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  • will76
    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
    • May 2003
    • 18037
    #1

    Pop up blockers... anyone find a way to beat them ?

    Damn, was looking over stats last night and noticed a big drop off in my exit traffic. perfect example of assholes ruining a good thing. If so many people wouldn't have did the "endless loop" of pop ups then it wouldn't have been a big issue and XP wouldn't come installed with a popup blocker in it already turned on.....

    All I am looking to do is 1 pop under, maybe an exit pop up... not trying to piss anyone off, just hate to see money waisted.

    If anyone has found a way around this let me know. I am will to pay $$$ for the info.
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    • Furious_Male
      Doing the grind since 99
      • Oct 2003
      • 16884
      #2
      There are a few methods out there. A search on this board will find you a few. If you have any trouble finding them hit me up.
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        • will76
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          • May 2003
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          #3
          you can search on this board, I thought the search feature was broken ?
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            • buddyjuf
              #4
              Originally posted by will76
              you can search on this board, I thought the search feature was broken ?
              not on the new version

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                • will76
                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                  • May 2003
                  • 18037
                  #5
                  I've been searching, I found some but the don't work.


                  ANYONE have any scripts to beat popup blockers ??????
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                    • jimmyf
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 12651
                      #6
                      this was posted here

                      http://www.earthunplugged.org/aa/
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                        • Mr Dickovitch
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 1070
                          #7
                          People who have gone out of their way to block pop-ups are going to click on your pop-up? For 99% of the population it's like an involuntary process where you right click on the pop-up in the taskbar and close it before it even loads.

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                            • nikad
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2579
                              #8
                              maybe this?

                              okay I personally use their popunder light and it beats xp sp2 beautifully, give it a shot http://www.fpctraffic2.com/webm.cgi?fuzzball
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                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 28609
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Mr Dickovitch
                                  People who have gone out of their way to block pop-ups are going to click on your pop-up? For 99% of the population it's like an involuntary process where you right click on the pop-up in the taskbar and close it before it even loads.


                                  so 1% is still 1%
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                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 28609
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by nikad
                                      okay I personally use their popunder light and it beats xp sp2 beautifully, give it a shot http://www.fpctraffic2.com/webm.cgi?fuzzball
                                      nik

                                      the examples they give dont work

                                      my link above works..
                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                        • KRosh
                                          So Fucking Outlawed
                                          • Nov 2001
                                          • 5114
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by nikad
                                          okay I personally use their popunder light and it beats xp sp2 beautifully, give it a shot http://www.fpctraffic2.com/webm.cgi?fuzzball
                                          nik

                                          Hate to tell you it does not even beat google ..let alone SP2
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                                            • AdultNex
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                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 8985
                                              #12
                                              Insert a popup into a 1x1 Flash movie.

                                              Works like a charm, Smokey uses that method.

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                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 28609
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by AdultNex
                                                  Insert a popup into a 1x1 Flash movie.

                                                  Works like a charm, Smokey uses that method.

                                                  theres a better method..

                                                  see http://earthunplugged.org/aa/111.html
                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                    • will76
                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 18037
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                      theres a better method..

                                                      see http://earthunplugged.org/aa/111.html

                                                      Smokey when I click on the link and exit the page I get the pop, cool! but when i copy source and put it on my page it doesn not. What's the trick ? I copy the source exactly the way it is on the demo site ???

                                                      Thanks
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                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 28609
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by will76
                                                          Smokey when I click on the link and exit the page I get the pop, cool! but when i copy source and put it on my page it doesn not. What's the trick ? I copy the source exactly the way it is on the demo site ???

                                                          Thanks

                                                          which code ??

                                                          the one you quoted or the exit one..

                                                          the one you quoted is a popup not an exit pop

                                                          the exit script needs the .js file on that page
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                                                            • will76
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                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 18037
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Mr Dickovitch
                                                              People who have gone out of their way to block pop-ups are going to click on your pop-up? For 99% of the population it's like an involuntary process where you right click on the pop-up in the taskbar and close it before it even loads.

