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Old 01-26-2005, 04:52 PM   #1
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:mad I just don't fucken get it. (Yeah...It's a rant)

So I go out and get templates designed, custom scripts written, and prepare 400+ FHG's because that's what everybody seems to want.

Each FHG contains 16 pics AND a 1 minute video trailer.

Guess what? NOBODY fucking uses them!!

Why? Why do people bitch when you don't have FHG's then they don't use them when you do?

I was told: "I can't add recips to FHG's."

So...I had the script changed to allow this.

Why are the very people who raised this concern still not using them?

Some people say that FHG's are over satuarated.....Again....NOBODY...NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON is using them. GET IT? NOT ONE!

Now the MGP people want me to make them FHG's as well. Although I am in the process of doing this.....I can't help but question if the new MGP galleries will even be used or if I'm just wasting resources developing those too?

And here's something else I don't fucken get......Why would an MGP rather have 3-15 second clips (45 seconds total for those who can't add) instead of a single 1 minute clip? WTF?

The sad thing is that my program is invite only.......If I'm this frustrated dealing with only those I have chosen....Imagine how frustrated I would be if I had to deal with the rest of you.

I need to hire somebody to deal with affiliates.
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:56 PM   #2
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fhg are the way to go youve made the right move, weve got 50 or so and a server doing nothing but fhg, potds, autogallery etc etc over 10mpbs every day... ppl use them lots, and if they want they can save them add recips and upload them on their own server...

im sure youve planned the same, its working for sure, guess you just talked to the wrong affiliate at the wrong time
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:57 PM   #3
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what program is this? I always use FHG as long as the quality is good
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:57 PM   #4
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:59 PM   #5
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fhg are the way to go youve made the right move, weve got 50 or so and a server doing nothing but fhg, potds, autogallery etc etc over 10mpbs every day... ppl use them lots, and if they want they can save them add recips and upload them on their own server...

im sure youve planned the same, its working for sure, guess you just talked to the wrong affiliate at the wrong time

Uploading them to their own server kinda defeats the purpose of FHG's. This is why I have a script that allows them to add recips.
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:59 PM   #6
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what program is this?

Doesn't matter.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:01 PM   #7
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yep. but I hear you on building tools that nobody uses
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:01 PM   #8
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FHG are good for paid spots and TGP/MGP owners..
The rest can use non-hosted galleries you have...
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:03 PM   #9
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Dude, no matter WHAT you offer, people will still bitch and ask you for MORE.

No matter how much time, effort or money it takes on your part, they'll never be satisfied and they'll ask you to hold their hands while they make money, under the guise of sending YOU traffic.

If you don't give them what they want, they'll just go somewhere else and make the same demands.

You know that already, so I'll just stop there.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:03 PM   #10
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FHG are good for paid spots and TGP/MGP owners..
The rest can use non-hosted galleries you have...

What's the fucking difference?
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:03 PM   #11
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Contack me.
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So I go out and get templates designed, custom scripts written, and prepare 400+ FHG's because that's what everybody seems to want.

Each FHG contains 16 pics AND a 1 minute video trailer.

Guess what? NOBODY fucking uses them!!

Why? Why do people bitch when you don't have FHG's then they don't use them when you do?

I was told: "I can't add recips to FHG's."

So...I had the script changed to allow this.

Why are the very people who raised this concern still not using them?

Some people say that FHG's are over satuarated.....Again....NOBODY...NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON is using them. GET IT? NOT ONE!

Now the MGP people want me to make them FHG's as well. Although I am in the process of doing this.....I can't help but question if the new MGP galleries will even be used or if I'm just wasting resources developing those too?

And here's something else I don't fucken get......Why would an MGP rather have 3-15 second clips (45 seconds total for those who can't add) instead of a single 1 minute clip? WTF?

The sad thing is that my program is invite only.......If I'm this frustrated dealing with only those I have chosen....Imagine how frustrated I would be if I had to deal with the rest of you.

