The Pros and Cons of registrar's - GoFuckYourself.com

Andre · 01-17-2005, 08:57 PM

I know this topic has been covered to death at least 153 times, but I really want to hear from those who manage hundreds of domains and actually like their registrar.

Namecheap: Constant server outages. No phone support. However, good interface and set of tools.

GoDaddy: Bad reputation? Why?

Netsol: Great service, great tools, but very expensive.

Lets hear some other pros and cons?

AgentCash · 01-17-2005, 09:04 PM

Ev1Servers - Pros
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Cheap as hell
Tucows/OpenSRS reseller

Cons
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Pain in the ass to modify nameservers in bulk
Pain in the ass to lock domains in bulk
Pretty much a pain in the ass to do anything in bulk.

I wrote my own scripts to overcome the cons.

pubenemy · 01-17-2005, 09:05 PM

Namecheap is a reseller of enom I believe. Why not go to the source then... I have a bit over 100 domains with enom. Ive always been happy with the service.

The Heron · 01-17-2005, 09:10 PM

Directnic: kickass

Sama · 01-17-2005, 09:17 PM

Over 400 domains with Tightdomains.com
No problems ever.....It is my site.

arg · 01-17-2005, 10:45 PM

here are a few impressions....

godaddy: they've been rumored to disable domain names if they get a message from anybody saying the domain might have been responsible in some way for spam. i don't do mail marketing at all, but i wouldn't mess with a registrar that gets involved with spam issues - hosting companies should be involved, sponsors should be involved, but unless they have a court order, i don't want a registrar involved in that sort of thing. it adds the risk of critical downtime at any time...even if you never spam, someone can always say you did. (people have mistakenly reported me to hosts before, because of those viruses that forge random sender addresses out of an infected machine's cache).

joker.com: just avoid like the fucking plague. (if anyone from joker reads this, FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES.) for that matter, if you're in the US, i wouldn't use a non-US registrar without a good reason...they may be great, but if you have a problem you can't resolve, you're looking at a lot bigger hassle if you need to seek legal recourse.

bulkregister.com: really klutzy interface when you've got a lot of domains to manage. when you transfer domains in, different contact "handles" can get assigned to domains, and it's a hassle to unify the handles...lots of crap that takes a dozen of clicks and several keystrokes per domain. they also didn't handle reporting on large numbers of domains (things like 100 domain-per-screen limits). most problems they say "well use the api interface"...which is probably good advice, but i like a workable web interface for basic domain management. i haven't used them for a large quantity of domains in a couple years, so my info could be outdated.

enom: they never seem to fix anything correctly, from minor annoyances to occasional critical errors, and they deluge you with "your domain was renewed" messages for each autorenewed domain (one of those minor annoyances they couldn't seem to fix). if you've just got a few dozen or even a few hundred domains this is no big deal, but it's annoying when you get dozens of unimportant messages per day. the critical errors i've run into are fairly rare, involving not registering domains when they should have, and based on the frequency of problems i had when i used them a lot, most casual users would never encounter such errors.

dotreg: global registrar-lock and autorenewal commands don't work if you have too many domains...try asking them to do it manually and they still can't...and they seem generally unconcerned about it. don't mess with registrars that can't get your domains locked realiably!! renewal notifications are also jumbled, so it's difficult to discern what soon-to-expire domains you need to worry about (i.e. aren't on autorenew)...they warn you about autorenew names just the same, so you need to check everything manually. again - not an area to be messing around with. in many ways i think their user interface is the best around for managing a large number of domains, it's a shame they have a few critical weaknesses, and don't seem able to address them well.

directnic: listed prices are expensive, bulk prices aren't listed (presumably you can negotiate). i've had a couple database screwups with them, but good support in fixing them. i prefer no problems in the first place, but they've built a reputation for strong support. seems like a nice interface, with good add-on services available, if you want them. i recommend them to quasi-newbs who want to register a small number of domains. like if your grandma decided she needed a website, they'd be a good pick.

netsol: historically, like more than three years ago, they made damn near everything really hard, especially things involving contact/ownership changes, and they were hella expensive. they've changed a lot lately, and might be better now, i don't know. i'm pretty sure they're still among the most expensive.

domainnamesystems: i've had some problems because they used to use enom and act as a reseller, and some of those domains went missing from their database interface, causing big problems...but with new registrations and transfers you don't have to worry about that. support is very good. user interface is kinda gnarly, especially if you use firefox, and i think they don't allow global changes for all their options, though i could be wrong on that.

KRL · 01-17-2005, 10:47 PM

Put your top domains at Moniker.com. Monte handles them personally.

TheMob · 01-17-2005, 11:29 PM

is it worth saving a buck and using ev1? nope.

Pornwolf · 01-17-2005, 11:57 PM

Namecheap's interface can't be beaten.

arg · 01-18-2005, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Put your top domains at Moniker.com. Monte handles them personally.

I'm increasingly using Moniker, great support, though I didn't list them above as I haven't used them for a year yet, and you can't really judge a registrar until you see how they handle the details of renewals. I'm also not sure how well they'll scale as the business grows - they're cool now because of the personalized service, but it leaves to be seen how that will change if they grow a hundred-fold. I also find their web interface crude compared to several registrars mentioned above...it takes a lot more clicking to do some things. I'm using their API more than their web interface.

Andre · 01-18-2005, 09:46 AM

This is good info. But it leaves me thinking that if you want good all around service/tools then one might stick with netsol. I know that if I can't get something done with them using their interface, I can call 24x7 and they will do the right thing.

