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Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Entropy
Same thing would have applied when he was just the son of the president.

Hes the Grandson not the son. If the grandon of the president would have worn a roman soldiers uniform to a party. Would that really be that bad?

Odin 01-13-2005 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaddam IV
Fucking jews getting worked up yet again.

More Brits and western Europeans were killed by Napoleon and the French in general. Would anybody have said anything if he wore a Napoleon-style hat instead?

They're only "sensitive" because the Jews won't drop it and forget it. They use every chance they can to remind us of the evil done to them by a people disconnected from the present generations by both age and ideology.

The one myth of anti-semitism is that holocaust is its logical conclusion. Jewish leagues try to reinforce this idea into society's consciousness in order to retain the Jew's victim and elevated status over all others, and to keep the Jews untouchable from criticism and constraint, allowing them to rise to power and eventually control society.

Why do people always apologize to the fucking jews?

Hey jews, FUCK YOU if you get offended.

Well said. Especially considering the Jews routinely offend just about everyone. Do some research and find out which nation prevented the US from officially recognising the Armenian Holocaust. Hell 25 Million odd Russian's where killed in WWII, but it seems their lives don't even matter.

DarkJedi 01-13-2005 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
I dont read the sun at all, so no I didnt see what they made up. Your getting your information from a paper that at best lies about everything. In the broad sheets it says the party was about Empire and Colonial. To which actualy the costume fits ok.

What he did was stupid. No more. But actually the mistake wasnt so much his but by his advisors. You would have thought someone would have told him that it wasnt the best thing to do

How about BBC ? Do they make things up too ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4170083.stm

Anyway, even if it was a "Empire and Colonial" party, it has nothing to do with the Nazis.

Entropy 01-13-2005 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
What he did was stupid. No more. But actually the mistake wasnt so much his but by his advisors. You would have thought someone would have told him that it wasnt the best thing to do

It was the advisors fault? Is Harry retarded?

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
How about BBC ? Do they make things up too ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4170083.stm

Anyway, even if it was a "Empire and Colonial" party, it has nothing to do with the Nazis.

Why didnt the Germans try and create an Empire or try to colonialise other people?

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Entropy
It was the advisors fault? Is Harry retarded?

No he just cant do what is ok for everyone else. You think if anyone else would have worn a nazi uniform to a party it would have got on the front page?

Thats why you have people around you to say, hey thats not a wise thing to do. It wasnt an insult to the Jews or anyone else who died in the war (including his own family) It was a silly thing to do by a young man who is 20 years of age who has a very different life than any of us

Rui 01-13-2005 04:08 AM

The kid deserves a big nice asskicking thats what he needs...

DarkJedi 01-13-2005 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Why didnt the Germans try and create an Empire or try to colonialise other people?

The Germans did. In 1871 - 1918

The Rhird Reich wasn't an empire.

Entropy 01-13-2005 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
The Germans did. In 1871 - 1918

The Rhird Reich wasn't an empire.

Exactly. The Third Reich only lasted 12 years. Not exactly an empire.

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
The Germans did. In 1871 - 1918

The Rhird Reich wasn't an empire.

empire = a group of countries under common leadership and run as a single organization

Thats exactly what the Third Reich tried to do and did succeed in doing to some extent. Ask the countries that were occupied by the Germans.

But its all incidental anyway. the question is. did Harry goes out of his way to offend everyone who died in the war or was he a bit silly.

I suspect he was a bit silly, but if you guys think that he on purpose tried to offend everyone who died Im not going to change your mind am I

woj 01-13-2005 04:18 AM

50 apologies...

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Entropy
Exactly. The Third Reich only lasted 12 years. Not exactly an empire.

Ha. How long do you have to rule other countries to be classed as an empire? I didnt realise there was a time scale before you become an emperor

DarkJedi 01-13-2005 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
empire = a group of countries under common leadership and run as a single organization

Thats exactly what the Third Reich tried to do and did succeed in doing to some extent. Ask the countries that were occupied by the Germans.

An empire comprises a set of regions locally ruled by governors, viceroys or client kings in the name of an emperor. By extension, one could classify as an empire any large, multi-ethnic state ruled from a single center. Like other states, an empire maintains its political structure at least partly by coercion. Land-based empires (such as Russia or Achaemenid Persia) tend to extend in a contiguous area; sea-borne empires, also known as thalassocracies (the Athenian and British empires provide examples), may feature looser structures and more scattered territories.

Third Reich wasnt an empire. Hitler had a vision to make a big German empire in Europe but he failed.

BTW, Hitler wasn't an emperror either.

