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Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 06:43 AM

Just curious because whenever I click their paysite tour links I go straight to some generic dialer, not even to the niche I'm trying to reach. http://access.rapid-pass.net/

I assume they believe that due to the country I'm surfing from that the people driving the big Benz Kompressors, Jags, private yachts and chartered jets all around me don't have credit cards.

Ya.

AST

Dalai lama · 01-09-2005, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

I assume they believe that due to the country I'm surfing from that the people driving the big Benz Kompressors, Jags, private yachts and chartered jets all around me don't have credit cards.

those people have private hookers, are married 5 times and got 20 girlfriends who they fuck daily

NickB. · 01-09-2005, 07:15 AM

it should be in the terms and conditions an extra income to pay you per trial sign up the amount they do

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 07:31 AM

I'm not concerned with their terms. I was just checking links and wondered.

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those people have private hookers, are married 5 times and got 20 girlfriends who they fuck daily

Yes, but there are also the 300,000 working class here who all bank at the 150 local bank branches and have Visa and Mastercard debit cards and regularly use them at both of the Wal-Marts and Home Depot, Office Max, Costco etc.

This is a place where everything is sold in "12 easy payments" and the people who have computers usually have broadband and also debit cards with which buy porn.

I was just thinking that if I was trying to join a site and got kicked off to some irrelevant dialer because of my location it would kind of piss me off into not joining anything.

andrej_NDC · 01-09-2005, 07:34 AM

epiccash pays per dialers, yes

Dalai lama · 01-09-2005, 07:35 AM

Do you work for http://cswcash.com/ ?

andrej_NDC · 01-09-2005, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

I'm not concerned with their terms. I was just checking links and wondered.

Yes, but there are also the 300,000 working class here who all bank at the 150 local bank branches and have Visa and Mastercard debit cards and regularly use them at both of the Wal-Marts and Home Depot, Office Max, Costco etc.

This is a place where everything is sold in "12 easy payments" and the people who have computers usually have broadband and also debit cards with which buy porn.

I was just thinking that if I was trying to join a site and got kicked off to some irrelevant dialer because of my location it would kind of piss me off into not joining anything.

you cannot pay online with a debit card

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 07:38 AM

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Do you work for http://cswcash.com/ ?

No. My wife and I used to own 6 of the sites in that program but I sold them about 3 weeks ago. Coincidence that I just deleted the link from my sig at the moment you were posting this

Dalai lama · 01-09-2005, 07:40 AM

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No. My wife and I used to own 6 of the sites in that program but I sold them about 3 weeks ago. Coincidence that I just deleted the link from my sig at the moment you were posting this

Congrats on the sale

is tam around at the moment?

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 07:45 AM

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you cannot pay online with a debit card

Of course you can. I have credit as well as debit cards and I can use them all online.

A debit card is just a visa or mastercard branded card linked to your checking account, just like an e-pass virtual visa which is not a credit card. It's a debit card to be used online.

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 07:46 AM

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Congrats on the sale

is tam around at the moment?

No Idea. I have talked to her once in 3 weeks. She lives in US and I don't. Try to hit her on ICQ, she'll probably answer you right when she sees the msg.

andrej_NDC · 01-09-2005, 07:51 AM

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Of course you can. I have credit as well as debit cards and I can use them all online.

A debit card is just a visa or mastercard branded card linked to your checking account, just like an e-pass virtual visa which is not a credit card. It's a debit card to be used online.

well, yes, you need a special debit card for online use, but you cannot buy online with a typical debit card. Even epassporte gives you 2 numbers, you cannot pay online with the electronic debit card, only with the virtual card.

chemicaleyes · 01-09-2005, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

you cannot pay online with a debit card

one of the stupidest comments on gfy for a while

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

well, yes, you need a special debit card for online use, but you cannot buy online with a typical debit card. Even epassporte gives you 2 numbers, you cannot pay online with the electronic debit card, only with the virtual card.

Bullshit.

Almost all check / debit cards are branded Visa or Mastercard. You can use them exactly like a credit card and the funds come out of your checking account. You can use them to rent cars, buy airline tickets, buy recurring memberships, use them for a paypal verification card or use them to load epass right from your bank account.

andrej_NDC · 01-09-2005, 08:01 AM

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one of the stupidest comments on gfy for a while

please learn what a debit card is, first, few processors accept debit cards, but only from a few countries

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 08:04 AM

If I had my entire office set up here I would scan my card and show you the visa logo on it and that it says check debit card.

chemicaleyes · 01-09-2005, 08:05 AM

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please learn what a debit card is, first, few processors accept debit cards, but only from a few countries

I really think you are the one that needs to learn what a debit card is.

A debit card will debit only actual money you have in your current/cheque account.

