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Damian_Maxcash · 01-27-2005, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

The USA if the most wealthy country...by a large margin. China will not reach the current wealth or military power of the US in 10-15 years...let alone surpass us. At some point in time it may or a united Europe may but it will not be in my life time or yours.

I dont know where u get this 'wealthy' shit from

I could borrow a couple of million from the bank, but would I be rich?

What the US is doing is not sustainable.... It will all have to be paid back one day, and what are you going to use, your oil?

Sorry I meant Iraq's oil......

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Exactly...I am one of the majority...but I did not vote for the President this time or the first time. I am not a fan of the President...but he is no different than any other President in my life time. I have had my disagreements with all of their policies.

That should read...I have had disagreements with some of the policies of all of the Presidents.

DWB · 01-27-2005, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironhorse

You're wrong actually. China has learned over the millenniums that the way to stay competitive in a global ratrace is by not overextending yourself..

You are correct, but they won't over extend. They won't need to. All they have to do is keep expanding the way they are now. They already have the military.

Ironhorse · 01-27-2005, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

I dont know where u get this 'wealthy' shit from

I could borrow a couple of million from the bank, but would I be rich?

What the US is doing is not sustainable.... It will all have to be paid back one day, and what are you going to use, your oil?

Sorry I meant Iraq's oil......

Wealthy in resources, and yes there is oil here still and natural gas, plenty arable land to feed the whole world, minerals, metals, etc...

BRISK · 01-27-2005, 03:14 AM

I fully believe that China's economy will equal that of America's and the European Union in 15 years, and even less time if America's current financial situation continues or gets worse.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

I dont know where u get this 'wealthy' shit from

I could borrow a couple of million from the bank, but would I be rich?

What the US is doing is not sustainable.... It will all have to be paid back one day, and what are you going to use, your oil?

Sorry I meant Iraq's oil......

The US can pay off its entire National Debt in any four year period if it chooses to. The foreign debt that it carries is miniscule compared to the overall National Debt. In addition debt is meaningless as long as the GNP grows at a faster rate than debt. To KISS if you are carrying debt and your income increases you can carry addtional debt if you choose to. The GNP continues to outgrow debt thus the US can safely carry more debt.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

I fully believe that China's economy will equal that of America's and the European Union in 15 years, and even less time if America's current financial situation continues or gets worse.

What makes you think that the current financial situation is a problem. The world still envies the GNP growth of the US.

DWB · 01-27-2005, 03:21 AM

Luxembourg is #1 for wealth. USA is #2. (GDP)

GNP?

nico-t · 01-27-2005, 03:23 AM

it amazes me how stubborn bush supporters are... No matter how many things is wrong about the leadership of bush, no matter how long he is fucking his people up the ass, no matter how much it all costs you, you still walk behind his ass getting annoyed by people without blindfolds telling you straight how it is: bush is one of the biggest mistakes in american history.
Please wake up, i just cant believe anyone that crazy to really stand behind bush... Very weird.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Luxembourg is #1 for wealth. USA is #2. (GDP)

GNP?

Pigshit.

DWB · 01-27-2005, 03:26 AM

GNP:

1. Luxembourg
2. Switzerland
3. Japan
4. Liechtenstein
5. Norway

BRISK · 01-27-2005, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

What makes you think that the current financial situation is a problem. The world still envies the GNP growth of the US.

I'm concerned that rising debt will lead to higher interest rates sending the US economy into the shitter.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

GNP:

1. Luxembourg
2. Switzerland
3. Japan
4. Liechtenstein
5. Norway

Pigshit...educate yourself.

DWB · 01-27-2005, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

Look it up yourself man. I didn't make the reports, I just read them.

Then check out the GNP... Not even in the top 5.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

I'm concerned that rising debt will lead to higher interest rates sending the US economy into the shitter.

