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Dirty F 01-21-2005 11:57 AM

Does Spamhaus have any power?
 
Who are these idiots? Is this just a group of people with no lives who should be fighting cp instead of spam or is this an official company who can take legal action against spammers? Why do they do it? Why are they so concerned about other peoples business?
Now dont get me wrong, i dont like getting spam in my mailbox and if im getting too much from 1 person and he wont let me opt out then i report him to his sponsors or host or whatever. But companies like spamhaus simply freak me out...they try to control everything and everybody so im really wondering, can they and are they allowed to do what they do?

SmokeyTheBear 01-21-2005 12:03 PM

Well , if you really want to know, read up on the history of the better business bureau.

Not that they can be compared, but it might help you understand the reasoning behind whom they are.

Most of the accusations they make are true , but how they tie them together leaves alot to be desired.

They tend to follow a lead forever , so if someone did something bad at one point anyone involved with them from then on out is guilty to them.

nofx 01-21-2005 12:04 PM

yup they have a lot of power.

they can get domains pulled and hosting shut down.

SmokeyTheBear 01-21-2005 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx
yup they have a lot of power.

they can get domains pulled and hosting shut down.


so can anyone, they arent that special. I would say about 1/4 of the reports on there are not followed thru ( i.e. still running ). Def not somewhere you want to be though.

if you see this report
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...pcworld/119368

A company recently sued a man who reported his spamming to his isp from advice from spamhaus , but didnt sue spamhaus , even though the allegations are much wider on the spamhaus website.

Dirty F 01-21-2005 01:04 PM

Hmm i see..

Sami 01-21-2005 01:09 PM

Alot of isps use them as a mail filter.

Meaning if you have your block C blocked by them.. your going to run into alot of problems emailing anywhere.

kane 01-21-2005 01:24 PM

like it was said before some ISP's use them as a spam filter. I had a host a couple of years ago that had problems with them . It seems one of the people that had a server with this host spammed. They were caught and the site and server were shut down. But spamhaus listed Every IP this host had. So all of a sudden some of my emails are bouncing. The host ended up getting a new batch of IP's that weren't listed there. So they do have some power.

but I agree. They need to get a life or focus that effort into something a little more useful.

datezonline 01-21-2005 02:12 PM

they cant do shit!

they are pussys!

they talk shit and hide behind computers, the wanker that runs it is guarded by UK police because so many would like nothing more than to break the little bitch in half.

they are employed by the EU government to destroy american business. thats why bush made the CAN-SPAM act, to fight them. however these cocksuckers still bitch/moan/block people.

if they are disturbing you, tell them to go fuck themselves, they cant do shit to you!

just to show you who these welfare hahahahas are heres some info on their co founder

"John Blasik (aka "John Reid)

Spamhaus claims to operate out of the United Kingdom, and believes this gives them protection from a lawsuit in the United States. As a matter of fact, Spamhaus is not just Steve Linford (a UK resident), but John Blasik (aka John Reid). a resident of Palm Bay, Florida USA.

"John Reid" is actually John Blasik. What follows is information taken from public records."

datezonline 01-21-2005 02:14 PM

http://soccermoms.biz/blasik.jpg
This is the wife basher/ spamhaus ceo who decides what E-Mail Spamhaus will block. Do you trust this guy to make these decisions for you ?

Home Address:

John Blasik
4615 Tree Ridge Ln NE
Palm Bay, FL 32905-4658
Tel. 321-951-7718



Employer and Address:

Intersil Corporation
2401 Palm Bay Road
Palm Bay, FL 32905
TEL: (321) 724-7000
1-888-468-3774

John's Personal E-Mail : [email protected]

Domestic Violence, Trespassing, battery, "Exposure of Sexual Organs", numerous traffic violations, etc.

Name Search
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Case Number Case Type Case Status Filing Date Case Title Party Date of Birth

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05-1985-DR-010589-XXXX-XX OTHER DOMESTIC REOPEN PEND/PET 10/31/1985 MASTERS MARY VS BLASIK JOHN M RESPONDENT (1)

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05-1992-TR-060734-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 04/17/1992 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1993-TR-038589-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 02/12/1993 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1993-TR-060925-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 11/09/1993 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1994-MM-021156-AXXX-XX MISDEMEANOR APPEAL CLOSED 08/19/1994 STATE VS BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957
Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge
1 1 08/13/1994 TRESPASS AFTER WARNING

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05-1994-AP-029615-AXXX-XX CRIMINAL APPEAL ORIGINAL DISP 11/28/1994 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957
Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge
1 1 11/28/1994 APPEAL TO CIRCUIT COURT