                                                              Not everyone, people dont go out of there way to prevent popups. People do Windows updates or downloads for programs and stupid tool bars are installed on their pc's with popup blockers on it. The damn popup blockers are forced on people more now then pop ups. Or people just buy XP and it comes standard with popup blocker. So "people" (most anyway) are not installing popup blockers, certainly not 99% of the population. Still a lot of money to be made with exits and what I prefer more, pop unders.
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                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                  • 28609
                                                                  #17
                                                                  this example

                                                                  http://www.earthunplugged.org/aa/2.html

                                                                  uses this file ( right click save target as )

                                                                  http://www.earthunplugged.org/aa/stb.js
                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                    • Dagwolf
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                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                      • 23141
                                                                      #18
                                                                      There must be a way to bet them... At least, tons of them get through my google toolbar.

                                                                      I don't use them much, myself.
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                                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                          • 28609
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by will76
                                                                          Not everyone, people dont go out of there way to prevent popups. People do Windows updates or downloads for programs and stupid tool bars are installed on their pc's with popup blockers on it. The damn popup blockers are forced on people more now then pop ups. Or people just buy XP and it comes standard with popup blocker. So "people" (most anyway) are not installing popup blockers, certainly not 99% of the population. Still a lot of money to be made with exits and what I prefer more, pop unders.

                                                                          some good points there.. heres another..

                                                                          nobody like t.v. commercials , but i bet nobody could say they haven't bought something , purely because of an ad on tv.
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                                                                            • will76
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                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 18037
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                              which code ??

                                                                              the one you quoted or the exit one..

                                                                              the one you quoted is a popup not an exit pop

                                                                              the exit script needs the .js file on that page

                                                                              this one: http://www.earthunplugged.org/aa/2.html works for me online but not when i put it on my pages... ? thanks
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                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                  • 28609
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by will76
                                                                                  this one: http://www.earthunplugged.org/aa/2.html works for me online but not when i put it on my pages... ? thanks

                                                                                  snag that .js file i posted above and modify to fit your needs
                                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                    • will76
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                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 18037
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                      some good points there.. heres another..

                                                                                      nobody like t.v. commercials , but i bet nobody could say they haven't bought something , purely because of an ad on tv.

                                                                                      Or how about this example " Would you like to biggie size that ? " etc... that's a pop up no different, upsell same thing. If someone voluntarly comes to my site, what is wrong with me giving them a couple different things to choose from. No different then anything else.
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                                                                                        • broke
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                                                                                          • Aug 2003
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          smokey's being patient with a retard that can't even view source and find the .js file...

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                                                                                            • will76
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                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 18037
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                              snag that .js file i posted above and modify to fit your needs

                                                                                              AHHH I see now. I missed that it was referencing the js file when i orginally looked at the source code. Cool, trying it out now.


                                                                                              NOW, I hate to sound greedy, but anyone have a pop under script ? Would love to get my hands on one of those as well.

                                                                                              Thanks for your help Smokey, you ever need anything let me know.
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                                                                                                • will76
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by broke
                                                                                                  smokey's being patient with a retard that can't even view source and find the .js file...

                                                                                                  RETARD " DEEEZ NUTS"!!!!
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                                                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                      • 28609
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                      AHHH I see now. I missed that it was referencing the js file when i orginally looked at the source code. Cool, trying it out now.


                                                                                                      NOW, I hate to sound greedy, but anyone have a pop under script ? Would love to get my hands on one of those as well.

                                                                                                      Thanks for your help Smokey, you ever need anything let me know.
                                                                                                      Just use the popup i provided 111.html , and on the page that pops up add onload="blur()" and it will go behind the main page
                                                                                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                                                          • 28609
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          also add onblur="blur()" so it always hides behind
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                                                                                                            • will76
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              You the man, thanks for helping a retard!

                                                                                                              If I can ever be of any help let me know.
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                                                                                                                • broke
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                                                                                                                  • 4501
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                                  RETARD " DEEEZ NUTS"!!!!

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                                                                                                                    • AdultNex
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                      • 8985
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Btw Smokey, do you have an IE + SP2 and Firefox popup script?

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                                                                                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                          • 28609
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by AdultNex
                                                                                                                          Btw Smokey, do you have an IE + SP2 and Firefox popup script?

                                                                                                                          yup its on that page

                                                                                                                          http://www.earthunplugged.org/aa/fire.html

                                                                                                                          but they must have flash installed or it wont work
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                                                                                                                            • Fatalspeed
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                                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                              • 2101
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              people hate them, popups are dying and wont last much longer..
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                                                                                                                                • will76
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fatalspeed
                                                                                                                                  people hate them, popups are dying and wont last much longer..

