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Jace · 01-24-2005, 01:42 AM

watch this thread and read it...OVER AND OVER!

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=421271

thanks for the nice responses Charles

sharpx9 · 01-24-2005, 01:42 AM

WiredGuy · 01-24-2005, 01:43 AM

You're welcome

It's been a long boring weekend so why not...
WG

reynold · 01-24-2005, 01:45 AM

Thanks for that vital info dude!

baddog · 01-24-2005, 01:58 AM

it was well done

01-24-2005, 02:00 AM

Awesome article, interview and responses. The fact that Charles took answers from other people says a lot about him.

Jace · 01-24-2005, 02:01 AM

charles, that is one thing i have always loved about you man...you are a genuinely nice person that just seems to love what you do. you never try and start shit, and i have never heard of you fucking anyone over

you obviously are a truly nice guy with a great soul, and that I can respect

WiredGuy · 01-24-2005, 02:03 AM

Thanks Sherm and Jace. You all are going to make me blush

WG

Tala · 01-24-2005, 02:03 AM

Outstanding. Well done WG!

Nicky · 01-24-2005, 02:04 AM

yep, very nice thread indeed

WiredGuy · 01-24-2005, 10:11 AM

Thanks Tala/Nicky.
WG

brand0n · 01-24-2005, 10:32 AM

ok
where does he offer any newbie help?

all i got outta that was, i send traffic to where i want to send it to, i dont do consulting, no i do not want to help you, i hang out with sleazy... i make alot of money...

tona fuckin help there...
jace, stop ass kissing.

Rui · 01-24-2005, 12:15 PM

Great informative thread indeed, thanks man :D

swami · 01-24-2005, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

ok
where does he offer any newbie help?

all i got outta that was, i send traffic to where i want to send it to, i dont do consulting, no i do not want to help you, i hang out with sleazy... i make alot of money...

tona fuckin help there...
jace, stop ass kissing.

I have found that you can spend days explaining to some people in detail about seo and they wont grasp anything.
Others just a whisper is enough to set their ball rolling.
Which category are you in?

Thanks WG.

Jace · 01-24-2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

ok
where does he offer any newbie help?

all i got outta that was, i send traffic to where i want to send it to, i dont do consulting, no i do not want to help you, i hang out with sleazy... i make alot of money...

tona fuckin help there...
jace, stop ass kissing.

no ass kissing, just expressing an opinion....in fact, wireguy has nothing to really offer me, so not sure where ass kissing would benefit me

as for where he offers help, check out reply #14, #22, #25, #33 and #59

with the answers he gave there and some time someone could easily get VERY good at the SEO game

brand0n · 01-24-2005, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

no ass kissing, just expressing an opinion....in fact, wireguy has nothing to really offer me, so not sure where ass kissing would benefit me

as for where he offers help, check out reply #14, #22, #25, #33 and #59

with the answers he gave there and some time someone could easily get VERY good at the SEO game

14- "read alot" nothing drives google to your site like reading. i just cracked open a decent king and low and behold im all ready flying up the serps.

22-"I get the majority of my traffic from Google although Yahoo converts much better" yep that tidbit surely is going to get most of the noobs here top placement.

25- "Googlebot loves to discover sites through links so make sure you get people to not only link to you" people linking to you eh? boy thats a news flash.

33- "Form linking trades" boohoohhahahah. ya think?

59- "Google doesn't seem to have much relevance based on the domain name anymore." really.... well my biggest supply of traffic to a ton of my 1 word domains is google. some have 0 links to them, and yet google for some reason pipes me a ton of traffic. i guess the google guys like me or something.

ok, so lets put this all together.
read, his traffic comes from google, but yahoo produces better signups, youll need a few people to link to you, youll need a few people to link to you, and google dont care if you own men.com or ineedmenbecouseimintheneedofserpresult.com as long as you... thats right.. get people to link to you.

great read

swami · 01-24-2005, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

14- "read alot" nothing drives google to your site like reading. i just cracked open a decent king and low and behold im all ready flying up the serps.

