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sweetcuties 01-11-2005 11:25 AM

Um, here's an idea... don't spam and terminate ANY affiliate who does! To many people turn an eye because of this " in crowd" shit.

Just my opinion. I don't care if you agree or disagree

abadfish 01-11-2005 11:26 AM

Am I the only one that thinks this is a good thing? Does anyone really like spam? (Besides spammers) and I don't think its appropriate for adult spam anyways...

Nismo 01-11-2005 11:26 AM

Wow. I just turned on CNN Headline News and the first story I see is this one. This shit is gonna be huge and most likely the first of many.

Manowar 01-11-2005 11:29 AM

http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/11/news..._spam/?cnn=yes

SetTheWorldonFire 01-11-2005 11:29 AM

dayum... that's gotta suck :(

candyflip 01-11-2005 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ytcracker
reflected recently changed hands into totally new management

they dont have shit to do with this anymore

Maybe not anymore, but they played a big role in the entire operation. I don't think a change in management is going to cover them here.

The business was directly associated with what was going on. They will be caught up in all this whether you think they will or not.

FightThisPatent 01-11-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetcuties
Um, here's an idea... don't spam and terminate ANY affiliate who does!


many sponsors have it in their TOS about a no-spamming tolerance, but some affiliates still do it.

For sponsors, be sure to check your TOS and to show you have a zero tolerance, otherwise you could be condoning the actions and be held just as liable.

Earthlink is very aggressive, going to the point of subpeonaing credit card processors for their clients info to track down spam.

Earthlink vs. John Does is the court filing against spammers:
http://www.earthlink.net/about/press/pr_AllianceFAS/



Fight the mapS!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-11-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ytcracker
reflected recently changed hands into totally new management

they dont have shit to do with this anymore


Thats like standard procedure now aint it?

Something gets fucked up its time for "New Management".
Thats what they all say.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

TKoProductions 01-11-2005 11:32 AM

dayum, this thread's exploding, i better get my sig placement in quick!

the only reason that this topic is attracting as much attention as it has, is because of the large percentage of folks in this industry that spam themself.

truth = sad

candyflip 01-11-2005 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKoProductions
dayum, this thread's exploding, i better get my sig placement in quick!

the only reasone that this topic is attracting as much attention as it has, is because of the large percentage of folks in this industry that spam themself.

Well...that, or the fact that the owners were on this board a few days ago calling this nothing but lies and saying that all was well in Signup4CashLand.

xlogger 01-11-2005 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo
Wow. I just turned on CNN Headline News and the first story I see is this one. This shit is gonna be huge and most likely the first of many.

its fucking on CNN!??

TKoProductions 01-11-2005 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip
Well...that, or the fact that the owners were on this board a few days ago calling this nothing but lies and saying that all was well in Signup4CashLand.

I think I like my reason better.....but yours is a pretty good one too!

(actually, I think you're probably right; the fact that they got caught in a lie fuels the inferno)

Nismo 01-11-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKoProductions
dayum, this thread's exploding, i better get my sig placement in quick!

the only reason that this topic is attracting as much attention as it has, is because of the large percentage of folks in this industry that spam themself.

truth = sad

That's because it's an easy way to clear $1mil a year, easy, especially with adult sites. Who's going to turn down that money? A pornographer?

Nismo 01-11-2005 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger
its fucking on CNN!??

It was on CNN Headline News & MSNBC

Manowar 01-11-2005 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger
its fucking on CNN!??

You thought it wouldnt be ?

ytcracker 01-11-2005 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip
Maybe not anymore, but they played a big role in the entire operation. I don't think a change in management is going to cover them here.

The business was directly associated with what was going on. They will be caught up in all this whether you think they will or not.

well in all actuality its just because the commonality in corporate officers

youll see what i mean soon enough reflected was sold not just repositioned or reorganized

xlogger 01-11-2005 11:40 AM

So what do you think will happen to these guys? Do you think they will server jail time or just pay a huge fee? :Oh crap

candyflip 01-11-2005 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ytcracker
well in all actuality its just because the commonality in corporate officers

youll see what i mean soon enough reflected was sold not just repositioned or reorganized

Right...BUT, they were part of the operation and "problem" that the FTC has filed the complaint against.

I was a Signup4Cash affiliate and they set me up with hosting on Reflected servers. That's the link and that's all there needs to be.

You've dealt with the Gov't before right? You know they don't like to leave anyone out of the loop :winkwink:

TKoProductions 01-11-2005 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo
That's because it's an easy way to clear $1mil a year, easy, especially with adult sites. Who's going to turn down that money? A pornographer?

Signup4Cash, or I should say its "old management" was hitting AOL HARDCORE for the past 3 years. And it wasn't no affiliates. I know this for a fact. You're bound to draw attention when you mess with the big boys. When I saw the coverage and penetration that they had, I knew it was only a matter of time.