Again "you cannot pay online with a debit card" is one of the stupidest comments I have ever seen on gfy.

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

please learn what a debit card is, first, few processors accept debit cards, but only from a few countries

Whatever. I'm here to tell you that I own my processing and I have people who use their debit cards (branded visa or mastercard) from all over the world. Israel, Italy, France, US, Canada .. etc. .. etc. ..

I think you're confusing the definition of debit card with the definition of "ATM Only" card .. which is not a branded visa or mastercard.

Just the mere definition of "debit" means it "debits" your account. On or offline.

chemicaleyes · 01-09-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

please learn what a debit card is, first, few processors accept debit cards, but only from a few countries

and if so few processors accept debit cards, how come I and many, many others pay for near everything online with a debit card, lol

SpeakEasy · 01-09-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

well, yes, you need a special debit card for online use, but you cannot buy online with a typical debit card. Even epassporte gives you 2 numbers, you cannot pay online with the electronic debit card, only with the virtual card.

You are totally wrong. With real bank debit cards you can buy online, offline whatever, it's only with garbage like epassportr, and other "shakey at best" type cards that you have issues buying online or even offline with.

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes

A debit card will debit only actual money you have in your current/cheque account.

I'm positive he's confusing a visa or mastercard branded checking (or savings) account debit card (which is not a credit card but is used the same way) with an ATM card, which cannot be used online.

Jon2 · 01-09-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

I'm positive he's confusing a visa or mastercard branded checking (or savings) account debit card (which is not a credit card but is used the same way) with an ATM card, which cannot be used online.

Took the words out of my mouth...

ATM CARD = PIN REQUIRED

DEBIT CARD = EITHER RUN AS CREDIT CARD OR ATM CARD...

Jon

chemicaleyes · 01-09-2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

I'm positive he's confusing a visa or mastercard branded checking (or savings) account debit card (which is not a credit card but is used the same way) with an ATM card, which cannot be used online.

Yeah looks like that, but he's the one arguing about it, lol - I really don't see how any adult with a bank account making money could confuse them though.

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes

Yeah looks like that, but he's the one arguing about it, lol - I really don't see how any adult with a bank account making money could confuse them though.

LOL. I see what you mean. I agree.

andrej_NDC · 01-09-2005, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chemicaleyes

Yeah looks like that, but he's the one arguing about it, lol - I really don't see how any adult with a bank account making money could confuse them though.

"debit card" means not the same in each country. Its a PIN card here and cannot be used for online payments.

chemicaleyes · 01-09-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

"debit card" means not the same in each country. Its a PIN card here and cannot be used for online payments.

A debit card is a debit card, lol - they work the same in the USA, EU, Asia etc...
Online you give your card#, exp date and the cuv# and payment is made.
Offline you go in to a shop, swipe the card and pay or the newer system is stick the card in a little machine and tap in your pin# and then payment is made.

and debit card means the same thing to any bank anywhere in the world.

chemicaleyes · 01-09-2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

"debit card" means not the same in each country. Its a PIN card here and cannot be used for online payments.

Where in the world are you that "debit card" doesn't mean "debit" money from my/your account for whatever it is you are buying?

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 09:01 AM

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Where in the world are you that "debit card" doesn't mean "debit" money from my/your account for whatever it is you are buying?

.. and don't be saying NL. I have clients in NL with "debit cards".

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

"debit card" means not the same in each country. Its a PIN card here and cannot be used for online payments.

Yes, A PIN (Personal Identification Number) card would be an ATM card. Not carrying the visa/mastercard logo and used to withdraw cash from the ATM and at POS terminals using a PIN keypad and requiring no signature.

chemicaleyes · 01-09-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

Yes, A PIN (Personal Identification Number) card would be an ATM card. Not carrying the visa/mastercard logo and used to withdraw cash from the ATM and at POS terminals using a PIN keypad and requiring no signature.

Yep a PIN Card/ATM Card/Cash Card etc... Really can't see what he is having so much trouble understanding.. (PIN Card/ATM Card/Cash Card) are very different from debit cards on the fact that they can only withdraw money not debit it.

candyflip · 01-09-2005, 09:14 AM

Viva Mexico!

chemicaleyes · 01-09-2005, 09:20 AM

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Viva Mexico!

annoying sig, unless I'm stoned

Adult Site Traffic · 01-09-2005, 09:43 AM

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annoying sig, unless I'm stoned

LOL, like spaz bots. I see yellow spots now.

Well, as fun and pointless as this thread is, I think I'll go out to the island and rent a golf car, eat fish tacos, get drunk and play dodge-taxi this afternoon.