Any other opinions? I'd love to hear some more positivies.

Andre · 01-18-2005, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Put your top domains at Moniker.com. Monte handles them personally.

What if gets enough business where he won't be able to handle issues personally? Don't get me wrong. I like personal service in a small bisiness environment, but then again, as the business encreases....

01-17-2005, 08:57 PM	#1
Andre Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Inside Your Head Posts: 1,156	The Pros and Cons of registrar's I know this topic has been covered to death at least 153 times, but I really want to hear from those who manage hundreds of domains and actually like their registrar. Namecheap: Constant server outages. No phone support. However, good interface and set of tools. GoDaddy: Bad reputation? Why? Netsol: Great service, great tools, but very expensive. Lets hear some other pros and cons?

01-17-2005, 09:17 PM	#5
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01-17-2005, 10:47 PM	#7
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01-17-2005, 11:57 PM	#9
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Namecheap's interface can't be beaten. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

01-17-2005, 09:04 PM	#2
AgentCash Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 720	Ev1Servers - Pros ------------------- Cheap as hell Tucows/OpenSRS reseller Cons ------ Pain in the ass to modify nameservers in bulk Pain in the ass to lock domains in bulk Pretty much a pain in the ass to do anything in bulk. I wrote my own scripts to overcome the cons.

01-17-2005, 09:05 PM	#3
pubenemy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: SW FL Posts: 990	Namecheap is a reseller of enom I believe. Why not go to the source then... I have a bit over 100 domains with enom. Ive always been happy with the service.

01-17-2005, 09:10 PM	#4
The Heron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,488	Directnic: kickass

01-17-2005, 10:45 PM	#6
arg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,164	here are a few impressions.... godaddy: they've been rumored to disable domain names if they get a message from anybody saying the domain might have been responsible in some way for spam. i don't do mail marketing at all, but i wouldn't mess with a registrar that gets involved with spam issues - hosting companies should be involved, sponsors should be involved, but unless they have a court order, i don't want a registrar involved in that sort of thing. it adds the risk of critical downtime at any time...even if you never spam, someone can always say you did. (people have mistakenly reported me to hosts before, because of those viruses that forge random sender addresses out of an infected machine's cache). joker.com: just avoid like the fucking plague. (if anyone from joker reads this, FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES.) for that matter, if you're in the US, i wouldn't use a non-US registrar without a good reason...they may be great, but if you have a problem you can't resolve, you're looking at a lot bigger hassle if you need to seek legal recourse. bulkregister.com: really klutzy interface when you've got a lot of domains to manage. when you transfer domains in, different contact "handles" can get assigned to domains, and it's a hassle to unify the handles...lots of crap that takes a dozen of clicks and several keystrokes per domain. they also didn't handle reporting on large numbers of domains (things like 100 domain-per-screen limits). most problems they say "well use the api interface"...which is probably good advice, but i like a workable web interface for basic domain management. i haven't used them for a large quantity of domains in a couple years, so my info could be outdated. enom: they never seem to fix anything correctly, from minor annoyances to occasional critical errors, and they deluge you with "your domain was renewed" messages for each autorenewed domain (one of those minor annoyances they couldn't seem to fix). if you've just got a few dozen or even a few hundred domains this is no big deal, but it's annoying when you get dozens of unimportant messages per day. the critical errors i've run into are fairly rare, involving not registering domains when they should have, and based on the frequency of problems i had when i used them a lot, most casual users would never encounter such errors. dotreg: global registrar-lock and autorenewal commands don't work if you have too many domains...try asking them to do it manually and they still can't...and they seem generally unconcerned about it. don't mess with registrars that can't get your domains locked realiably!! renewal notifications are also jumbled, so it's difficult to discern what soon-to-expire domains you need to worry about (i.e. aren't on autorenew)...they warn you about autorenew names just the same, so you need to check everything manually. again - not an area to be messing around with. in many ways i think their user interface is the best around for managing a large number of domains, it's a shame they have a few critical weaknesses, and don't seem able to address them well. directnic: listed prices are expensive, bulk prices aren't listed (presumably you can negotiate). i've had a couple database screwups with them, but good support in fixing them. i prefer no problems in the first place, but they've built a reputation for strong support. seems like a nice interface, with good add-on services available, if you want them. i recommend them to quasi-newbs who want to register a small number of domains. like if your grandma decided she needed a website, they'd be a good pick. netsol: historically, like more than three years ago, they made damn near everything really hard, especially things involving contact/ownership changes, and they were hella expensive. they've changed a lot lately, and might be better now, i don't know. i'm pretty sure they're still among the most expensive. domainnamesystems: i've had some problems because they used to use enom and act as a reseller, and some of those domains went missing from their database interface, causing big problems...but with new registrations and transfers you don't have to worry about that. support is very good. user interface is kinda gnarly, especially if you use firefox, and i think they don't allow global changes for all their options, though i could be wrong on that.

01-17-2005, 11:29 PM	#8
TheMob Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 2006 Posts: 8,584	is it worth saving a buck and using ev1? nope.

01-18-2005, 09:46 AM	#11
Andre Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Inside Your Head Posts: 1,156	This is good info. But it leaves me thinking that if you want good all around service/tools then one might stick with netsol. I know that if I can't get something done with them using their interface, I can call 24x7 and they will do the right thing. Any other opinions? I'd love to hear some more positivies.