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Old 01-20-2005, 01:55 PM   #1
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Who tried Siccash?

I signed up today send some traffic. This is how i am doing rite now. (send the traffic to there creampie site)

1st page hits : 1721
2nd page hits : 564
$0:00

How are you doing with siccash.
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Old 01-20-2005, 02:26 PM   #2
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ok i guess no one has?
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Old 01-20-2005, 02:27 PM   #3
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Converts good for me
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Old 01-20-2005, 02:28 PM   #4
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Done well for me over the past year... but i promote their gay sites.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:21 PM   #5
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Converts good for me
I actually wanted to know the hits to sign up ratio.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:23 PM   #6
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They suck. try silvercash or platinumbucks in stead. It will make you more money
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:24 PM   #7
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how are you sending them traffic? galleries, search engine?
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:26 PM   #8
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how are you sending them traffic? galleries, search engine?
Its TGP/Gallery type traffic.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:26 PM   #9
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I used to promote their gay sites and did ok for a while, then it tapered off.
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Old 01-20-2005, 06:00 PM   #10
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Old 01-20-2005, 06:12 PM   #11
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If your chargeback ratio goes over 1% they cancell your account.
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Old 01-20-2005, 06:43 PM   #12
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I've used them for over 2 years. some months it's very good like 1:200 and other months it's very bad (like this month so far) same traffic from galleries, tgps.
I've had mine cancelled due to above reason so I signed up again and it's been fine. They don't update their reality sites though... like at all. if they did on a reg basis it'd be better for sure.
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Old 01-20-2005, 06:46 PM   #13
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I have never been able to do well with SicCash. I have respect for the program. They shoot in house which isn't easy. Sadly, the program doesn't spend alot of money creating promotional materials necessary to sell the product effectively. Also, they need to work on their tours.
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:26 PM   #14
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most of their sites look horrible, but a lot of people promote them, so it must work.
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Old 01-20-2005, 07:31 PM   #15
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My ratio with them is usually pretty ok, but so far this month I'm at 1:9968.

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Old 01-20-2005, 07:31 PM   #16
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I signed up today send some traffic. This is how i am doing rite now. (send the traffic to there creampie site)

1st page hits : 1721
2nd page hits : 564
$0:00

How are you doing with siccash.


Hey xlogger, Get with Greg.
Here is ICQ 85-970-854.
The man knows how to market their sites.
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:25 PM   #17
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My ratio with them is usually pretty ok, but so far this month I'm at 1:9968.
mahahaah, thats bad.
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:40 PM   #18
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Tried them on link list traffic. Didn't convert very well for me at all.
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:43 PM   #19
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I tried them a while back but no one could touch ARS' conversions of 1:60 to 1:150 so I stuck with ARS until they changed their sites
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:55 PM   #20
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Tried them on link list traffic. Didn't convert very well for me at all.
same here
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:04 PM   #21
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hi Xlogger...

feel free to him me up .... on icq or email.. and I can take a look...
some larger tgps that send us traffic convert around 1:500-800... all depends..

in all honesty we show you both first page raw hits and second page uniques.. some sponsors out there only show second, third and even join page uniques. to make them appear to convert better than they are.. so it can be hard to compare apples to apples unless they show you how they count...

again.. id be happy to take a look..

thanks for the kind words scooter ;)

swedguy.. damn.. that is a bad turn...
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:07 PM   #22
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If your chargeback ratio goes over 1% they cancell your account.

translation....

yes.. we manage our business.. and also make sure we are not putting ourselves at risk for loosing our ability to process...

but no.. at 1% you would not be cancelled...

if you are brave enough to post your old account number i'll look it up and see what your real rate was ;)
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:11 PM   #23
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if you guys want to try something fresh, look at WildWestCash

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Old 01-20-2005, 11:02 PM   #24
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yes.. we manage our business.. and also make sure we are not putting ourselves at risk for loosing our ability to process...

but no.. at 1% you would not be cancelled...

if you are brave enough to post your old account number i'll look it up and see what your real rate was ;)
I don't remember it to be honest.

