Attention Affiliate Program Owners and Affiliate Managers - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

woj · 01-23-2005, 01:02 AM

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baddog · 01-23-2005, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wargames

Looks good brother.

Thanks, and I am still working on that. One prospect bailed, the second is historically slow

Paul Markham · 01-23-2005, 04:17 AM

I got bored reading this as there is too much arguing and flaming.

What I'm wondering is the legality of it all.

If site A orders a report on site B too use the information to compete, how close is that to industrial espinage and how long before someone sues somebody?

Looking at their site is fine, SE spiders following the chain seems fine, but ordering that information to use it against a rival company might be a bit too much.

And we know how keen people are to sue each other in the States.

baddog · 01-23-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by charly

I got bored reading this as there is too much arguing and flaming.

What I'm wondering is the legality of it all.

If site A orders a report on site B too use the information to compete, how close is that to industrial espinage and how long before someone sues somebody?

Looking at their site is fine, SE spiders following the chain seems fine, but ordering that information to use it against a rival company might be a bit too much.

And we know how keen people are to sue each other in the States.

Do you think Google, MSN, or Alexa should be warming up their attorneys?

FightThisPatent · 01-23-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

Today, when trying to I find things to talk about with my clients, I mentioned a program that could track their competition that was in beta. I was shocked that they were all interested.

The board has been so chatty last couple of days that this thread fell off my screen and i missed your post.

There is a mainstream application here for t3report, though it works a little bit differently.

The concept is called "traffic shaping". One way to apply this is to go advertising agencies like Organic who already have the clients who have a web presence. Let's say Jeep (one of their clients) is the focus of the "traffic shaping".

Organic would provide us with keywords that describe the type of surfer they would be looking to attract (ie. outdoors, rugged, etc).

We do our scouring to pick up websites, blogs, etc... build up a t3report that shows the linking relationships of sites that have those keywords (those that have keywords and link to other related sites, etc).

This analysis then becomes a "map" where organic can advise their client Jeep about where to advertise. The map shows locations of websites that qualitatively match what they are looking for, and by getting a banner or link on those pages (ie. blogs), they tap into the traffic that the website receives, and sends it to them (hence the "traffic shaping" terminology).

The same is true with adult space. The next upgrade to t3report will be to highlight pages and linking relationships where provided words are found. This allows a person to filter/focus on just those traffic flows that have the keywords they are looking to tap into.

The evolution of t3report in the adult space is just like the mainstream offering (which is a couple months away since the focus right now is adult) where rather than having the t3report based on a domain, it's based on keywords, and the resulting report is a "map" of all the linking relationships with the desired keywords.

Already got mainstream interest in the mainstream version of t3report, and will definitely be going in that direction.. for now, proving out the concept in adult to build up the data to show mainstream how traffic flows if they can tap into linking relationships, rather then thinking websites are islands unto themselves, and that SE or type-in traffic is the only way to get people to their website.

Fight the Links!

FightThisPatent · 01-23-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by charly

What I'm wondering is the legality of it all.

It's all legal. There are plenty of examples of databases that collect information, where that information is used for many purposes, including competitive intelligence. Hoovers can give you information about a competitor that includes financials, news, executives, etc. Insurance companies gather data about you and sell to others.

If you have a website on the internet, you are allowing visitors to view your publically accessible data. The difference is, most people don't have the technical capability of gathering and synthesizing all the data, which is why t3report.com has been created to help with data gathering to help companies increase revenue.

Affiliate managers can certainly use this tool for "good" in helping to maximize their traffic relationships with existing affiliates.

Competitors could use if for "bad" to entice affiliates to promote a competing website.

How people use this tool is up to them.

Fight the Guns!

baddog · 01-23-2005, 10:43 PM

FTP and I were talking tonight and came up with something that we had not thought about before.

Say you have a link on thehun, when you get your T3Report you are going to find out every site linked to him by default.

Damn good value for $150

FightThisPatent · 01-24-2005, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Say you have a link on thehun, when you get your T3Report you are going to find out every site linked to him by default.

This will change starting on Feb 1st with price increases (end of introductory pricing) and product offering tweaking, to be announced on Feb 1st.

Those that ordered before then will be "grandfathered".

Fight the Countdown!

Paul Markham · 01-24-2005, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Do you think Google, MSN, or Alexa should be warming up their attorneys?

Google do not spider sites to compete with them, they spider them to show what is on the site.

Yes you can get that information form Google, not sure if it is to the same depth as the T3report.

However ordering a spider on a competitor and using that info to damage his business might just get some lawyer looking at ways to make money.

<sarcasm>We all know how Americans hate litigation.</sarcasm>

Me I would not care, come sue me here.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	FTP and I were talking tonight and came up with something that we had not thought about before. Say you have a link on thehun, when you get your T3Report you are going to find out every site linked to him by default. Damn good value for $150