Serious question, Do you guys use sponsors and AVS/AEN's... - GoFuckYourself.com

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-19-2005, 01:05 AM

with Credibility, or whoever pays the best and converts the best.
Do you check to see if they have been around for a long time and have had no bounced checks, make sure they pay on time and all that good stuff.

Or is it, Pay me the most money who cares who you are?

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-19-2005, 01:17 AM

I know there has to be someone here at this hour that is actually interested in Business. Or is this the time of the morning we only deal with millionaires.

Rorschach · 01-19-2005, 01:28 AM

I do both, promote long term partnership type things with some traffic (for the bread and butter) and then the flavour of the month with other traffic... but every link code everywhere is dynamic so I can switch it instantly at the first sign of any funny business.

candyflip · 01-19-2005, 01:30 AM

I've always mixed things up. Even with my own little program to promote, I'm still doing what I can to keep up with sending traffic elsewhere.

Top Jimmy · 01-19-2005, 01:31 AM

I found being my own sponsor was best. I don't send hits/sales to anyone except me.

When I first started with AVS back in 96 I built up enough equity to build my own. I then used that. I am about to start a paysite network since avs is just too much trouble as I am sure you're aware

So many bad sites, fraudulent webmasters. I finally disallowed anyone to signup unless they were invited, or known by someone who was.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-19-2005, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach

I do both, promote long term partnership type things with some traffic (for the bread and butter) and then the flavour of the month with other traffic... but every link code everywhere is dynamic so I can switch it instantly at the first sign of any funny business.

Smart thinking.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-19-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy

I found being my own sponsor was best. I don't send hits/sales to anyone except me.

When I first started with AVS back in 96 I built up enough equity to build my own. I then used that. I am about to start a paysite network since avs is just too much trouble as I am sure you're aware

So many bad sites, fraudulent webmasters. I finally disallowed anyone to signup unless they were invited, or known by someone who was.

The fraud stuff was really bad back in 2000 - 2002. We don't see much of it at all. We filter out bad webmasters and did what you did with the invite system.

That is cool that you keep it in your own program. You have been doing this as long as I have. Congrats.

J$tyle$ · 01-19-2005, 01:33 AM

Hey Dave,

I know what an AVS is, but what is an AEN?

Seriously?

Top Jimmy · 01-19-2005, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

Hey Dave,

I know what an AVS is, but what is an AEN?

Seriously?

AEN is another name for avs essentially. AEN formed after Visa disallowed Cards as a mean of age verification.

It's basically a network of paysites that are all accessed with one id, just like an AVS.

EDIT: it stands for Adult Entertainment Network

Top Jimmy · 01-19-2005, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

The fraud stuff was really bad back in 2000 - 2002. We don't see much of it at all. We filter out bad webmasters and did what you did with the invite system.

That is cool that you keep it in your own program. You have been doing this as long as I have. Congrats.

Thanks you actually helped me get started in a way

A lot of my sites were on adult check inititally, then I moved to agecheck when you guys started.

demon100 · 01-19-2005, 01:39 AM

if you got a freesite mgp or tgp you can use my freehostedmovieseries to promote my AVS , it converts great and you dont have to host something yourself except the codes to get it on your site ... you get 10$ per sale and rebills

Top Jimmy · 01-19-2005, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demon100

if you got a freesite mgp or tgp you can use my freehostedmovieseries to promote my AVS , it converts great and you dont have to host something yourself except the codes to get it on your site ... you get 10$ per sale and rebills

Nah...

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-19-2005, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy

Thanks you actually helped me get started in a way

A lot of my sites were on adult check inititally, then I moved to agecheck when you guys started.

No, thank you.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-19-2005, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Jimmy

AEN is another name for avs essentially. AEN formed after Visa disallowed Cards as a mean of age verification.

It's basically a network of paysites that are all accessed with one id, just like an AVS.

EDIT: it stands for Adult Entertainment Network

Great explanation.

baddog · 01-19-2005, 01:48 AM

I don't promote anyone that I don't know or investigate first.

theFeTiShLaDy · 01-19-2005, 02:38 AM

when promoting a sponsor, you have to consider everything..from free content to converstion and from webmaster support to high payouts.

Pornwolf · 01-19-2005, 02:57 AM

I actually started out on AVS as well. I went for the biggest payout companies that converted like shit and some even went belly up. I found my best pay came from a few AVS companies that rebilled consistantly and stayed open LOL. Cyber Age was one of them.

Thanks Dave, you have indirectly bought drinks for many many hot women over the past 5 years.

KCat · 01-19-2005, 03:11 AM

I've used ProAdult as my main AVS for just about 4 years now. Excellent rebills, though the conversions seem to be less than my paysites. The AVS model still seems to add up to more money for less hassle though.

hjnet · 01-19-2005, 03:13 AM

I always research on some bigger boards and google about a new sponsor before I signup, that just takes a few minutes but saves you a lot of trouble.