22-"I get the majority of my traffic from Google although Yahoo converts much better" yep that tidbit surely is going to get most of the noobs here top placement.

25- "Googlebot loves to discover sites through links so make sure you get people to not only link to you" people linking to you eh? boy thats a news flash.

33- "Form linking trades" boohoohhahahah. ya think?

59- "Google doesn't seem to have much relevance based on the domain name anymore." really.... well my biggest supply of traffic to a ton of my 1 word domains is google. some have 0 links to them, and yet google for some reason pipes me a ton of traffic. i guess the google guys like me or something.

ok, so lets put this all together.
read, his traffic comes from google, but yahoo produces better signups, youll need a few people to link to you, youll need a few people to link to you, and google dont care if you own men.com or ineedmenbecouseimintheneedofserpresult.com as long as you... thats right.. get people to link to you.

great read

The trouble with wannabee seos like yourself is that you have half a clue and are dangerous to yourself.A little knowledge and you think you are a champion.
Charles has answered the questions he was asked.
If you have a great incisive question then ask it so that we may all learn.

SEO newbies can take a lot out of this thread and good seos can appreciate the value of it.

WiredGuy · 01-24-2005, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

ok
where does he offer any newbie help?

all i got outta that was, i send traffic to where i want to send it to, i dont do consulting, no i do not want to help you, i hang out with sleazy... i make alot of money...

tona fuckin help there...
jace, stop ass kissing.

Did you even read the thread? I offered quite a few pieces of advice in there and if there's something you wanted answered, you could have tried posting it in that thread. It's not like you made an effort to get any advice other than saying that thread was a waste...

WG

brand0n · 01-24-2005, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swami

The trouble with wannabee seos like yourself is that you have half a clue and are dangerous to yourself.A little knowledge and you think you are a champion.
Charles has answered the questions he was asked.
If you have a great incisive question then ask it so that we may all learn.

SEO newbies can take a lot out of this thread and good seos can appreciate the value of it.

heres the prob with people like you. i read this due to the fact i am an seo noob, and im well aware of that. not for a moment do i think i am a "champion"
in all honestly, id consider myself a huge noob, and that is where your problem lies. i was just pointing out the fact that as far as noob seo questions go, nothing (imho) was covered.
so, take what you think of me and stick it in your right ear.

brand0n · 01-24-2005, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Did you even read the thread? I offered quite a few pieces of advice in there and if there's something you wanted answered, you could have tried posting it in that thread. It's not like you made an effort to get any advice other than saying that thread was a waste...

WG

yes i read the thread, and at no point did i say it was a waste. it was a look into your life. thats really fine and dandy, but besides sounding a bit on the braggin side, where did the noob seo help come into play?

i opened this thread due to the fact it says... noob seo help here. if i woulda known all he was doing was pointing out the life styles of WG then honestly i wouldnt have been in this thread.

as far as something wanted awnsered.. well we all know you are so vague and general (as to hide your stuff, with good reason ofcourse) why even waste my time or yours?

swami · 01-24-2005, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

heres the prob with people like you. i read this due to the fact i am an seo noob, and im well aware of that. not for a moment do i think i am a "champion"
in all honestly, id consider myself a huge noob, and that is where your problem lies. i was just pointing out the fact that as far as noob seo questions go, nothing (imho) was covered.
so, take what you think of me and stick it in your right ear.

Hugs mate.

OzMan · 01-24-2005, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swami

I have found that you can spend days explaining to some people in detail about seo and they wont grasp anything.
Others just a whisper is enough to set their ball rolling.
Which category are you in?

Thanks WG.

Well said, whispers can be golden if you are actually listening.

Brand0n apparently feels obliged to be the token hater to ensure that not a single thread on GFY can be totally positive vibes. I have never seen WG attacking anyone except in self defence and even then he does it with tact. To hate on someone like that puts you at the bottom of the food chain in my book.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-24-2005, 01:18 PM

Actually i thought , although very vague, the answers give just enough for a newb to learn the game.

