Is it true a Celeron chip is a rejected Pentium chip? - GoFuckYourself.com

Easton · 01-30-2005, 09:40 PM

some dude at Best Buy told me this "secret"... is there any truth to it?

i'm kinda curious...

the Shemp · 01-30-2005, 09:42 PM

no, but thats a good sales pitch...

MattO · 01-30-2005, 09:42 PM

You should know better than to listen to a non-commision goofball at Best Buy.

Here are the most important similarities and differences between the Pentium 4 and the Celeron chips coming out today:
Core - The Celeron chip is based on a Pentium 4 core.

Cache - Celeron chips have less cache memory than Pentium 4 chips do. A Celeron might have 128 kilobytes of L2 cache, while a Pentium 4 can have four times that. The amount of L2 cache memory can have a big effect on performance.

Clock speed - Intel manufactures the Pentium 4 chips to run at a higher clock speed than Celeron chips. The fastest Pentium 4 might be 60 percent faster than the fastest Celeron.

Bus speed - There are differences in the maximum bus speeds that the processors allow. Pentium 4s tend to be about 30 percent faster than Celerons.
When you sort all this out and compare the two chips side by side, it turns out that a Celeron and a Pentium 4 chip running at the same speed are different beasts. The smaller L2 cache size and slower bus speeds can mean serious performance differences depending on what you want to do with your computer. If all you do is check e-mail and browse the Web, the Celeron is fine, and the price difference can save you a lot of money. If you want the fastest machine you can buy, then you need to go with the Pentium 4 to get the highest clock speeds and the fastest system bus.

xclusive · 01-30-2005, 09:43 PM

no it was made specificly to be lower powered

Easton · 01-30-2005, 09:43 PM

i didn't think so either Rob, but we ended up with a P4 pimpin wide-brite-screen laptop anyhow... grrrrrrrr... we sold ourselves up LOL

Easton · 01-30-2005, 09:44 PM

thanks Matt, that was very insightful

Spunky · 01-30-2005, 09:44 PM

Celeron computers are o.k but always stick with pentium for performance..spend the extra

Easton · 01-30-2005, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky

Celeron computers are o.k but always stick with pentium for performance..spend the extra

absolutely, that's what we did... it just came up in the conversation and my bullshit meter went off, but i couldn't prove it LOL

BJ · 01-30-2005, 09:47 PM

better get the warranty or else you're screwed!!!

Easton · 01-30-2005, 09:49 PM

like i'd buy an extended warranty from someone who reminds me six times in 20 minutes that he isn't on commission... LMAO

jeffrey · 01-30-2005, 09:53 PM

lol
they might not be on commission but they get a bonus for selling x number of warranties.

The OLD celerons were rejected pentium chips. the new ones are just made to lower standards. and not as fast.

Easton · 01-30-2005, 09:57 PM

cool, glad we got that all cleared up... thanks guys

Icon · 01-30-2005, 10:00 PM

MattO - another question if you don't mind

I've been googling this question....

the P4 chip doesn't overheat? at 80 degrees C it regulates the entire system, slowing it down to lower the temp of the fan. so the P4 does not have a max temp? what is acceptable levels? is over 50 C bad? the P3 and P2 chips have detailed specs.

I'm new.

mrthumbs · 01-30-2005, 10:06 PM

yeah heard that too smewhere ages ago

BV · 01-30-2005, 10:13 PM

not sure if it holds true now but a few years ago yes

Hustlin Entertainment · 01-30-2005, 10:18 PM

all lies all of it

kowntafit · 01-30-2005, 10:22 PM

I think it was specifically designed that way. But you could be right.

Icon · 01-30-2005, 10:44 PM

bump - mattO

Young · 01-30-2005, 10:49 PM

I get about 6 months out of a computer before I completely destroy it. No I'm not talking about viruses.....I just work the hell out of them.

I killed a Celeron based computer in a month. The thing just kept crashing and couldn't handle my photoshop and premiere work.

stev0 · 01-30-2005, 11:16 PM

No, that's bullshit... the L2 cache is the big difference between Celeron and P3/4.

Der Schleicher · 01-30-2005, 11:21 PM

Celeron chips are good for home use. but pentium are much better for graphics softwares

lanclandesigns · 01-30-2005, 11:27 PM

That IS IN FACT 110% true. My cousin worked for intel for 4 years and he was the dude who wore the big "space suit" and helped put chips together. Celrons are rejected pentium 4 chips that have a few of the whatever the fuck u call it burnt out.

iwantchixx · 01-30-2005, 11:34 PM

bullshit. Total urban myth.

celerons were purposely made that way.

