I wonder: if the Aids Virus was man made.

[Head]

Created by Neo-Natis to kill gays and Blacks. If you look at history: you hear of syphilis and other STD's. But this one came out of no where!

Discuss.

[Head]

Lots of bad shit in this world!

[Dirty-Dough]

Fucking bullshit.. Post your conspiracies somewhere else...

[flashfire]

didnt some dude screw a monkey and thats how it started

[Rantan]

im not sure of the numbers, but i know back like 80 years ago, doctors studied the effects of syphilis on black men, something like 600 men died as a result. they believed that syphilis effected the mind differently then in white people.

[brizzad]

it was made in 1969 by the u.s. government and released in africa(in various drug vaccines) and new york/los angeles/san fransisco in hopes of taking out a majority of the black and gay population

the cure(along with cures to various other diseases(cancer?)), that the government holds, will not be released until the world's population is under control

[Worldnet]

Hmmmm That basically infurs that black folks can't control there sex drive.

[Dirty F]

What are natis?

[sweetME]

Nooo, aids came from monkeys, which were infected by having sex with anything moving.

[mardigras]

Originally Posted by brizzad

it was made in 1969 by the u.s. government and released in africa(in various drug vaccines) and new york/los angeles/san fransisco in hopes of taking out a majority of the black and gay population

the cure(along with cures to various other diseases(cancer?)), that the government holds, will not be released until the world's population is under control

If I were going to buy into conspiracy stories that the government created AIDS, I'd be more inclined to believe the reason they didn't release a cure after it got out of hand is because like most things they fucked up and forgot to take into consideration that their creation was a virus and would continue to mutate

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Head

Created by Neo-Natis to kill gays and Blacks. If you look at history: you hear of syphilis and other STD's. But this one came out of no where!

Discuss.

Lean how to speil first.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Created by Neo-Natis to kill gays and Blacks. If you look at history: you hear of syphilis and other STD's. But this one came out of no where!

Of course it was you fucken idiot.

[rollinOn20s]

Yes, there are rumors that the US government did start AIDS, as well as distributing crack to black people. And they will never realease the cure to AIDS or CANCER, nothing to do with population issues, but more to do with $$$$$$$$$. Can you imagine how much money and how many jobs would be lost if they did that, realease a cure. Whos kidding who, these diseases and problems will probably be around as long as the world itself.

[Wiggles]

Originally Posted by Worldnet

Hmmmm That basically infurs that black folks can't control there sex drive.

in africa that is almost the case, if you understand their culture, they produce children for government bonuses, so rates of reproduction were huge.

[XxXotic]

Originally Posted by brizzad

it was made in 1969 by the u.s. government and released in africa(in various drug vaccines) and new york/los angeles/san fransisco in hopes of taking out a majority of the black and gay population

the cure(along with cures to various other diseases(cancer?)), that the government holds, will not be released until the world's population is under control

it was actually a failed attempt at a biological weapon, as for a cure, never happen... there's no money in a cure, all the money is in the treatments. They'll just find a way to allow us to live semi-normal lives (with the use of a fairly expensive regiment of pills) with the disease before they actually cure it.

[Head]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Created by Neo-Natis to kill gays and Blacks. If you look at history: you hear of syphilis and other STD's. But this one came out of no where!

Of course it was you fucken idiot.

[reynold]

Yes, maybe. Where could have this virus come from? Nature? It must be man-made.

[ADL Colin]

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by reynold

Yes, maybe. Where could have this virus come from? Nature? It must be man-made.

No god forbid nature would make viruses! Must be man made!

[BRISK]

As a form of population control, AIDS isn't extremely effective. In the past 25 years, it has only killed about 25 million people.

That might sound like a big number, but relative to earth's population, it's very small.

[Dirty Dane]

Probably Bush that started it

[ADL Colin]

All the other viruses in world history showed up just fine without man's involvement.

[bigdog]

i wouldn't put it pass some drug company to come out with their own type of virus these days, and a cure to come along with it

[dcortez]

Silly conspiracy theories aside, it is a verifiable fact that the Regan administration knowingly ignored the serious nature of hiv/aids when it first started cropping up in america in the early 80s.

In fact, hiv/aids proliferated at an incredible rate, much due to the ignorance (not to mention the morally richeous indignance) and willingness to let it run its course (on the belief that it was a 'gay' disease and 'those' people had it coming).

Now it is a serious epidemic that affects heterosexual christians too.

The same brilliant 'management team' which allowed a disease like hiv/aids to get so out of control because of its moral beliefs is now trying to 'democratize' the rest of the planet based on similar moral values.

