EBAY stock tanked yesterday - GoFuckYourself.com

UniversalPassLorence · 01-21-2005, 12:27 PM

It went down 18 Points and today it's up about 3 points. I believe in Ebays model, but there might be a slow down in the future in profits.

Should I buy more, hold or dump what I currently have?

aflex · 01-21-2005, 12:29 PM

I'd be cautious.. a lot of big sellers are pissed at eBay for raising fees..

m4rk4s · 01-21-2005, 12:30 PM

why are you asking here?

ProjectNaked · 01-21-2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aflex

I'd be cautious.. a lot of big sellers are pissed at eBay for raising fees..

EXACTLY---I sent them all kinds of nasty shit over that

shuki · 01-21-2005, 12:31 PM

Yah the fee increases are crazy.

axelcat · 01-21-2005, 12:32 PM

its going back up

UniversalPassLorence · 01-21-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aflex

I'd be cautious.. a lot of big sellers are pissed at eBay for raising fees..

And Overstock lowered their fees & they are claiming increased customer base

stereolab · 01-21-2005, 12:48 PM

a lot of eBay's revenue comes from simply giving stock options to their employees not from their auction operations.

shuki · 01-21-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UniversalPassLorence

And Overstock lowered their fees & they are claiming increased customer base

Interesting....I will have to go check out overstocks auction platform. Thanks for the heads up

Veterans Day · 01-21-2005, 12:51 PM

well in 5 years when someone has a brand name and model half the size of ebay, then I may consider the competition, until such time ebay is king and has the last say.

erehwon · 01-21-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aflex

I'd be cautious.. a lot of big sellers are pissed at eBay for raising fees..

If eBay isn't too careful they might raise the prices enough to open competition to other auction sites, I saw a number of sites issue press releases in the hours after the price annoucement like it was a ticker tape parade.

I forgot the article, but one store owner said he was selling $3K a month on eBay and after the price increase, he's gone for good.

aflex · 01-21-2005, 12:56 PM

Do keep in mind that Ebay owns Paypal. Between insertion fees, ebays cut, paypals cut. The average seller loses a nice little chunk of cash. I have a brand new 20gb Ipod sitting on my desk that I don't even feel like putting on ebay because of that shit.

UniversalPassLorence · 01-21-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by erehwon

If eBay isn't too careful they might raise the prices enough to open competition to other auction sites, I saw a number of sites issue press releases in the hours after the price annoucement like it was a ticker tape parade.

I forgot the article, but one store owner said he was selling $3K a month on eBay and after the price increase, he's gone for good.

I am not sure where they will go at the moment. The options are limited and the store owner is still making money.

LeeNoga · 01-21-2005, 12:59 PM

To think Ebay started because his GF collected "Pez" candy dispensers.

sltr · 01-21-2005, 12:59 PM

ebay's revenue has increased by 30-40% every year and this is only the 2nd time they haven't met forcasted expectations (off by a penny)
their current projections have them doing 1b+ every quarter of 2005 , analysts are somewhat weary due to the fee increase and about 100m of their 2004 revenue being somewhat off due to exchange rates

shuki · 01-21-2005, 01:02 PM

Its going to be intersting. We will see if they care about the sellers that help grow their community or just their bottom line.

pxxx · 01-21-2005, 01:05 PM

I think it is going back up.

UniversalPassLorence · 01-21-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pxxx

I think it is going back up.

They have increased their fees considerably, but I don?t think the sellers have any other viable choice at this time. I will hold with a stop to sell majority of the shares at the next resistance

Furious_Male · 01-21-2005, 01:59 PM

They are solid that was an emotional dump. They were off just a bit on earnings yet were still very impressive. Looking forward they were cautious as well.

Nowdays if earnings even miss by .01 the stock takes a beating.

Tipsy · 01-21-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

Its going to be intersting. We will see if they care about the sellers that help grow their community or just their bottom line.

The answer to that should be very obvious to you. The answer to if it will have an adverse effect on future profits only time will tell.

However you look at it now Ebay fees are getting far too high to make selling via it viable for many people. It'll be interesting to see the next earnings statement to see if many have simply stopped or moved elsewhere.

slavdogg · 01-21-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeNoga

To think Ebay started because his GF collected "Pez" candy dispensers.

