Does Spamhaus have any power? - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty F · 01-21-2005, 11:57 AM

Who are these idiots? Is this just a group of people with no lives who should be fighting cp instead of spam or is this an official company who can take legal action against spammers? Why do they do it? Why are they so concerned about other peoples business?
Now dont get me wrong, i dont like getting spam in my mailbox and if im getting too much from 1 person and he wont let me opt out then i report him to his sponsors or host or whatever. But companies like spamhaus simply freak me out...they try to control everything and everybody so im really wondering, can they and are they allowed to do what they do?

SmokeyTheBear · 01-21-2005, 12:03 PM

Well , if you really want to know, read up on the history of the better business bureau.

Not that they can be compared, but it might help you understand the reasoning behind whom they are.

Most of the accusations they make are true , but how they tie them together leaves alot to be desired.

They tend to follow a lead forever , so if someone did something bad at one point anyone involved with them from then on out is guilty to them.

nofx · 01-21-2005, 12:04 PM

yup they have a lot of power.

they can get domains pulled and hosting shut down.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-21-2005, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx

yup they have a lot of power.

they can get domains pulled and hosting shut down.

so can anyone, they arent that special. I would say about 1/4 of the reports on there are not followed thru ( i.e. still running ). Def not somewhere you want to be though.

if you see this report
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...pcworld/119368

A company recently sued a man who reported his spamming to his isp from advice from spamhaus , but didnt sue spamhaus , even though the allegations are much wider on the spamhaus website.

Dirty F · 01-21-2005, 01:04 PM

Hmm i see..

Sami · 01-21-2005, 01:09 PM

Alot of isps use them as a mail filter.

Meaning if you have your block C blocked by them.. your going to run into alot of problems emailing anywhere.

kane · 01-21-2005, 01:24 PM

like it was said before some ISP's use them as a spam filter. I had a host a couple of years ago that had problems with them . It seems one of the people that had a server with this host spammed. They were caught and the site and server were shut down. But spamhaus listed Every IP this host had. So all of a sudden some of my emails are bouncing. The host ended up getting a new batch of IP's that weren't listed there. So they do have some power.

but I agree. They need to get a life or focus that effort into something a little more useful.

datezonline · 01-21-2005, 02:12 PM

they cant do shit!

they are pussys!

they talk shit and hide behind computers, the wanker that runs it is guarded by UK police because so many would like nothing more than to break the little bitch in half.

they are employed by the EU government to destroy american business. thats why bush made the CAN-SPAM act, to fight them. however these cocksuckers still bitch/moan/block people.

if they are disturbing you, tell them to go fuck themselves, they cant do shit to you!

just to show you who these welfare hahahahas are heres some info on their co founder

"John Blasik (aka "John Reid)

Spamhaus claims to operate out of the United Kingdom, and believes this gives them protection from a lawsuit in the United States. As a matter of fact, Spamhaus is not just Steve Linford (a UK resident), but John Blasik (aka John Reid). a resident of Palm Bay, Florida USA.

"John Reid" is actually John Blasik. What follows is information taken from public records."

datezonline · 01-21-2005, 02:14 PM

This is the wife basher/ spamhaus ceo who decides what E-Mail Spamhaus will block. Do you trust this guy to make these decisions for you ?

Home Address:

John Blasik
4615 Tree Ridge Ln NE
Palm Bay, FL 32905-4658
Tel. 321-951-7718

Employer and Address:

Intersil Corporation
2401 Palm Bay Road
Palm Bay, FL 32905
TEL: (321) 724-7000
1-888-468-3774

John's Personal E-Mail : [email protected]

Domestic Violence, Trespassing, battery, "Exposure of Sexual Organs", numerous traffic violations, etc.