                                                                                                                                  LOL if you say so....
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                                                                                                                                    • latinasojourn
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                                                      AHHH I see now. I missed that it was referencing the js file when i orginally looked at the source code. Cool, trying it out now.


                                                                                                                                      NOW, I hate to sound greedy, but anyone have a pop under script ? Would love to get my hands on one of those as well.

                                                                                                                                      Thanks for your help Smokey, you ever need anything let me know.

                                                                                                                                      insert in head:

                                                                                                                                      <script language"JavaScript">

                                                                                                                                      <!--
                                                                                                                                      brandnew=window.open('http://www.modify-as-you-want.html,'_med','resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes,too lbar=yes,location=no,directories=no,status=no,menu bar=no');
                                                                                                                                      brandnew.blur();
                                                                                                                                      // -->

                                                                                                                                      </script>

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                                                                                                                                        • DEA - banned for life
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          they usually stop once i turn off my computer...sometimes they dont though

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                                                                                                                                            • BlingDaddy
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                              so 1% is still 1%
                                                                                                                                              Yeah.... but of those 1% how many click or even s/u?
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                                                                                                                                                • Rorschach
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  thanks smokey good stuff

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                                                                                                                                                    • Spiegelau
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                                                                      You the man, thanks for helping a retard!

                                                                                                                                                      If I can ever be of any help let me know.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Iron Fist
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                                                                          Or how about this example " Would you like to biggie size that ? " etc... that's a pop up no different, upsell same thing. If someone voluntarly comes to my site, what is wrong with me giving them a couple different things to choose from. No different then anything else.
                                                                                                                                                          I don't think so. If I was to use your analogy, to biggie size it would be to crosssell another trial site when your already at the signup page.

                                                                                                                                                          A popup is intrusive advertising - plain and simple - you can't argue the efforts people have made to get rid of them, and people don't trust them at all, everytime people talk about popups, they directly relate it to spyware.

                                                                                                                                                          It's the same reason why I stopped using popups completely across my entire network - I'd rather not piss off the 90% of surfers who come back because I have empowered them to make their own choice for purchasing a membership, instead of trying to force the flavour of the week down their throats.

                                                                                                                                                          i like waffles

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                                                                                                                                                            • Iron Fist
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Oh and I forgot to mention, that popup javascript - when people have noscript installed and the site isn't whitelisted in Firefox, nothing happens.
                                                                                                                                                              i like waffles

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                                                                                                                                                                • will76
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sharphead
                                                                                                                                                                  Oh and I forgot to mention, that popup javascript - when people have noscript installed and the site isn't whitelisted in Firefox, nothing happens.
                                                                                                                                                                  I am going to wait 2 years and reply back to you
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                                                                                                                                                                    • swampthing
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      why dont you check some of the hacker forums for this info?

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Thurbs
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          good stuff smokey .. know alot of people happy with that script.

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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                                                                                                  Damn, was looking over stats last night and noticed a big drop off in my exit traffic. perfect example of assholes ruining a good thing. If so many people wouldn't have did the "endless loop" of pop ups then it wouldn't have been a big issue and XP wouldn't come installed with a popup blocker in it already turned on.....

                                                                                                                                                                                  All I am looking to do is 1 pop under, maybe an exit pop up... not trying to piss anyone off, just hate to see money waisted.

                                                                                                                                                                                  If anyone has found a way around this let me know. I am will to pay $$$ for the info.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I only have one question. Whats a popup?

                                                                                                                                                                                  A few bad apples ruined a good thing. Its been so long sice I was bombarded with an endless popup hell that really almost forgot what it was.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Silly Guy
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      oh my.....trolling seems to have evolved to be a full time job

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • mattz
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                                          the examples they give dont work

                                                                                                                                                                                          my link above works..
                                                                                                                                                                                          your link above? What is your other nick jimmyf? hmm

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Thurbs - NichedSites
                                                                                                                                                                                                  good stuff smokey .. know alot of people happy with that script.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Does the flash popup method still work?? If so, How could I get my hands on a couple? I will pay. Hit me up on ICQ or fizuct at gmail
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • NTM
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1087
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      hey asshole, has it ever occurred to you that people who use popup blockers aren't interested in your exits?


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