What surprises me more is that, as counterintuitive as these mindsets are from a rational perspective, in the last US election, more than half of the american voting populus seemed to endorse the continuation of this style of lunacy.

Strange days ahead...

-Dino

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by dcortez

Silly conspiracy theories aside, it is a verifiable fact that the Regan administration knowingly ignored the serious nature of hiv/aids when it first started cropping up in america in the early 80s.

In fact, hiv/aids proliferated at an incredible rate, much due to the ignorance (not to mention the morally richeous indignance) and willingness to let it run its course (on the belief that it was a 'gay' disease and 'those' people had it coming).

Now it is a serious epidemic that affects heterosexual christians too.

The same brilliant 'management team' which allowed a disease like hiv/aids to get so out of control because of its moral beliefs is now trying to 'democratize' the rest of the planet based on similar moral values.

What surprises me more is that, as counterintuitive as these mindsets are from a rational perspective, in the last US election, more than half of the american voting populus seemed to endorse the continuation of this style of lunacy.

Strange days ahead...

-Dino

So you blame the US government for the spread of AIDS? How about blaming the europeans for the plague or the Chinese for SARS? Damned native americans let smallpox get out of control.

Everyone was ignorant in the beginning.

1982. Less than 1000 AIDs deaths in US. $2.6 million in US funding for AIDS research

1983. CDC undertakes case study. Mode of transmission not discovered yet
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001257.htm
HIV link reported later that year

1985. First international AIDs conference held in Atlanta
Congress approves $70 million to AIDS research. HIV antibody test approved.

1987. Reagan calls AIDS "public enemy number one". AZT approved

Federal funding for HIV/AIDS doubled nearly every year from 1982 to 1989.

[Kapitan Ivanov II]

George W Bush invented AIDS, and sent it back in time for testing purposes.

[project_naughty]

Christ. There are some idiots in this thread.

The Human Immuno-deficiency Virus is a mutation of the Simian Immuno-defiency Virus, which affects certain other primates.

The outer coating of protein polypeptides frequently changes due to mutation of the virus RNA, therefore making it very difficult to manufacture a permanent vaccine.

The virus does not discriminate against who it infects on grounds of race, colour or sexual orientation - it will infect any human who does not have natural immunity.

The virus is spread primarily by IV drug users sharing needles, blood transfusions of infected blood and practicers of sex without condoms.

The reason the virus at first infected many gay people was that anal sex creates lesions on the anus which allow the virus to enter the blood.

The reason that the virus infected so many black Africans was that their promiscuous sexual practices played right into the virus' hands and that local superstition and poor education kept them from changing those practices.

*** I haven't studied biology for 15 years so there may be a few errors in the above.

[Rui]

I don't buy your theory but I personaly suspect that AIDS has human had written all over it!

[felipeav]

Originally Posted by sweetME

Nooo, aids came from monkeys, which were infected by having sex with anything moving.

we know that man
haven't u read the thread tittle? IF!

[dcortez]

Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

So you blame the US government for the spread of AIDS?

No - I'm accusing it (based on its historical record) of choosing not to do anything significant about it until several years after it was already recognized as a serious problem. It had the means, but the executive in place chose not to deal with the problem as rigorously as would have been had it not been biased by its moral perspective.

How this (deliberate delay in action) could NOT result in an exponentially larger population of infected americans (gay and straight) is diificult to rationalize.

To add some perspective:

In the past two years, the us government has spent about 300 BILLION dollars on a war they started based on deception and blatent lies.

On the other hand, the death toll from hiv/aids related infection is orders of magnitude higher than all those killed by 'the axis of evil' (and its avengers).

Dropping $70 million on a disease several years late in the game (as usual in american history - eg. WW2) does not quite cut it.

-Dino

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by dcortez

Dropping $70 million on a disease several years late in the game (as usual in american history - eg. WW2) does not quite cut it.

In the past two years, the us government has spent about 300 BILLION dollars on a war they started based on deception and blatent lies.

-Dino

That "perspective" is nonsense. Wars cost more than diseases. They are not comparable. You might as well compare the cost of an public roads with the cost of healthcare. No point there. World War I cost the US $26 Billion. Congress aproved $1 million in special funding for the 1918 flu in 1918. What conclusion can one draw from that given the losses from each?

During World War II US debt rose to greater than it's entire GDP.

[split-joel]

Hmmm, AIDS could of been man made but then again does it really matter even if it was, it wouldnt make a differnce "we" the common peeps wont have a cure for a long time.

[Manowar]

Originally Posted by brizzad

(cancer?))

Cancer isnt man made, but man caused. Because of so many things nowdays emitting radiation, and mutating cells - causing the body to reject them.