I am satisfied that interests rates will rise...and lower as has always been the case and the economy has never gone in the "shitter" since 1929. The economy flucuates to some extent but I do not think there has ever been a no growth period since the depression...an maybe not even then.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Look it up yourself man. I didn't make the reports, I just read them.

Then check out the GNP... Not even in the top 5.

Like I said...educate yourself. Never mind...I will educate you. You are using per capita figures...not a nations GNP.

Joe Citizen · 01-27-2005, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

What makes you think that the current financial situation is a problem. The world still envies the GNP growth of the US.

No we don't. Well not Australia anyway.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_gdp_gro_dur_199

BRISK · 01-27-2005, 03:32 AM

IMO, per capita GDP isn't a very accurate way of determing the average wealth of a country's citizens.

Wealth isn't distributed evenly, and in the case of America, wealth is very unbalanced.

Damian_Maxcash · 01-27-2005, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit...educate yourself.

http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GNIPC.pdf

The US comes in 5th on this one

I think the World Bank would have a clue......

DWB · 01-27-2005, 03:34 AM

There is no point even debating with guy who has "The good old USA!!!" listed for his location. That sums it all up. And that's the grand thing about freedom... is that we are all entitled to our own opinion as long as it does not get in the way of what our leaders think is best for us.

TheKing: You win, the reports are wrong and I'm a monkey with no education. I'm going to sleep now to dream about Japanese schoolgirls pooping on my chest.

Have a good night cowboy.

sonofsam · 01-27-2005, 03:34 AM

hahahahha in that picture of bush... look in his left eye.. ITS RON JEREMY!!!!

BRISK · 01-27-2005, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

I am satisfied that interests rates will rise...and lower as has always been the case and the economy has never gone in the "shitter" since 1929. The economy flucuates to some extent but I do not think there has ever been a no growth period since the depression...an maybe not even then.

There has never been a time in US history with economic conditions such as they are now.

With the amount of debt that exists now, it's not enough to simply have economic growth, there needs to be consistent and significan't economic growth to manage the growing debt burden. Higher interest rates will slow economic growth, and for right now, interest rates are only going one way...up.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

There is no point even debating with guy who has "The good old USA!!!" listed for his location. That sums it all up. And that's the grand thing about freedom... is that we are all entitled to our own opinion as long as it does not get in the way of what our leaders think is best for us.

TheKing: You win, the reports are wrong and I'm a monkey with no education. I'm going to sleep now to dream about Japanese schoolgirls pooping on my chest.

Have a good night cowboy.

One report about Nations GNP for 2004...their are others.

GNP ($ mill)
1 United States 10,945,792
2 Japan 4,389,791
3 Germany 2,084,631
4 United Kingdom 1,680,300
5 France 1,523,025
6 China 1,417,301
7 Italy 1,242,978
8 Canada 756,770
9 Spain 698,208
10 Mexico 637,159
Source: World Bank [1] (http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GNI.pdf)

Gross National Product (GNP) is the total value of final goods and services produced in a year by domestically owned factors of production.

OneHungLo · 01-27-2005, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

GNP:

1. Luxembourg
2. Switzerland
3. Japan
4. Liechtenstein
5. Norway

GNP Top 10 (2004)
1 United States 10,945,792
2 Japan 4,389,791
3 Germany 2,084,631
4 United Kingdom 1,680,300
5 France 1,523,025
6 China 1,417,301
7 Italy 1,242,978
8 Canada 756,770
9 Spain 698,208
10 Mexico 637,159

GDP Top 10 (2004)
1 United States 10,881,609
2 Japan 4,326,444
3 Germany 2,400,655
4 United Kingdom 1,794,858
5 France 1,747,973
6 Italy 1,465,895
7 China 1,409,852
8 Spain 836,100
9 Canada 834,390
10 Mexico 626,080

Rui · 01-27-2005, 03:42 AM

I'm starting to fell sorry for you...

BRISK · 01-27-2005, 03:43 AM

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/.../2001rank.html

Joe Citizen · 01-27-2005, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

One report about Nations GNP for 2004...their are others.

