR for our OWN line of products can MAKE PEOPLE A LOT OF MONEY with Joebucks.com?

We can pay people as much as we want to-
If I find a dollar bill on the ground I pick it up-


Can YOU?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Damn Brad, this has to be one of the most counterproductive threads ever for you. A thread full of pics of you getting banged in the ass by Persius would even be more beneficial for you than this one.

If a threadfull of trolls, russians and such slamming me is bad... go for it. I've already had enough people comment on the move as SMART for protecting a brand. I could give a shit what half the morons here think- they can't even get along in civilized society let alone do they have any business sense about them.

this device converts 1:45 for me on targetted traffic and pays $115 per sale, and they dont care how you promote it

http://www.biggadick.com/affiliates.php

Tony I thank you for your compiliments and sincerely wish to tell you that although I am a consumate business professional in the real world- I also have to come play here during recess. It's no secret that any intelligence and semblance of anyone with an IQ over 60 is thrown out the window while visiting this board.

The time it would take me to construct rational and constuctive arguments that either help other webmasters become rich , or bring on constant flaming is simply not worth my time here.

I save those ideas and comments in my memoirs for my book, and save my soundbites of gold for national television these days.

Look, if you didn't notice the penis pill wars that were started last week by Darren and his mouth than I can understand where you'd think my abuse is unfounded.

However, since we are dealing with some "children" who wish to perceive themselves as big players every step they take- I succame to lowering myself to their level-

I told them last week when it comes to playing games I can be Milton Bradley.

I'd rather be the "Tony Robbins of Penis Pills " though
for one, I am better looking :-))

Wait, you guys have IQ's over 60?!? Damn, I thoughts I wud a geenyus with my 47 IQ.

Tony

Here is a little more of my highlight "reel"

http://www.marketingfirm.com/kbmedia.wmv

Maybe if I can change your opinion of me through my video - I can help show others I am no "fly by nighter"

as well

:-))

Oh yeah. I keep close tabs on my competition. hahahahahahahahahahahahas been lighting up this week. :winkwink:

-Tony

Well, rule #1 seems a bit odd, I have to pull some pages out. Pages with no big traffic but still, I might consider pulling Fastsize 'cause of these new rules.

I understand you want to protect your brand, but review sites (pills/extenders) are proved to increase conversions. Maybe other promoting methods are doing better, who knows? :thumbsup

Btw, I made a sale today, it wasn't paid instantly, why?

... and my account wasn't closed (yet)

That "haha" should say B0ardTr4cker

I was very surprised to hear of this TOS change to say the least, but it's their decision. Not sure if it's a good decision though.

Hard to know considering I don't know who you are. Please contact me directly. [email protected]

Brad, I was only asking due to curiosity. However, account #1846.

You should get your ass sued for slander...you aren't the sharpest pencil in the box iether...you preach that the pills you sell (and don't know shit about) work but this PROVEN methods don't...

*g*
:disgust