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
An empire comprises a set of regions locally ruled by governors, viceroys or client kings in the name of an emperor. By extension, one could classify as an empire any large, multi-ethnic state ruled from a single center. Like other states, an empire maintains its political structure at least partly by coercion. Land-based empires (such as Russia or Achaemenid Persia) tend to extend in a contiguous area; sea-borne empires, also known as thalassocracies (the Athenian and British empires provide examples), may feature looser structures and more scattered territories.

Third Reich wasnt an empire. Hitler had a vision to make a big German empire in Europe but he failed.

BTW, Hitler wasn't an emperror either.

No he only failed when he lost, up untill then he was ruling an empire. The germans occupation and ruling of other countries fits exactly into your definition above. As you said "one could classify as an empire any large, multi-ethnic state ruled from a single center." thats exactly what the Germans where doing. Just because he ultimately failed doesnt take away from the fact that along the we they did indeed have an empire

He failed to maintain his empire as every empire in history has failed before him. He just failed alot quicker. Probably something to do with German Efficiency.

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
He wasnt emulating anything. It was a fancy dress party about empire he wore a costume that for anyone else would be ok. But because its him everyone is trying to read more into it


Well yeah but being his family's connection to this period of history maybe we should expect him to be a tad more educated on why it might just be unwise to dress up as a nazi.

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
2. It was a fancy dress party about Empires. Many people in the UK would have gone as a Nazi, no problem at all. We have since the war made jokes about the nazis. Its not uncommon at all. Its not fucked up at all, Becuase the media are politicle correct mad its been made a big deal. He wasnt insulting anyone.


I have lived in the UK for nearly a decade and not once have I seen anyone dress up as a nazi to go to a party. There are some things you don't do ESPECIALLY if you know you will have your photo taken which he should know by now.

Plus, once again his family was a slight player in the whole thing and it isn't like he is just a random person in the UK. Wonder if he could look the East End in the eye today..how about you?

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
BTW, Harry paternity is in question.
Saw an article with pics showing his resemblance to whoever that guy was that Diana was fucking on the side.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3..._hewitt300.jpg


yeah, it is fairly obvious, huh?

Entropy 01-13-2005 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
I have lived in the UK for nearly a decade and not once have I seen anyone dress up as a nazi to go to a party. There are some things you don't do ESPECIALLY if you know you will have your photo taken which he should know by now.

Plus, once again his family was a slight player in the whole thing and it isn't like he is just a random person in the UK. Wonder if he could look the East End in the eye today..how about you?

Thank you for clearing that up. These guys were really making me think that shit was cool in the UK...

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
Well yeah but being his family's connection to this period of history maybe we should expect him to be a tad more educated on why it might just be unwise to dress up as a nazi.

As in a lot of things, cannabis, getting drunk and fighting with photographers.

karlm 01-13-2005 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
No dont hate Americans at all. Just stupid people, often though its the same thing.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
I have lived in the UK for nearly a decade and not once have I seen anyone dress up as a nazi to go to a party. There are some things you don't do ESPECIALLY if you know you will have your photo taken which he should know by now.

Plus, once again his family was a slight player in the whole thing and it isn't like he is just a random person in the UK. Wonder if he could look the East End in the eye today..how about you?

Thats bullshit. People dress up as Nazis all the time. Mainly at fetish parties, but also at normal parties too. On television and real life.

Entropy 01-13-2005 05:41 AM

I can't believe this thread has so many replies...

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
Wonder if he could look the East End in the eye today..how about you?

I can look an east ender in the face. What you trying to say by that? You think you know about my family? What they did in the war?

Entropy 01-13-2005 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
I can look an east ender in the face. What you trying to say by that? You think you know about my family? What they did in the war?

Dude, you must be smoking some killer weed. That shit has you paranoid...

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
I can look an east ender in the face. What you trying to say by that? You think you know about my family? What they did in the war?


um...I was talking about Harry's family and reffering to his great grandmother's famous qoute during the war.

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Entropy
Dude, you must be smoking some killer weed. That shit has you paranoid...

Im answering what she said to me which was "Wonder if he could look the East End in the eye today..how about you?"

Did you read that?

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Thats bullshit. People dress up as Nazis all the time. Mainly at fetish parties, but also at normal parties too. On television and real life.

right...at an extreme fetish club you might see the ss uniform and that is stupid but at a normal party you would never see it unless you are going to BNP parties. The people I hang with would give anyone that showed up to a party in a nazi uniform a good kicking.

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
As in a lot of things, cannabis, getting drunk and fighting with photographers.

which just goes to show this boy's intellegence

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
um...I was talking about Harry's family and reffering to his great grandmother's famous qoute during the war.

So were not talking about Harry making a silly choice for a costume at a fancy dress party now?

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Im answering what she said to me which was "Wonder if he could look the East End in the eye today..how about you?"