Name Search
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Case Number Case Type Case Status Filing Date Case Title Party Date of Birth

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05-1985-DR-010589-XXXX-XX OTHER DOMESTIC REOPEN PEND/PET 10/31/1985 MASTERS MARY VS BLASIK JOHN M RESPONDENT (1)

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05-1992-TR-060734-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 04/17/1992 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1993-TR-038589-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 02/12/1993 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1993-TR-060925-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 11/09/1993 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1994-MM-021156-AXXX-XX MISDEMEANOR APPEAL CLOSED 08/19/1994 STATE VS BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957
Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge
1 1 08/13/1994 TRESPASS AFTER WARNING

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05-1994-AP-029615-AXXX-XX CRIMINAL APPEAL ORIGINAL DISP 11/28/1994 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957
Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge
1 1 11/28/1994 APPEAL TO CIRCUIT COURT

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05-1996-MM-012336-AXXX-XX MISDEMEANOR ORIGINAL DISP 05/23/1996 STATE VS BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957
Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge
1 1 05/19/1996 EXPOSURE OF SEXUAL ORGANS

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05-1996-TR-040392-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 06/03/1996 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1997-DR-008491-XXXX-XX DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ORIGINAL DISP 05/27/1997 BLASIK JOHN VS MOYE JAMES PETITIONER (1)

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05-1997-TR-034227-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 07/02/1997 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1998-TR-021264-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 06/01/1998 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1999-TR-087732-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 12/09/1999 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-2003-TR-051876-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL PEND 07/09/2003 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957
Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge
1 07/05/2003 SPEED POSTED MUNICIPALITY SPEEDING 20 TO 29 MPH

datezonline · 01-21-2005, 02:16 PM

**** Archived Cases ****
Case Number Case Type Case Status Case Name Filing Date Party Date of Birth

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05-1988-MM-009726-AXXX-XX Disposed BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL Defendant (1) 01/12/1957
Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date
1 BATTERY NF NOT FILED 11/22/1989
2 BATTERY NF NOT FILED 11/22/1989

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05-1987-TR-016702-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 02/26/1987 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957
Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date
1 EQUIPMENT FOR MOTORCYCLE RIDER 316.211 4 PAID FINE 03/29/1987
Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date
M 198720898PL 02/26/1987

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05-1988-TR-026161-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 03/19/1988 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957
Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date
1 NO/IMPROPER DRIVER LICENSE 322.03-C 4 PAID FINE 06/21/1988
Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date
M 198818574QB 03/19/1988

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05-1988-CT-016608-AXXX-XX CRIMINAL TRAFFIC Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 06/14/1988 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957
Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date
1 OPERATING VEHICLE WHILE DRIVER 322.34-B D DISMISSED 06/29/1988
Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date
M 198810642QS 06/14/1988

datezonline · 01-21-2005, 02:19 PM

are you going to let a wife bashing flasher with a $20,000 house sue or intimidate you?

pfffffffft

nothing but target practice

ronbotx · 01-21-2005, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datezonline

they cant do shit!

they are pussys!

they talk shit and hide behind computers, the wanker that runs it is guarded by UK police because so many would like nothing more than to break the little bitch in half.

they are employed by the EU government to destroy american business. thats why bush made the CAN-SPAM act, to fight them. however these cocksuckers still bitch/moan/block people.

if they are disturbing you, tell them to go fuck themselves, they cant do shit to you!

just to show you who these welfare hahahahas are heres some info on their co founder

"John Blasik (aka "John Reid)

Spamhaus claims to operate out of the United Kingdom, and believes this gives them protection from a lawsuit in the United States. As a matter of fact, Spamhaus is not just Steve Linford (a UK resident), but John Blasik (aka John Reid). a resident of Palm Bay, Florida USA.

"John Reid" is actually John Blasik. What follows is information taken from public records."

And of course, we are to believe a sack of shit spammer like yourself, who lies for a living......

If they are so irrelevant, I wonder why your fellow criminal scum-sucking spambags hate Spamhaus & Spamcop so much.

I use BOTH the Spamhaus SBL and Spamcop block lists which routes the crappola from scumbags like datezonline directly to the trash folder where it belongs.....

Use www.spampal.org if you want to do the same

SomeCreep · 01-21-2005, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx

And of course, we are to believe a sack of shit spammer like yourself, who lies for a living......

Lol

.........

jimmyf · 01-21-2005, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx

And of course, we are to believe a sack of shit spammer like yourself, who lies for a living......