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05-1996-MM-012336-AXXX-XX MISDEMEANOR ORIGINAL DISP 05/23/1996 STATE VS BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957
Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge
1 1 05/19/1996 EXPOSURE OF SEXUAL ORGANS

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05-1996-TR-040392-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 06/03/1996 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1997-DR-008491-XXXX-XX DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ORIGINAL DISP 05/27/1997 BLASIK JOHN VS MOYE JAMES PETITIONER (1)

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05-1997-TR-034227-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 07/02/1997 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1998-TR-021264-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 06/01/1998 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-1999-TR-087732-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL DISP 12/09/1999 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957

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05-2003-TR-051876-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION ORIGINAL PEND 07/09/2003 STATE VS BLASIK DEFENDANT (1) 01/12/1957
Rec No. Cnt Charge Dt Charge
1 07/05/2003 SPEED POSTED MUNICIPALITY SPEEDING 20 TO 29 MPH

datezonline 01-21-2005 02:16 PM

**** Archived Cases ****
Case Number Case Type Case Status Case Name Filing Date Party Date of Birth

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05-1988-MM-009726-AXXX-XX Disposed BLASIK JOHN MICHAEL Defendant (1) 01/12/1957
Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date
1 BATTERY NF NOT FILED 11/22/1989
2 BATTERY NF NOT FILED 11/22/1989

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05-1987-TR-016702-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 02/26/1987 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957
Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date
1 EQUIPMENT FOR MOTORCYCLE RIDER 316.211 4 PAID FINE 03/29/1987
Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date
M 198720898PL 02/26/1987

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05-1988-TR-026161-AXXX-XX TRAFFIC INFRACTION Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 03/19/1988 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957
Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date
1 NO/IMPROPER DRIVER LICENSE 322.03-C 4 PAID FINE 06/21/1988
Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date
M 198818574QB 03/19/1988

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05-1988-CT-016608-AXXX-XX CRIMINAL TRAFFIC Disposed BLASIK JOHN M 06/14/1988 Defendant (1) 01/12/1957
Cnt Charge Description Disposition Disp Date
1 OPERATING VEHICLE WHILE DRIVER 322.34-B D DISMISSED 06/29/1988
Citation Type Citation Number Violation Date
M 198810642QS 06/14/1988

datezonline 01-21-2005 02:19 PM

are you going to let a wife bashing flasher with a $20,000 house sue or intimidate you?

pfffffffft

nothing but target practice

ronbotx 01-21-2005 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datezonline
they cant do shit!

they are pussys!

they talk shit and hide behind computers, the wanker that runs it is guarded by UK police because so many would like nothing more than to break the little bitch in half.

they are employed by the EU government to destroy american business. thats why bush made the CAN-SPAM act, to fight them. however these cocksuckers still bitch/moan/block people.

if they are disturbing you, tell them to go fuck themselves, they cant do shit to you!

just to show you who these welfare hahahahas are heres some info on their co founder

"John Blasik (aka "John Reid)

Spamhaus claims to operate out of the United Kingdom, and believes this gives them protection from a lawsuit in the United States. As a matter of fact, Spamhaus is not just Steve Linford (a UK resident), but John Blasik (aka John Reid). a resident of Palm Bay, Florida USA.

"John Reid" is actually John Blasik. What follows is information taken from public records."

And of course, we are to believe a sack of shit spammer like yourself, who lies for a living......

If they are so irrelevant, I wonder why your fellow criminal scum-sucking spambags hate Spamhaus & Spamcop so much.

I use BOTH the Spamhaus SBL and Spamcop block lists which routes the crappola from scumbags like datezonline directly to the trash folder where it belongs.....

Use www.spampal.org if you want to do the same :thumbsup

SomeCreep 01-21-2005 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx
And of course, we are to believe a sack of shit spammer like yourself, who lies for a living......

Lol

.........

jimmyf 01-21-2005 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx
And of course, we are to believe a sack of shit spammer like yourself, who lies for a living......

If they are so irrelevant, I wonder why your fellow criminal scum-sucking spambags hate Spamhaus & Spamcop so much.

I use BOTH the Spamhaus SBL and Spamcop block lists which routes the crappola from scumbags like datezonline directly to the trash folder where it belongs.....

Use www.spampal.org if you want to do the same :thumbsup


:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

BRISK 01-21-2005 06:58 PM

Information is power

SmokeyTheBear 01-21-2005 07:11 PM

http://www.shotimes.com/pics/[email protected]

john's car ;)

hydro 01-21-2005 07:14 PM

They don't have legal power really, just filtering power. Pay $10,000 a month to spamhaus and you can have your servers whitelisted. Spamcop will do it for $20,000 a month. Maybe now that i don't spam i should let the anti spam community have a peek at the banking statments??

d00t 01-21-2005 07:30 PM

those black lists are a joke..really


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