GNP ($ mill)
1 United States 10,945,792
2 Japan 4,389,791
3 Germany 2,084,631
4 United Kingdom 1,680,300
5 France 1,523,025
6 China 1,417,301
7 Italy 1,242,978
8 Canada 756,770
9 Spain 698,208
10 Mexico 637,159
Source: World Bank [1] (http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GNI.pdf)

Gross National Product (GNP) is the total value of final goods and services produced in a year by domestically owned factors of production.

Those figures mean nothing unless presented per capita you mongoloid.

Are you a complete moron, pill popper?

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

GNP Top 10 (2004)
1 United States 10,945,792
2 Japan 4,389,791
3 Germany 2,084,631
4 United Kingdom 1,680,300
5 France 1,523,025
6 China 1,417,301
7 Italy 1,242,978
8 Canada 756,770
9 Spain 698,208
10 Mexico 637,159

GDP Top 10 (2004)
1 United States 10,881,609
2 Japan 4,326,444
3 Germany 2,400,655
4 United Kingdom 1,794,858
5 France 1,747,973
6 Italy 1,465,895
7 China 1,409,852
8 Spain 836,100
9 Canada 834,390
10 Mexico 626,080

Puts into perspective the overwhelming wealth of the USA...now doesn't it?

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Those figures mean nothing unless presented per capita you mongoloid.

Are you a complete moron, pill popper?

Brain fucking dead...aren't you druggy?

BRISK · 01-27-2005, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Those figures mean nothing unless presented per capita you mongoloid.

Are you a a complete moron, pill popper?

I don't even think per capita means much if you're trying to compare the average wealth of countries citizens.

wealth is not distributed evenly, and in some countries it is much less even than others

nico-t · 01-27-2005, 03:45 AM

like i said: bush supporters are too blinded and too stubborn to have a normal convo about politics with. Every bush supporter is this way, EVERY one of em, it's like they're really brainwashed.
Plastic turkeys for thanksgiving, air photos with yellow-circled trucks as proof for nuclear weapons, lies. Strange for ppl to still stand behind bush ????

Joe Citizen · 01-27-2005, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Brain fucking dead...aren't you druggy?

Global National Income-GNI (GNP) per Capita (Head)

2002 2003
$ $
Luxembourg 39470 43940
Norway 38730
43350
Switzerland 36170 39880
United States 35400 37610
Japan 34010 34510
Denmark 30260 33750
Iceland 27960 30810
High income: OECD 27240 29310
High income 26550 28550
Sweden 25970 28840
United Kingdom 25490 28350
Hong Kong, China 24500 25430
Finland 23890 27020
Austria 23860 26720
Netherlands 23390 26310
Ireland 23030 26960
Belgium 22940 25820
Germany 22740 25250
Canada 22390 23930
France 22240 24770
Singapore 21180 21230
European Monetary Union 20320 22850
Australia 19530 21650
Italy 19080 21560
Kuwait 16340 ..
Israel 16020 ..

Joe Citizen · 01-27-2005, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

I don't even think per capita means much if you're trying to compare the average wealth of countries citizens.

wealth is not distributed evenly, and in some countries it is much less even than others

No, but it's a better indicator than total GNP with population not taken into account at all.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:48 AM

I saw a report a few days ago that California has the fifth largest GNP in the world.

BRISK · 01-27-2005, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

I saw a report a few days ago that California has the fifth largest GNP in the world.

Why do you keep talking about GNP? Most economist use GDP as a measure to discuss economic size and growth.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

No, but it's a better indicator than total GNP with population not taken into account at all.

You poor envious druggy. You simply cannot admit that the USA is the wealthiest country on the earth...by a very large margin.

Damian_Maxcash · 01-27-2005, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Puts into perspective the overwhelming wealth of the USA...now doesn't it?