The fact is, I was TOLD that because my chargeback ratio was over 1%( that's the wording in the e-mail I got ) my account was cancelled. As it is last February I had a whopping 8 sales for the year and 3 charged back so my account was cancelled for "excessive chargebacks". I asked why it was MY fault that the surfers cancelled after they had already signed-up and not YOURS for failing to provide a reason for them to stay, I got a e-mail saying for me to shut the fuck up or you were going to tell all the other major sponors about me and have my accounts with them cancelled.

No biggie, plenty of other sponsors that want my business. I was just making that webmaster aware that his account COULD be cancelled.
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Old 01-20-2005, 11:08 PM   #25
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I don't remember it to be honest.

The fact is, I was TOLD that because my chargeback ratio was over 1%( that's the wording in the e-mail I got ) my account was cancelled. As it is last February I had a whopping 8 sales for the year and 3 charged back so my account was cancelled for "excessive chargebacks". I asked why it was MY fault that the surfers cancelled after they had already signed-up and not YOURS for failing to provide a reason for them to stay, I got a e-mail saying for me to shut the fuck up or you were going to tell all the other major sponors about me and have my accounts with them cancelled.

No biggie, plenty of other sponsors that want my business. I was just making that webmaster aware that his account COULD be cancelled.
And ofcourse you can prove this with the old email right?

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Old 01-20-2005, 11:15 PM   #26
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And ofcourse you can prove this with the old email right?

Why would I save a year old e-mail? Don't call me a liar. I have ZERO reason to lie and I'm not a liar by nature. Maybe YOU are, I'm not. Did I even bring this up in my first post? NOPE! If I want this to be a bash Siccash post I could have ealisly done that. I didn't. I was merely making another webmaster awre that he could get his account cancelled by Siccash for chargebacks and this is true. Other webmasters have comfirmed it. Even the guy from Siccash confirmed it. So WTF is YOUR problem?
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:23 AM   #27
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I don't remember it to be honest.

The fact is, I was TOLD that because my chargeback ratio was over 1%( that's the wording in the e-mail I got ) my account was cancelled. As it is last February I had a whopping 8 sales for the year and 3 charged back so my account was cancelled for "excessive chargebacks". I asked why it was MY fault that the surfers cancelled after they had already signed-up and not YOURS for failing to provide a reason for them to stay, I got a e-mail saying for me to shut the fuck up or you were going to tell all the other major sponors about me and have my accounts with them cancelled.

No biggie, plenty of other sponsors that want my business. I was just making that webmaster aware that his account COULD be cancelled.
if 40% of your joins chargeback... yes.. we will most likely close your account... if not on our own.. our cc processors may even send an email to us asking us to review and close... again.. this is called managing an affiliate program... nothing personal.. just business... just like if you were not converting.. most likely you would move your traffic correct??? why??? b/c it is not profitable...
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Old 01-21-2005, 11:04 AM   #28
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in all honesty we show you both first page raw hits and second page uniques.. some sponsors out there only show second, third and even join page uniques. to make them appear to convert better than they are.. so it can be hard to compare apples to apples unless they show you how they count...
The sad part is that most affiliates dont understand this. Greg is absolutely right here. You think you get "shaved", then this is the REAL shave in our industry. Showing second, third or join page as the hit to conversion ratio is it!


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Old 01-21-2005, 11:08 AM   #29
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How about you send more traffic, atleast 10k hits before you ask if they suck or not. Those stats dont say anything.
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Old 01-21-2005, 11:17 AM   #30
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How about you send more traffic, atleast 10k hits before you ask if they suck or not. Those stats dont say anything.
That is true too.
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swedguy.. damn.. that is a bad turn...
Tell me about it
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:21 PM   #32
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What the hell happended to this thread...dammmm rofl
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