Laters

rowan · 01-09-2005, 11:59 AM

I think it's best to agree to disagree. In Australia you usually have a basic ATM card linked to your savings account, and/or a credit card which may also have your savings account linked to the card for ATM access only. If you press 'savings' at a merchant terminal you're required to enter a PIN, and the funds come directly from your account; if you press 'credit' then you sign the transaction slip and pay your credit bill when it arrives.

A Visa-style debit card which draws Visa transactions directly from the funds in your savings account is fairly rare, in fact it's only recently that it has been promoted on TV here. I've never seen or heard of a Mastercard debit card here.

Obviously, different parts of the world have different products and use different terminology.

rowan · 01-09-2005, 12:03 PM

Dragging this back onto topic - the sponsor may redirect to a dialer for reasons beside fraud or the belief that a surfer may not be able to complete a CC signup. For a while a major sponsor was redirecting Australian surfers to a dialer, even though we can't get enough of CC's (the average Australian spends more than they earn...)

The reason? The average payout rate for the dialer was higher for Australian surfers than CC signups.

VIPimp · 01-09-2005, 04:53 PM

Yes you get credit for the dialer usage.

Let me know if you have anymore q's, contact info in sig...

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2005, 05:20 AM

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Yes you get credit for the dialer usage.

Let me know if you have anymore q's, contact info in sig...

Thanks man. Ok, question answered.

infecto · 01-11-2005, 06:02 AM

In the US the true term of a debit card is a card that automaticlly will debit from your account. Can only be used where debit cards are accepted as you have to enter a pin number. Now a Check card is an enchanced debit card usually with VISA that allows you to use it wherever VISA is accepted. I think many of you are using the word debit card to cover check card as well.

Nathan · 01-11-2005, 06:22 AM

All this naming debate is useless...

Call it what you want. In europe, 90% of the Visa/Mastercard cards are _CREDIT_ cards.

99% of all _DEBIT_ cards in europe are _MAESTRO_ cards, which RIGHT NOW can NOT be used online!

Its useless to discuss stuff between europe and the rest of the world in terms of debit/credit/atm cards... its totally different in europe currently.

01-09-2005, 06:43 AM	#1
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Does EpicCash pay you for your traffic that they redirect ? Just curious because whenever I click their paysite tour links I go straight to some generic dialer, not even to the niche I'm trying to reach. http://access.rapid-pass.net/ I assume they believe that due to the country I'm surfing from that the people driving the big Benz Kompressors, Jags, private yachts and chartered jets all around me don't have credit cards. Ya. AST __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

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01-09-2005, 08:04 AM	#16
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	If I had my entire office set up here I would scan my card and show you the visa logo on it and that it says check debit card. __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

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01-11-2005, 06:22 AM	#39
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	All this naming debate is useless... Call it what you want. In europe, 90% of the Visa/Mastercard cards are _CREDIT_ cards. 99% of all _DEBIT_ cards in europe are _MAESTRO_ cards, which RIGHT NOW can NOT be used online! Its useless to discuss stuff between europe and the rest of the world in terms of debit/credit/atm cards... its totally different in europe currently. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

01-09-2005, 07:15 AM	#3
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	it should be in the terms and conditions an extra income to pay you per trial sign up the amount they do

01-09-2005, 07:34 AM	#5
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	epiccash pays per dialers, yes

01-09-2005, 11:59 AM	#34
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I think it's best to agree to disagree. In Australia you usually have a basic ATM card linked to your savings account, and/or a credit card which may also have your savings account linked to the card for ATM access only. If you press 'savings' at a merchant terminal you're required to enter a PIN, and the funds come directly from your account; if you press 'credit' then you sign the transaction slip and pay your credit bill when it arrives. A Visa-style debit card which draws Visa transactions directly from the funds in your savings account is fairly rare, in fact it's only recently that it has been promoted on TV here. I've never seen or heard of a Mastercard debit card here. Obviously, different parts of the world have different products and use different terminology.

01-09-2005, 12:03 PM	#35
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Dragging this back onto topic - the sponsor may redirect to a dialer for reasons beside fraud or the belief that a surfer may not be able to complete a CC signup. For a while a major sponsor was redirecting Australian surfers to a dialer, even though we can't get enough of CC's (the average Australian spends more than they earn...) The reason? The average payout rate for the dialer was higher for Australian surfers than CC signups.

01-09-2005, 04:53 PM	#36
VIPimp Marina WILL have my babies! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,234	Yes you get credit for the dialer usage. Let me know if you have anymore q's, contact info in sig...

01-11-2005, 06:02 AM	#38
infecto Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,697	In the US the true term of a debit card is a card that automaticlly will debit from your account. Can only be used where debit cards are accepted as you have to enter a pin number. Now a Check card is an enchanced debit card usually with VISA that allows you to use it wherever VISA is accepted. I think many of you are using the word debit card to cover check card as well.