Thats fine... but your budget deficit is forcast at over 1.3 trillion

As I said, that is not sustainable

I could earn millions, but if I cant pay my bills Im fucked

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

Why do you keep talking about GNP? Most economist use GDP as a measure to discuss economic size and growth.

I prefer GNP...but as you can plainly see from the figures that is little difference between GNP and GDP.

theking · 01-27-2005, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Thats fine... but your budget deficit is forcast at over 1.3 trillion

As I said, that is not sustainable

I could earn millions, but if I cant pay my bills Im fucked

Being sustainable...is dependent upon the growth of the GNP and at this point it is not a problem...as debt can be increased as long as the GNP growth allows for an increase. In addition there are ways and means to pay of the entire National Debt in a matter of years if the Government so chooses.

Joe Citizen · 01-27-2005, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

You poor envious druggy. You simply cannot admit that the USA is the wealthiest country on the earth...by a very large margin.

You pathetic deluded old man.

Why on earth would I be envious of the USA when I live in Australia?

We are consistantly rated more livable than the USA and have a higher standrd of living.

nico-t · 01-27-2005, 03:57 AM

everybody drop your work! I just heard the news the US is gonna invade Ireland because of a nuclear weapon threat.
Look at this proof, no way the irish can get away with this:

"This van stood here in the morning, but was gone in the afternoon. We suspect it of transporting weapons of mass destruction because of this. Why we don't know but we find an air photo with a circeled van a totally grounded reason to begin a war and take oil or other energy sources from that country." - C. Rice

Theo · 01-27-2005, 03:59 AM

funny thread

Damian_Maxcash · 01-27-2005, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

Being sustainable...is dependent upon the growth of the GNP and at this point it is not a problem...as debt can be increased as long as the GNP growth allows for an increase. In addition there are ways and means to pay of the entire National Debt in a matter of years if the Government so chooses.

Your National debt is over 70% of your GDP

Your forecast at going 1.3 Trillion over budget .... and at least that for the next decade

Explain to me how this could be paid off?

VIP · 01-27-2005, 04:03 AM

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Want to hear you about Bush when he closes down your business ;)

nico-t · 01-27-2005, 04:05 AM

"so each citizen's share of this debt is $25,802.64"
wow look at that wealth!!

VIP · 01-27-2005, 04:07 AM

"there are ways and means to pay of the entire National Debt in a matter of years if the Government so chooses."

So you guys don't have to eat right ;)

morruga · 01-27-2005, 04:07 AM

I see trees of green, red bloody BUSH
I see him kaboom, for me and you
And I think to myself, what a fucking bastard is bush!!!!

BUSH sucks as TheKing does

we are all on the same boat... so who the fuck are you or your fucking gov to decide among the life of others?

Sometimes i Can't bealive the american people... they claim to be so amazing and powerfull... and they just repeat STUPID patterns... like sending his childs to DEATH (vietnam, now irak... the end of the world)
Becaouse of Georgy's friends of his fucking daddy... family of slowed down mental monkeys.

but on the other side... you just have britney

Joe Citizen · 01-27-2005, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

"so each citizen's share of this debt is $25,802.64"
wow look at that wealth!!

$25,802.67 now.

theking · 01-27-2005, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Your National debt is over 70% of your GDP

Your forecast at going 1.3 Trillion over budget .... and at least that for the next decade

Explain to me how this could be paid off?

The simplest and quickest way is to raise taxes. The American people are the least taxed citizens of the Western world. Just to put it in perspective...Americans spend more on Pizza's every year than many...if not most of the worlds Nation's GNP.

Johny Traffic · 01-27-2005, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by morruga

I see trees of green, red bloody BUSH
I see him kaboom, for me and you
And I think to myself, what a fucking bastard is bush!!!!

BUSH sucks as TheKing does

we are all on the same boat... so who the fuck are you or your fucking gov to decide among the life of others?