Project-Shadow · 01-19-2005, 03:22 AM

I do a little research on the sponsor first, then check out their sites or get a pass if its an AEN/AVS. If a sponsor doesnt have a history, or doesn't come up in good at all, best bet is to stay away.

RussianGirl · 01-19-2005, 03:35 AM

Of course it is reasonable to make a kind of investigation before starting to work with a new sponsor to get rid of troubles in future.
As I had with cyberage a couple of years ago when my account was blocked and I did not get any detailed explanation of this step and lost the money which was earned.
PS nothing personal

Jamie · 01-19-2005, 03:53 AM

Whoever converts the best initially, then whoever sends the check. Between the Free AVS's I use I dont use the one that pays the most. I've opted for the AVS that converts the best.

WWC · 01-19-2005, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

I actually started out on AVS as well. I went for the biggest payout companies that converted like shit and some even went belly up. I found my best pay came from a few AVS companies that rebilled consistantly and stayed open LOL. Cyber Age was one of them.

Thanks Dave, you have indirectly bought drinks for many many hot women over the past 5 years.

You say " Cyber Age was one of them." ..... Was? Is it still? Are you still promoting AVS sites? Just curious since many replies in this thread sounds like you have before in the past but dont anymore? Am i wrong? Just interesting to see who still does promote AVS sites?

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-19-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Project-Shadow

I do a little research on the sponsor first, then check out their sites or get a pass if its an AEN/AVS. If a sponsor doesnt have a history, or doesn't come up in good at all, best bet is to stay away.

Very well said.

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Top Jimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Down your street Posts: 2,513	I found being my own sponsor was best. I don't send hits/sales to anyone except me. When I first started with AVS back in 96 I built up enough equity to build my own. I then used that. I am about to start a paysite network since avs is just too much trouble as I am sure you're aware So many bad sites, fraudulent webmasters. I finally disallowed anyone to signup unless they were invited, or known by someone who was. __________________ Don't reply. Let it die.

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demon100 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,203	if you got a freesite mgp or tgp you can use my freehostedmovieseries to promote my AVS , it converts great and you dont have to host something yourself except the codes to get it on your site ... you get 10$ per sale and rebills __________________ Silvia Saint Full movies Sex movies

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Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	I do both, promote long term partnership type things with some traffic (for the bread and butter) and then the flavour of the month with other traffic... but every link code everywhere is dynamic so I can switch it instantly at the first sign of any funny business.

01-19-2005, 01:33 AM	#8
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	Hey Dave, I know what an AVS is, but what is an AEN? Seriously?

01-19-2005, 01:48 AM	#15
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I don't promote anyone that I don't know or investigate first.

01-19-2005, 02:38 AM	#16
theFeTiShLaDy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,615	when promoting a sponsor, you have to consider everything..from free content to converstion and from webmaster support to high payouts. __________________ I'm a freelance babe!

01-19-2005, 02:57 AM	#17
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I actually started out on AVS as well. I went for the biggest payout companies that converted like shit and some even went belly up. I found my best pay came from a few AVS companies that rebilled consistantly and stayed open LOL. Cyber Age was one of them. Thanks Dave, you have indirectly bought drinks for many many hot women over the past 5 years. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

01-19-2005, 03:11 AM	#18
KCat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: PNW Posts: 2,204	I've used ProAdult as my main AVS for just about 4 years now. Excellent rebills, though the conversions seem to be less than my paysites. The AVS model still seems to add up to more money for less hassle though. __________________ ~ 300+ FHGs, 100,000 pics to use plus a rockin' Video of the Day download! ~

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hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	I always research on some bigger boards and google about a new sponsor before I signup, that just takes a few minutes but saves you a lot of trouble.

01-19-2005, 03:22 AM	#20
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	I do a little research on the sponsor first, then check out their sites or get a pass if its an AEN/AVS. If a sponsor doesnt have a history, or doesn't come up in good at all, best bet is to stay away.

01-19-2005, 03:35 AM	#21
RussianGirl Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 48	Of course it is reasonable to make a kind of investigation before starting to work with a new sponsor to get rid of troubles in future. As I had with cyberage a couple of years ago when my account was blocked and I did not get any detailed explanation of this step and lost the money which was earned. PS nothing personal __________________ Are U a LOOSER? If not U are welcome to join our program to earn packs of real CASH. Still waiting!? Perhaps U are REALLY a fucking looser(((

01-19-2005, 03:53 AM	#22
Jamie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CelebPay.com Posts: 2,517	Whoever converts the best initially, then whoever sends the check. Between the Free AVS's I use I dont use the one that pays the most. I've opted for the AVS that converts the best. __________________ CelebPay: Promote Celebrity Reviews i/c/q - :1851935