WG got an icq , i want a word with you.

brand0n · 01-24-2005, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

Well said, whispers can be golden if you are actually listening.

Brand0n apparently feels obliged to be the token hater to ensure that not a single thread on GFY can be totally positive vibes. I have never seen WG attacking anyone except in self defence and even then he does it with tact. To hate on someone like that puts you at the bottom of the food chain in my book.

i dont feel obligated shit. and im not hating on anyone, i was just pointing out that this thread is very deciptive. i dont give a fuck about your food chain, or your book.

how bout this. all you guys can form a line behind WG that way he knows whos next in line to kiss his ass.

SLIMEBALL · 01-24-2005, 02:29 PM

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WiredGuy · 01-24-2005, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

where did the noob seo help come into play?

You could have posted a question or two if you had one.
WG

WiredGuy · 01-24-2005, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

WG got an icq , i want a word with you.

You're already on my icq, i'll send you a message.
WG

Jace · 01-24-2005, 02:34 PM

brand0n, you really need to read deeper into some of the things that were said in that thread....i have been dabbling in SEO for years, and there were some great pointer tips in there for someone who can read between the lines...there were actually a few little secret tips that he said that you can't pick up anywhere else

read between the lines and read it harder, there is a lot of info in there

as for your domain name and google - here is the google results for weed http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=weed where are you?

Jace · 01-24-2005, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

14- "read alot" nothing drives google to your site like reading. i just cracked open a decent king and low and behold im all ready flying up the serps.

read a lot is a good way to learn anything...sorry you can't see that

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

22-"I get the majority of my traffic from Google although Yahoo converts much better" yep that tidbit surely is going to get most of the noobs here top placement.

or maybe that is a good way of saying that instead of spending all your time trying to get high in google and nothing else that yahoo is a better chance of making more money

Quote:

25- "Googlebot loves to discover sites through links so make sure you get people to not only link to you" people linking to you eh? boy thats a news flash.

believe it or not, A LOT of people don't know this....shit dude, there are esatablished webmasters on this board that think because they have a link going out to thehun.com they will get better listings

Quote:

33- "Form linking trades" boohoohhahahah. ya think?

see last answer

Quote:

59- "Google doesn't seem to have much relevance based on the domain name anymore." really.... well my biggest supply of traffic to a ton of my 1 word domains is google. some have 0 links to them, and yet google for some reason pipes me a ton of traffic. i guess the google guys like me or something.

ever think maybe you have traffic because you have tons of links back? check it dude, you have 2400 people linking to your site http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...A+www.weed.com and your site is FULL of keywords and all kinds of nice SEO shit....
what he was saying here is to not spend all your time getting domains free-porn-sex-girls-hot.com, it doesn't play much into your ranking anymore

brand0n · 01-24-2005, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

brand0n, you really need to read deeper into some of the things that were said in that thread....i have been dabbling in SEO for years, and there were some great pointer tips in there for someone who can read between the lines...there were actually a few little secret tips that he said that you can't pick up anywhere else

read between the lines and read it harder, there is a lot of info in there

as for your domain name and google - here is the google results for weed http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=weed where are you?

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 1
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 1
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=smo...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 9
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 1
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=chr...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 3
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=pic...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 4
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 6

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 2

pxxx · 01-24-2005, 02:44 PM

I know being a TOTAL noob in the SEO world, the information WG put on that thread is golden to me. He also mentioned another place to read more about SEO.

Brand0n, when you said "on the braggin side" you are off there. I give WG, even though i do not know him, ALOT of respect because he is one of the few players that do not go around parading how many millions they have made and how we are fucking flys comparing to their wallet. For that, i will always respect him.

Oh yeah, call me an asskisser. I am kissing his ass because he is going to get me number one spot tonight for the term "porn".