Sometimes i Can't bealive the american people... they claim to be so amazing and powerfull... and they just repeat STUPID patterns... like sending his childs to DEATH (vietnam, now irak... the end of the world)
Becaouse of Georgy's friends of his fucking daddy... family of slowed down mental monkeys.

but on the other side... you just have britney

All the major wars in the last century were caused and started by Europeans, Africans & Asians, but mostly Europeans, we have been waring for the last 1000 years with each other. Inclusive obviously of the two great world wars, maybe sometimes people should remember that?

01-27-2005, 03:14 AM	#55
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	I fully believe that China's economy will equal that of America's and the European Union in 15 years, and even less time if America's current financial situation continues or gets worse. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

01-27-2005, 03:21 AM	#58
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Luxembourg is #1 for wealth. USA is #2. (GDP) GNP? Last edited by DWB; 01-27-2005 at 03:22 AM..

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	IMO, per capita GDP isn't a very accurate way of determing the average wealth of a country's citizens. Wealth isn't distributed evenly, and in the case of America, wealth is very unbalanced. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

01-27-2005, 03:34 AM	#70
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	There is no point even debating with guy who has "The good old USA!!!" listed for his location. That sums it all up. And that's the grand thing about freedom... is that we are all entitled to our own opinion as long as it does not get in the way of what our leaders think is best for us. TheKing: You win, the reports are wrong and I'm a monkey with no education. I'm going to sleep now to dream about Japanese schoolgirls pooping on my chest. Have a good night cowboy. Last edited by DWB; 01-27-2005 at 03:36 AM..

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sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,639	hahahahha in that picture of bush... look in his left eye.. ITS RON JEREMY!!!! __________________ I like turtles.

01-27-2005, 03:23 AM	#59
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	it amazes me how stubborn bush supporters are... No matter how many things is wrong about the leadership of bush, no matter how long he is fucking his people up the ass, no matter how much it all costs you, you still walk behind his ass getting annoyed by people without blindfolds telling you straight how it is: bush is one of the biggest mistakes in american history. Please wake up, i just cant believe anyone that crazy to really stand behind bush... Very weird.

01-27-2005, 03:26 AM	#61
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	GNP: 1. Luxembourg 2. Switzerland 3. Japan 4. Liechtenstein 5. Norway

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Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	I'm starting to fell sorry for you...

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/.../2001rank.html __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

01-27-2005, 03:45 AM	#81
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	like i said: bush supporters are too blinded and too stubborn to have a normal convo about politics with. Every bush supporter is this way, EVERY one of em, it's like they're really brainwashed. Plastic turkeys for thanksgiving, air photos with yellow-circled trucks as proof for nuclear weapons, lies. Strange for ppl to still stand behind bush ????

01-27-2005, 03:48 AM	#84
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	I saw a report a few days ago that California has the fifth largest GNP in the world. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

01-27-2005, 03:57 AM	#91
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	everybody drop your work! I just heard the news the US is gonna invade Ireland because of a nuclear weapon threat. Look at this proof, no way the irish can get away with this: "This van stood here in the morning, but was gone in the afternoon. We suspect it of transporting weapons of mass destruction because of this. Why we don't know but we find an air photo with a circeled van a totally grounded reason to begin a war and take oil or other energy sources from that country." - C. Rice

01-27-2005, 03:59 AM	#92
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	funny thread

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	"so each citizen's share of this debt is $25,802.64" wow look at that wealth!!

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morruga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 431	I see trees of green, red bloody BUSH I see him kaboom, for me and you And I think to myself, what a fucking bastard is bush!!!! BUSH sucks as TheKing does we are all on the same boat... so who the fuck are you or your fucking gov to decide among the life of others? Sometimes i Can't bealive the american people... they claim to be so amazing and powerfull... and they just repeat STUPID patterns... like sending his childs to DEATH (vietnam, now irak... the end of the world) Becaouse of Georgy's friends of his fucking daddy... family of slowed down mental monkeys. but on the other side... you just have britney __________________ Wordpress Dev. laravel Dev. Android Native Dev. React Native Dev. Unity VR Dev.