Lee hows your Beany Baby collection ?

UniversalPassLorence · 01-21-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

They are solid that was an emotional dump. They were off just a bit on earnings yet were still very impressive. Looking forward they were cautious as well.

Nowdays if earnings even miss by .01 the stock takes a beating.

It was the forward guidance that the street didn't like.

foolio · 01-21-2005, 06:28 PM

It is more than the fee increase that is pissing off sellers - they are changing all sorts of crap over there for no good reason. This has been going on for some time now and its just fucking stupid

QuaWee · 01-21-2005, 06:28 PM

ebay are asses for raising fees. they basically have no competition in their field so why are the losing money?

d00t · 01-21-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

ebay are asses for raising fees. they basically have no competition in their field so why are the losing money?

EXACTLY!!!

UniversalPassLorence · 01-21-2005, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

ebay are asses for raising fees. they basically have no competition in their field so why are the losing money?

They have a great thing going & I am not sure why they would want to rock the boat by raising the fees. They are not loosing money, that is for sure.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-22-2005, 01:38 AM

Not sure, that is a tough one there buddy.

Axzar · 01-22-2005, 02:10 AM

Eventually, Ebay will be manufacturer direct to consumer for new items.

It's still a great place to sell the used crap laying around your house.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-22-2005, 02:15 AM

Competion will result.

Its really that simple.
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01-21-2005, 12:27 PM	#1
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01-21-2005, 12:29 PM	#2
aflex Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey - adaptweb at gmail.com Posts: 3,127	I'd be cautious.. a lot of big sellers are pissed at eBay for raising fees.. __________________ self made mothafucka. buying premium domains & developed sites with revenue/traffic -> adaptweb at gmail.com

01-21-2005, 12:31 PM	#5
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01-21-2005, 12:32 PM	#6
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01-21-2005, 12:56 PM	#12
aflex Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey - adaptweb at gmail.com Posts: 3,127	Do keep in mind that Ebay owns Paypal. Between insertion fees, ebays cut, paypals cut. The average seller loses a nice little chunk of cash. I have a brand new 20gb Ipod sitting on my desk that I don't even feel like putting on ebay because of that shit. __________________ self made mothafucka. buying premium domains & developed sites with revenue/traffic -> adaptweb at gmail.com

01-21-2005, 12:59 PM	#14
LeeNoga Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Egg & Sperm Mutation Posts: 3,043	To think Ebay started because his GF collected "Pez" candy dispensers.

01-21-2005, 12:59 PM	#15
sltr Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,191	ebay's revenue has increased by 30-40% every year and this is only the 2nd time they haven't met forcasted expectations (off by a penny) their current projections have them doing 1b+ every quarter of 2005 , analysts are somewhat weary due to the fee increase and about 100m of their 2004 revenue being somewhat off due to exchange rates

01-21-2005, 01:02 PM	#16
shuki Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 3,070	Its going to be intersting. We will see if they care about the sellers that help grow their community or just their bottom line. __________________ Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

01-21-2005, 01:05 PM	#17
pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	I think it is going back up.

01-21-2005, 01:59 PM	#19
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	They are solid that was an emotional dump. They were off just a bit on earnings yet were still very impressive. Looking forward they were cautious as well. Nowdays if earnings even miss by .01 the stock takes a beating. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

01-21-2005, 06:28 PM	#23
foolio ICQ: 178725656 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 12,366	It is more than the fee increase that is pissing off sellers - they are changing all sorts of crap over there for no good reason. This has been going on for some time now and its just fucking stupid __________________

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QuaWee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: boogers Posts: 5,791	ebay are asses for raising fees. they basically have no competition in their field so why are the losing money? __________________ i luv mainstream

01-22-2005, 01:38 AM	#27
Semi-Retired-Dave Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LA Posts: 11,190	Not sure, that is a tough one there buddy. __________________ Support a Good Cause

01-22-2005, 02:10 AM	#28
Axzar Random Jackass Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,837	Eventually, Ebay will be manufacturer direct to consumer for new items. It's still a great place to sell the used crap laying around your house.

01-22-2005, 02:15 AM	#29
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