Jace · 01-24-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 1
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 1
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=smo...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 9
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 1
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=chr...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 3
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=pic...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 4
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 6

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wee...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt number 2

but we were talking about google...not yahoo

i just did the same searches in google that you posted with VERY different results

and most of those yahoo results are due to proper keywords, linkbacks and tagging...not cause of your domain name

brand0n · 01-24-2005, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

but we were talking about google...not yahoo

i just did the same searches in google that you posted with VERY different results

and most of those yahoo results are due to proper keywords, linkbacks and tagging...not cause of your domain name

thats why i came to this thread in the 1st place. im trying to learn more.

ok i guess the best way for me to have put this, would be. im sorry. i didnt get much outta that post. could you please explain things to me like im a 2 year old, becouse in the seo game, thats about where i stand

that better?

btw jace, pretty jazzy yahoo kws eh?

beergood · 01-24-2005, 03:02 PM

It seems like it would be pretty helpful to someone totally new at seo brand0n. He gave general information answers that people might not know. You'd be suprised. I've been paying my bills via seo for 7 years now and you can get a little jaded.

I would only read it once if I were new though. Not exactly bookmark worthy. (or blowjob worthy jace

)

Jace · 01-24-2005, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

thats why i came to this thread in the 1st place. im trying to learn more.

ok i guess the best way for me to have put this, would be. im sorry. i didnt get much outta that post. could you please explain things to me like im a 2 year old, becouse in the seo game, thats about where i stand

that better?

btw jace, pretty jazzy yahoo kws eh?

your yahoo results ARE nice for sure....

here is the first thing I would do for google, get all your alt tags in place and get more of an SE optimized front page...make sure all the images up on the top of the page have the alt tags filled out

Jace · 01-24-2005, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beergood

It seems like it would be pretty helpful to someone totally new at seo brand0n. He gave general information answers that people might not know. You'd be suprised. I've been paying my bills via seo for 7 years now and you can get a little jaded.

I would only read it once if I were new though. Not exactly bookmark worthy. (or blowjob worthy jace

)

never said it was bookmark worthy, just informative...i learned something new, and that is what matters to me

brand0n · 01-24-2005, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

your yahoo results ARE nice for sure....

here is the first thing I would do for google, get all your alt tags in place and get more of an SE optimized front page...make sure all the images up on the top of the page have the alt tags filled out

see! thats the shit i came to this thread for.

OzMan · 01-24-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

i dont feel obligated shit. and im not hating on anyone, i was just pointing out that this thread is very deciptive. i dont give a fuck about your food chain, or your book.

how bout this. all you guys can form a line behind WG that way he knows whos next in line to kiss his ass.

I give respect to anyone who offers to help others.

yuvalus · 01-24-2005, 04:11 PM

100% bookmarked here

Shoehorn! · 01-24-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

watch this thread and read it...OVER AND OVER!

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=421271

thanks for the nice responses Charles

r3ap3r · 01-24-2005, 05:27 PM

Some pretty good info in that thread. Thanks

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Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	brand0n, you really need to read deeper into some of the things that were said in that thread....i have been dabbling in SEO for years, and there were some great pointer tips in there for someone who can read between the lines...there were actually a few little secret tips that he said that you can't pick up anywhere else read between the lines and read it harder, there is a lot of info in there as for your domain name and google - here is the google results for weed http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=weed where are you?

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pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	I know being a TOTAL noob in the SEO world, the information WG put on that thread is golden to me. He also mentioned another place to read more about SEO. Brand0n, when you said "on the braggin side" you are off there. I give WG, even though i do not know him, ALOT of respect because he is one of the few players that do not go around parading how many millions they have made and how we are fucking flys comparing to their wallet. For that, i will always respect him. Oh yeah, call me an asskisser. I am kissing his ass because he is going to get me number one spot tonight for the term "porn".

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beergood Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 2,918	It seems like it would be pretty helpful to someone totally new at seo brand0n. He gave general information answers that people might not know. You'd be suprised. I've been paying my bills via seo for 7 years now and you can get a little jaded. I would only read it once if I were new though. Not exactly bookmark worthy. (or blowjob worthy jace ) __________________ icq: 320340263

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