If they are so irrelevant, I wonder why your fellow criminal scum-sucking spambags hate Spamhaus & Spamcop so much.

I use BOTH the Spamhaus SBL and Spamcop block lists which routes the crappola from scumbags like datezonline directly to the trash folder where it belongs.....

Use www.spampal.org if you want to do the same

BRISK · 01-21-2005, 06:58 PM

Information is power

SmokeyTheBear · 01-21-2005, 07:11 PM

john's car ;)

hydro · 01-21-2005, 07:14 PM

They don't have legal power really, just filtering power. Pay $10,000 a month to spamhaus and you can have your servers whitelisted. Spamcop will do it for $20,000 a month. Maybe now that i don't spam i should let the anti spam community have a peek at the banking statments??

d00t · 01-21-2005, 07:30 PM

those black lists are a joke..really

01-21-2005, 11:57 AM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Does Spamhaus have any power? Who are these idiots? Is this just a group of people with no lives who should be fighting cp instead of spam or is this an official company who can take legal action against spammers? Why do they do it? Why are they so concerned about other peoples business? Now dont get me wrong, i dont like getting spam in my mailbox and if im getting too much from 1 person and he wont let me opt out then i report him to his sponsors or host or whatever. But companies like spamhaus simply freak me out...they try to control everything and everybody so im really wondering, can they and are they allowed to do what they do?

01-21-2005, 12:03 PM	#2
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Well , if you really want to know, read up on the history of the better business bureau. Not that they can be compared, but it might help you understand the reasoning behind whom they are. Most of the accusations they make are true , but how they tie them together leaves alot to be desired. They tend to follow a lead forever , so if someone did something bad at one point anyone involved with them from then on out is guilty to them. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

01-21-2005, 12:04 PM	#3
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	yup they have a lot of power. they can get domains pulled and hosting shut down. __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

01-21-2005, 01:09 PM	#6
Sami Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,047	Alot of isps use them as a mail filter. Meaning if you have your block C blocked by them.. your going to run into alot of problems emailing anywhere. __________________ ServerProvider.com ICQ#: 311-848-143

01-21-2005, 02:12 PM	#8
datezonline A man trapped in a woman's body Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: hardrive Posts: 450	they cant do shit! they are pussys! they talk shit and hide behind computers, the wanker that runs it is guarded by UK police because so many would like nothing more than to break the little bitch in half. they are employed by the EU government to destroy american business. thats why bush made the CAN-SPAM act, to fight them. however these cocksuckers still bitch/moan/block people. if they are disturbing you, tell them to go fuck themselves, they cant do shit to you! just to show you who these welfare hahahahas are heres some info on their co founder "John Blasik (aka "John Reid) Spamhaus claims to operate out of the United Kingdom, and believes this gives them protection from a lawsuit in the United States. As a matter of fact, Spamhaus is not just Steve Linford (a UK resident), but John Blasik (aka John Reid). a resident of Palm Bay, Florida USA. "John Reid" is actually John Blasik. What follows is information taken from public records." __________________ epassporte are assholes with bad service and no fraud protection, they are based offshore in st kitts so they cant be sued when they fuck you over

01-21-2005, 01:04 PM	#5
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Hmm i see..

01-21-2005, 01:24 PM	#7
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	like it was said before some ISP's use them as a spam filter. I had a host a couple of years ago that had problems with them . It seems one of the people that had a server with this host spammed. They were caught and the site and server were shut down. But spamhaus listed Every IP this host had. So all of a sudden some of my emails are bouncing. The host ended up getting a new batch of IP's that weren't listed there. So they do have some power. but I agree. They need to get a life or focus that effort into something a little more useful.