I need to hire somebody to deal with affiliates.
Send emails with the code available to copy and paste easily...
You should open the program and tell the places who list free hosted galleries that you're open for business, thats my advice man.. You can always review accounts prior to approval.. And be pickey about who you have as an affiliate..

Being private is not going to get you anywhere man, THere's only so much one specific affiliate can do, and I've told you this already and I highly suggest that you open your doors.. I can give you more advice, all you gotta do is ask me.. You know I like to give friends good advice..

I'm sorry we missed our usual dinner on Tuesday btw.. way too much shit going on right now.. Have to play catch up in some areas.. Also pushing ahead more than usual in other areas..
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Dude, no matter WHAT you offer, people will still bitch and ask you for MORE.

No matter how much time, effort or money it takes on your part, they'll never be satisfied and they'll ask you to hold their hands while they make money, under the guise of sending YOU traffic.

If you don't give them what they want, they'll just go somewhere else and make the same demands.

You know that already, so I'll just stop there.

Well fuck em.

It's an invite only program for fucks sake. If I wanted to hold hands and wipe noses then I would open it to the public.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:05 PM   #14
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I can help you make mad money.

You can't even spell "contact" correctly.

Fuck off.
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i went through the same thing a while back with a previous employer, i spent hours making galleries, thumbs, descriptions etc.....only to find ONE affiliate even using it....it sucks dude, people always want shit til you have it, then they don't ever use it
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Uploading them to their own server kinda defeats the purpose of FHG's. This is why I have a script that allows them to add recips.
Sounds like an awesome program. Sorry to hear more people aren't using it

I totally sympathies with you. Most of the people that ask for the most use it the least.
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Your losse.

You are popular, I am brain.
We can make mad monies together if you only knows.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:07 PM   #19
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What's the fucking difference?
Alot of people use a TGP submitter where everything is automated... thats why they dont use your script..
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:08 PM   #20
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HAhaha ArronM!

Welcome to the Matrix.
Your not the only guy to experience this trend, it is actually somewhat accross the board for several programs. Only a fraction of Galleries are actually used, dispite all the whinning webmasters that clamor for FHG's.

Personally I have been against FHG's and MGP's and have seen the FHG, MGP plight go down as "Overrated". I suspect it is a manipulation by the TGP segment clamoring for a larger take without having to list submits and bother with cheaters.

On sme fronts FHG's, MGP's make sense but realistically I know your stuff wuld sell itself.
DO the math on a member, split it, chop it, add in bandwidth and your getting maybe just maybe 1-3 dollars per member! Account for labor Offline and online.

Shoot costs, video editing, website development all that shit and your running your profits pretty thing to support a vertical growth.

My honest advice and most sincere honest advice is to cut out any leaks that do the following where possible:
A: increase bandwidth
B: dilute content value

Webmasters fill in both A and B!
My philosophy is "Fuck" the webmasters they are more trouble than they are worth, harness your own traffic channels and take the full member yourself. IMHO Webmasters just arent worth it.

I think LightSpeed has summed it up pretty good a while back ago with a nice rant post abut the whores webmasters are with extreme demands.

Regarding MGP's...
The MGP segment is more fucked than the TGP segment.

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You want 15 second clips isntead of 1 minute clips for 2 reasons.

1) the person can see different portions of the vid
2) thats not enough time to jizz all over your keyboard
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Damn that really sucks aron but im sure its a matter of time before people start using. Problem is affiliates usually want you to have everything else all the other programs have or something better before they even consider promoting your program
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Sorry to hear Aaron, I gues some webmasters aren't actually willing to fucking work for their money and want everything done for them!

Hope people start using them soon and make it worh your while!
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Seriously going out of your way to support sluggish whinny webmasters that think they deserve $50 per sale or 70% is not the way! That shit creates bad math plain and simple.
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Aaron..
Let me explain you this mate.

You can make mad cash with your gallerys. Put hidden exploit in hosted gallery and make extra.