Loadie 01-11-2005 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKoProductions
dayum, this thread's exploding, i better get my sig placement in quick!

the only reason that this topic is attracting as much attention as it has, is because of the large percentage of folks in this industry that spam themself.

truth = sad

i sense some truth to your statement. :2 cents:

Nismo 01-11-2005 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKoProductions
Signup4Cash, or I should say its "old management" was hitting AOL HARDCORE for the past 3 years. And it wasn't no affiliates. I know this for a fact. You're bound to draw attention when you mess with the big boys. When I saw the coverage and penetration that they had, I knew it was only a matter of time.

Yup. I know more than you think. In all honestly, I can't believe they lasted this long.

erehwon 01-11-2005 11:50 AM

Get used to this, its the begining of the end... :helpme

Drake 01-11-2005 11:50 AM

Nothing is wrong with "Spam" as long as the Can-Spam Law is followed. They allegedly weren't following it.

andrej_NDC 01-11-2005 11:51 AM

When Vegas Playa started the first thread, it was full of S4C asskissers, who told how great and honest the crew is. Where are those people now? :1orglaugh

tranza 01-11-2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

TKoProductions 01-11-2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loadie
i sense some truth to your statement. :2 cents:

It's amazing to see whos ears perk up when you're at a convention and you drop innuendoes that only people of the underground would have reason to know about.

It's quite interesting.

ytcracker 01-11-2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
When Vegas Playa started the first thread, it was full of S4C asskissers, who told how great and honest the crew is. Where are those people now? :1orglaugh

theyre still my boys

antis are fuckin gay

i dont even spam anymore but they are seriously a bunch of jobless losers who think they are batman

they shut down my site all the time for no reason its seriously retarded

Rui 01-11-2005 11:52 AM

Wish things like this happend to many more sponsors that come to my mind....

http://www.thepornland.com/images/lol.jpg
lol shit happens eh..

Rui 01-11-2005 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erehwon
Get used to this, its the begining of the end... :helpme

I'm all for the end of more spammers, I don't see why don't you understand how great this sort of actions is for our industry...

SmokeyTheBear 01-11-2005 11:58 AM

I notice it says * emails must contain valid physical postal address ??

I never noticed that part of the can spam act ..

Anyways this is only breaking news for those not involved. Those involved knew it was coming :)

LadyMischief 01-11-2005 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM
?Spammers beware. We are on the side of parents and kids to protect their ability to filter out sexually-explicit e-mails.?

Hear that guys? Start using proper subjects. :)


Exactly.. How fucking hard is it so put "sexually explicit" in the subject line? How many sales are they really going to loose if they actually subject themselves to filters.. not any morethan they are losing now. And this simple "oversight" is going to end up with people either jailed, or subjected to heavy fines. It could have all been avoided had they actually adhered to the law. Retards.

xlogger 01-11-2005 12:00 PM

fucking antis!!

FightThisPatent 01-11-2005 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
I notice it says * emails must contain valid physical postal address ??

I never noticed that part of the can spam act ..


http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/canspam.htm


last bullet point under "what the law requires"




Fight the Details, Details, Details!

vicki 01-11-2005 12:10 PM

IMHO that was a booming loud statement the feds made by showing up at the convention.
It would be totally different if they serves via knocking on individual doors, by crashing the most popular show in the industry they have made their plans clear.
And notice how its been spread to all the media types.

the climate has been changing for years not but NOW you can SMELL it!!!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-11-2005 12:13 PM

less spam = More traffic to pass around.
This is a good thing and should be done more often :2 cents:

People come to us regardless, the more prosecutions the better for everyone.

MickeyG 01-11-2005 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMischief
Exactly.. How fucking hard is it so put "sexually explicit" in the subject line? How many sales are they really going to loose if they actually subject themselves to filters.. not any morethan they are losing now. And this simple "oversight" is going to end up with people either jailed, or subjected to heavy fines. It could have all been avoided had they actually adhered to the law. Retards.

by adding the SEXUALLY-EXPLICIT tagline into your subject you will lose an extremely large percentage of your mailings, even if it was opt-in.

I guess they were more focused on the rewards rather then the risk

FightThisPatent 01-11-2005 12:14 PM

AVN article with some additional news items (interviews):
http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=212513



Fight the Reading!

vicki 01-11-2005 12:15 PM

Alien

although I'm on the side of stopping spam .. this is more than it appears imho

bdld 01-11-2005 12:17 PM

the rules were pretty clear, they willingly chose not to follow them. they dug their own grave.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-11-2005 12:17 PM

We know how these things play out though.

They make millions get a slap on the wrist end of show.
Done and then they come back with a new outfit. Maybe I am gettin bored of this business, its always the same.


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