Did you read that?

again...'he' was Harry ..who I thought this thread was about.

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
which just goes to show this boy's intellegence

Hes definatly not the sharpest tool in the box.

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
So were not talking about Harry making a silly choice for a costume at a fancy dress party now?


no we are talking about a retarded man - not child..at 20 most people are no longer kids - making a seriously dumbass choice that he shouldn't just be able to blame on his minders. I didn't have minders to tell me what clothing to wear when I was 20 did you? We are talking about someone who is only a few generations removed from people that should bitch slap him until he understands exactly why people might be upset with a member of the British royal family - or any British person for tha tmatter - feeling nazis are a laughing manner.

I have an idea...lets go dress up as IRA bombers and go to a party with Charles. Or better yet..you dress up as Lord Mountbatten and I will be the bomb and see if they think that is funny. After all that was over 20 years ago..time to laugh at it.

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
right...at an extreme fetish club you might see the ss uniform and that is stupid but at a normal party you would never see it unless you are going to BNP parties. The people I hang with would give anyone that showed up to a party in a nazi uniform a good kicking.

Not correct. Ive been to many fancy dress parties. People were soldiers uniforms from Romans to Nazis. There not saying the support the Romans, the Nazis or anyone else. They hired a costume from a fancy dress shop and wore it.

Your reading to much into it. Or are you saying hes a Nazi sympathizer?

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
I didn't have minders to tell me what clothing to wear when I was 20 did you?

Im not the prince of England are you?

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feeling nazis are a laughing manner
Malcome & Wise
Monty Python
Faulty Towers
Little Britain
Carry On Films

You heard of them? We have a long tradition in this countryt at laughing at Nazis actually, as you stated you have lived here for 10 years you not seen these?

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 06:01 AM

what kind of fancy dress parties do you go to that nazi is an okay costume? Don't make it sound like everyone in the UK is going around going 'ha ha wasn't Hitler such a laugh' - it just isn't true and you know there will be people here that believe you.

Nazi Sympathizer? I don't know him personally to know. Stupid and careless? yes. It does take a certain mindset to think it is okay to wear these costumes in the first place. What is he doing next year? Going in black face? I see these things are parallels.

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
Don't make it sound like everyone in the UK is going around going 'ha ha wasn't Hitler such a laugh' - it just isn't true and you know there will be people here that believe you.

we have laughed and dressed up as Nazis since the war and in the war.

Malcome & Wise
Monty Python
Faulty Towers
Little Britain
Carry On Films

Sarah_Jayne 01-13-2005 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Malcome & Wise
Monty Python
Faulty Towers
Little Britain
Carry On Films

You heard of them? We have a long tradition in this countryt at laughing at Nazis actually, as you stated you have lived here for 10 years you not seen these?

right..firstly ALL of those films/comedy shows are making fun of the Nazis..dealing through humour. There is a vast difference. Was harry doing that? I highly doubt he has the intellegence.

I love the film version of The Producers..Springtime For Hitler *is* funny because it is someone that UNDERSTANDS what they are doing and laughing instead of crying. This is an ignorant 'kid' showing his ignorance and thumbing his royal nose to people (whose families are paying for his existance btw) who died to keep his ass in silk diapers.

oh and as far as not being a Prince? The boy went to one of the most highly thought of boarding schools in the world...they didn't teach him how to dress himself? If he can't make these simple calls of judgment then I agree he shouldn't be going to Sandhurst.

If an MP was seen in the same uniform he would be thrown out of government and you know that is true. Why does this twerp get special treatment?

Johny Traffic 01-13-2005 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
right..firstly ALL of those films/comedy shows are making fun of the Nazis..dealing through humour. There is a vast difference. Was harry doing that? I highly doubt he has the intellegence.

You wasnt at the party. You dont know why he was wearing it. I expect it was to make fun not to offend 1000's of British people who died in the war.

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

If an MP was seen in the same uniform he would be thrown out of government and you know that is true. Why does this twerp get special treatment?

He gets special treatment because hes the prince. Hes not elected. Its as simple as that. When you have a monarchy you have them whatever they do. Right, wrong, good, bad, silly, clever...... Your stuck with them.

Entropy 01-13-2005 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
You wasnt at the party. You dont know why he was wearing it. I expect it was to make fun not to offend 1000's of British people who died in the war.



He gets special treatment because hes the prince. Hes not elected. Its as simple as that. When you have a monarchy you have them whatever they do. Right, wrong, good, bad, silly, clever...... Your stuck with them.

Who in the hell would wear a Nazi uniform to make fun of Nazis?

s9ann0 01-13-2005 06:16 AM

I like the guy I think he doesn't really like the position hes found himself in and doesn't really want much to do with the royal bollocks! maybe he is making sure he will never have to be king


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