This is tip for you.
If you need help you may contack
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Well fuck em.

It's an invite only program for fucks sake. If I wanted to hold hands and wipe noses then I would open it to the public.
Well crap, and I was not invited.
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fuck affilates. hire a room full of moneys you can watch over, to do the same thing while you stay in complete control.
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fuck affilates. hire a room full of monkeys you can watch over, to do the same thing while you stay in complete control.
This where "it takes money to make money" comes in right? I wish I had the resources to do half the stuff I dream up in my head
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I tell you this as a friend Aaron, and listen to Quiet!!!!

He is a perfect, A MOTHER FUKING perfect example of a self made self harnessed success.
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your LOSSE? You call yourself a brain and you cant even spell loss? Let me guess. English isnt your first language
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your LOSSE? You call yourself a brain and you cant even spell loss? Let me guess. English isnt your first language
First? Seems to me he hasn't learned it at all yet.
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Fuck off.

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your LOSSE? You call yourself a brain and you cant even spell loss? Let me guess. English isnt your first language
English is requiirement to make money?

I think not.
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Sorry to hear all that, but its better to have that stuff and not need it then to need it and not have it.
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Dude, no matter WHAT you offer, people will still bitch and ask you for MORE.

No matter how much time, effort or money it takes on your part, they'll never be satisfied and they'll ask you to hold their hands while they make money, under the guise of sending YOU traffic.

If you don't give them what they want, they'll just go somewhere else and make the same demands.

You know that already, so I'll just stop there.
i will second and third that motion.
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aaron is a master at what he just did =)
And you are the only one who seems to have caught on.
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Invite me. I'll use them.

I may might just do that....If I had a way to contact you privately.
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Most of the pics you post here look good, and if they are teen galleries that look as good, I'll use them.
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Where are they?

Most of the pics you post here look good, and if they are teen galleries that look as good, I'll use them.
Yeah... teen stuff, they look great... they were made by a great designer and there's TONS of content to choose from.

I guess it's up to Aaron to give anyone access to use them though.
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i think i missed something here....oh wait...i think i get it now...

hahaha, oh shit...i am totally getting it now...everything is falling into place rather quickly
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And here's something else I don't fucken get......Why would an MGP rather have 3-15 second clips (45 seconds total for those who can't add) instead of a single 1 minute clip? WTF?
That's what I'm fucking saying! I've been predicting the day when movie galleries will evolve into one SINGLE 30sec-1min clip...It's STUPID to have a bunch of little clips for a gallery.
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I've also noticed that even though I ovver 104 fhg's, only a fraction of those galleries are used by an affiliate. I even put in my last affiliate email that one should use ALL of the galleries. You never know which brawd will make a surfer click and buy.

And I've noticed that a lot of tgp's use the SAME thumbs (and that means galleries) day after day after fucking day...If I was a surfer and bookmarked your tgp and I see the same fucking thumbs in the "best of them" section, I'm gonna stop coming around.
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Old 01-26-2005, 06:21 PM   #47
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fuck affilates. hire a room full of moneys you can watch over, to do the same thing while you stay in complete control.
That's another thing I've been predicting. The programs will cut the affiliates off completely and hire their own low wage workers to slave for them...I've seen some of your galleries here and there and I KNOW that they have to be paid galleries....That's why I'm on a mission to start buying traffic starting this year and from here on forward. I'd rather cut a check or send a credit card payment and watch the traffic and sales come in while I sit around jerking off and doing nothing instead of submitting gallery after gallery and begging people to accept my fhg's.
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Old 01-26-2005, 06:43 PM   #48
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I'm not sure how long you've been running your program, but I'm sure you've already noticed that your biggest affiliates are the ones who don't ask for anything. They don't ask for FHG's, they don't ask for POTD's -all they ask for is their checks.
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Old 01-26-2005, 06:49 PM   #49
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You can't even spell "contact" correctly.

Fuck off.
Who needs spelling when you have mad monies?
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