Sosa · 01-31-2005, 12:31 AM

celerons are fucking pos cpus. They run slower then fuck and can't do much with them in my opinion. Can't run more then 1 program at a time.

sandman! · 01-31-2005, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lanclandesigns

That IS IN FACT 110% true. My cousin worked for intel for 4 years and he was the dude who wore the big "space suit" and helped put chips together. Celrons are rejected pentium 4 chips that have a few of the whatever the fuck u call it burnt out.

Dumbass

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pussyluver · 01-31-2005, 12:37 AM

See many of you are studying for your A+ exam.

Testing of a chip determines what speed it will be sold at. Never trust a Best Buy Sales Rep. Go over and ask one of the Geek Squad guys. Geek Squad supports Best BUy for awhile now.

Mike Okitch · 01-31-2005, 12:58 AM

That's one retarded Best Buy salesman

jimmyf · 01-31-2005, 10:12 AM

If they were rejects I'm sure Intel would not be selling them.

DEA - banned for life · 01-31-2005, 10:31 AM

lol..no..but it is trues that a Lexus is really a Toyota

Phoenix · 01-31-2005, 10:33 AM

you were right to buy a P4..that guy is an ass though if the only way he can upsell you is to lie.

shoulda bought a dell

Dusen · 01-31-2005, 10:34 AM

I believe that used to be the rumor about the old Pentinum II slot 1's. It is most certainly not true now.

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01-30-2005, 09:42 PM	#3
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	You should know better than to listen to a non-commision goofball at Best Buy. Here are the most important similarities and differences between the Pentium 4 and the Celeron chips coming out today: Core - The Celeron chip is based on a Pentium 4 core. Cache - Celeron chips have less cache memory than Pentium 4 chips do. A Celeron might have 128 kilobytes of L2 cache, while a Pentium 4 can have four times that. The amount of L2 cache memory can have a big effect on performance. Clock speed - Intel manufactures the Pentium 4 chips to run at a higher clock speed than Celeron chips. The fastest Pentium 4 might be 60 percent faster than the fastest Celeron. Bus speed - There are differences in the maximum bus speeds that the processors allow. Pentium 4s tend to be about 30 percent faster than Celerons. When you sort all this out and compare the two chips side by side, it turns out that a Celeron and a Pentium 4 chip running at the same speed are different beasts. The smaller L2 cache size and slower bus speeds can mean serious performance differences depending on what you want to do with your computer. If all you do is check e-mail and browse the Web, the Celeron is fine, and the price difference can save you a lot of money. If you want the fastest machine you can buy, then you need to go with the Pentium 4 to get the highest clock speeds and the fastest system bus.

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jeffrey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,864	lol they might not be on commission but they get a bonus for selling x number of warranties. The OLD celerons were rejected pentium chips. the new ones are just made to lower standards. and not as fast. __________________ Coming Soon!

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Icon Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The watercooler of life tripping balls with NPH Posts: 1,757	MattO - another question if you don't mind I've been googling this question.... the P4 chip doesn't overheat? at 80 degrees C it regulates the entire system, slowing it down to lower the temp of the fan. so the P4 does not have a max temp? what is acceptable levels? is over 50 C bad? the P3 and P2 chips have detailed specs. I'm new. __________________ Icon Professional Shark Wrestler ICQ: 214 674 095 "I see Brown people"

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01-30-2005, 10:49 PM	#19
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	I get about 6 months out of a computer before I completely destroy it. No I'm not talking about viruses.....I just work the hell out of them. I killed a Celeron based computer in a month. The thing just kept crashing and couldn't handle my photoshop and premiere work.

01-30-2005, 11:16 PM	#20
stev0 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 6,801	No, that's bullshit... the L2 cache is the big difference between Celeron and P3/4.

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lanclandesigns Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Queens, NEW YORK CITY! Posts: 1,372	That IS IN FACT 110% true. My cousin worked for intel for 4 years and he was the dude who wore the big "space suit" and helped put chips together. Celrons are rejected pentium 4 chips that have a few of the whatever the fuck u call it burnt out. __________________ Signature is for sale! ICQ ME 287-017-204

01-30-2005, 11:34 PM	#23
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	bullshit. Total urban myth. celerons were purposely made that way.

01-31-2005, 12:31 AM	#24
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