01-21-2005, 02:14 PM	#9
datezonline A man trapped in a woman's body Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: hardrive Posts: 450	This is the wife basher/ spamhaus ceo who decides what E-Mail Spamhaus will block. Do you trust this guy to make these decisions for you ? Home Address: John Blasik 4615 Tree Ridge Ln NE Palm Bay, FL 32905-4658 Tel. 321-951-7718 Employer and Address: Intersil Corporation 2401 Palm Bay Road Palm Bay, FL 32905 TEL: (321) 724-7000 1-888-468-3774 John's Personal E-Mail : [email protected] Domestic Violence, Trespassing, battery, "Exposure of Sexual Organs", numerous traffic violations, etc. Name Search -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Case Number Case Type Case Status Filing Date Case Title Party Date of Birth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1985-DR-010589-XXXX-XX OTHER DOMESTIC REOPEN PEND/PET 10/31/1985 MASTERS MARY VS BLASIK JOHN M RESPONDENT (1) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1992-TR-060734-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 04/17/1992 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1993-TR-038589-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 02/12/1993 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1993-TR-060925-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 11/09/1993 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1994-MM-021156-AXXX-XX MISDEMEANOR APPEAL CLOSED 08/19/1994 STATE VS BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge 1 1 08/13/1994 TRESPASS AFTER WARNING -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1994-AP-029615-AXXX-XX CRIMINAL APPEAL ORIGINAL DISP 11/28/1994 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge 1 1 11/28/1994 APPEAL TO CIRCUIT COURT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1996-MM-012336-AXXX-XX MISDEMEANOR ORIGINAL DISP 05/23/1996 STATE VS BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge 1 1 05/19/1996 EXPOSURE OF SEXUAL ORGANS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1996-TR-040392-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 06/03/1996 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1997-DR-008491-XXXX-XX DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ORIGINAL DISP 05/27/1997 BLASIK JOHN VS MOYE JAMES PETITIONER (1) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1997-TR-034227-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 07/02/1997 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1998-TR-021264-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 06/01/1998 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1999-TR-087732-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 12/09/1999 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-2003-TR-051876-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL PEND 07/09/2003 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957 Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge 1 07/05/2003 SPEED POSTED MUNICIPALITY SPEEDING 20 TO 29 MPH __________________ epassporte are assholes with bad service and no fraud protection, they are based offshore in st kitts so they cant be sued when they fuck you over

01-21-2005, 02:16 PM	#10
datezonline A man trapped in a woman's body Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: hardrive Posts: 450	** Archived Cases ** Case Number Case Type Case Status Case Name Filing Date Party Date of Birth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1988-MM-009726-AXXX-XX Disposed BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL Defendant (1) 01/12/1957 Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date 1 BATTERY NF NOT FILED 11/22/1989 2 BATTERY NF NOT FILED 11/22/1989 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1987-TR-016702-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 02/26/1987 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957 Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date 1 EQUIPMENT FOR MOTORCYCLE RIDER 316.211 4 PAID FINE 03/29/1987 Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date M 198720898PL 02/26/1987 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1988-TR-026161-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 03/19/1988 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957 Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date 1 NO/IMPROPER DRIVER LICENSE 322.03-C 4 PAID FINE 06/21/1988 Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date M 198818574QB 03/19/1988 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05-1988-CT-016608-AXXX-XX CRIMINAL TRAFFIC Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 06/14/1988 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957 Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date 1 OPERATING VEHICLE WHILE DRIVER 322.34-B D DISMISSED 06/29/1988 Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date M 198810642QS 06/14/1988 __________________ epassporte are assholes with bad service and no fraud protection, they are based offshore in st kitts so they cant be sued when they fuck you over

01-21-2005, 02:19 PM	#11
datezonline A man trapped in a woman's body Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: hardrive Posts: 450	are you going to let a wife bashing flasher with a $20,000 house sue or intimidate you? pfffffffft nothing but target practice __________________ epassporte are assholes with bad service and no fraud protection, they are based offshore in st kitts so they cant be sued when they fuck you over

01-21-2005, 06:58 PM	#15
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Information is power __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

01-21-2005, 07:11 PM	#16
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	john's car ;) __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

01-21-2005, 07:14 PM	#17
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	They don't have legal power really, just filtering power. Pay $10,000 a month to spamhaus and you can have your servers whitelisted. Spamcop will do it for $20,000 a month. Maybe now that i don't spam i should let the anti spam community have a peek at the banking statments??

01-21-2005, 07:30 PM	#18
d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	those black lists are a joke..really