chuuuch

:pimp

thanks
and I have yours as well...

sorry about missing the fun at Sapphires...but hey, I got a picture with Lemmy (sorry, will save that for another party thread ;-))

hey man, i'd love to talk to you someday too. i ahve been involved with clubs for over 10 years. been a promoter and Dj for most of it. i like to keep up with the folks that are parallel in the industry that i am. too bad we didn't run into each other.

D$
Just want to say thanks for another awesome party. The player's ball has always been a great event in my book, without any exceptions. This one topped them all for several reasons. The music was great (i loved seeing Cypress Hill), the atmosphere smelled wonderful, the babes were hot, business was productive, saw lots of old friends, met new ones and I gotta admit, I love the smaller crowds and the way they fill this new venue. The line outside wasn't even bad! Truly outstanding. Thanks again D and I really look forward to the next one!
Yan

likewise
I caught some of your tunes at the Extreme Party
I went from so-so musician to promoting and sticking with the industry to burning out on the bullshit, but have actually thought about jumping back in head first...

hit me up on ICQ or email and we can chitchat about it for sure

fuckin stc is the greatest

Hmm.. I wasn't going to post.

As a low-key sponsor (hey, we wanted to keep it this way) things definitely did not go as well as last year. Once you got inside it was great, but the problems with the door more or less made it unenjoyable for me due to one reason.

Clients.

Bottom line is companies do NOT sponsor these events to go party themselves. $10k can be better spent on partying ourselves at our own private room at nearly any club in town - if our goal was to just party as a company.

After about 30 minutes of arguing with venue staff, pushing through lines, etc. Myself and 4 other direct employees of mine (who luckily brought their Internext exhibitor badges that said Reflected Networks on them - the only way we got in.), finally ran into the door girl (D$'s wife? I think?) who was very nice and got us in as soon as she recognized us.

Up to that point, I was minorly annoyed but hey.. venue security can be a bitch and I was "prepared" for this. My concern was simply to get my customers in the door (literally 20-30 total people that are current Reflected customers who I met personally and handed their passes to prior to the show) so they could have a good time. My solution was to let myself stand out near security and point to people to get them in the door. I asked this politely, and was more or less told to get the fuck back or they were letting no one else in the venue at all until I left. Wtf?

I tried again, this time bringing ytcracker (this was NOT his problem to deal with, he was there on his own deal not with us - thanks for trying to help me out!) with me who had an artist's badge with him. We essentially got told the exact same thing, however this time luckily I spotted two of my customers in time and ytc got them in after about 10 minutes of arguing with the doorman until the red-coated lady came back and okay'ed it.

That was simply unacceptable, and talks w/ D$ "staff" were unable to resolve anything.

Again, the party was great once you got in. However, as a sponsor we sponsor these events for OUR CLIENTS (or prospects) - NOT for ourselves. We were entirely willing to spend the entire night out of the club, simply to ensure our clients made it in to have a great time but we were not allowed to do this.

I'm not talking crap, just trying to provide to folks a perspective from a smaller sponsor. D$ no doubt throws great parties, and I have a ton of respect for him - but the bottom line is when my clients are unhappy; I am. I didn't spend the money so I could go party with my co-workers - this is not what the conventions are about for us. Business first, fun second.

I'm not sure what could be done to resolve the issues, like D$ said the year previous was great and worth every dime we spent since our clients had an awesome time. This year I unfortunately cannot say the same thing. I think Sleazy more or less summed it up. Do whatever it takes to get your own security/door team in place who controls the doors. Even if it's just 2 or 3 people out by the door the entire night, pointing people out in the crowd. Also allow sponors a designated representative if they choose, to get people in who matter to them. When a sponsor hands out a pass, there should be a number of those passes GUARANTEED to get in the door and through any "lesser pass" waiting folks. I totally did not expect the entire pass count we issued to get in the door w/o hassle, as these events get huge. However I do expect a certain number of them whom I can personally waive in to get through w/o hassle to themselves, even if it means paying one of my employees to make sure they can get in.

I'm still collecting my thoughts about it all, as I have a few other situations to deal with at the moment. Sorry for airing anything public, but I'm pretty sure most everything is general knowledge.

D$ - great party, simply get the door issues straight and you'd have had an extremely happy sponsor again this year. I don't think any sponsors expect to be babysitted - simply find us a way to give us the tools for us to help you with this problem.

To all my clients who did get in - I hope you had a great time!

peace,


-Phil

thanks d - i walked in with my players card .. had a great time - cypress kicked ass

only in america: Sue people for toe stepping!!??
damn if u go to a judge n holland for this you get laughed at

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

She has a fractured foot. That's a bit much, IMHO. I also believe a couple of other girls were bruised.

We had passes from MensNiche.. Suite passes that Andy gave us .. and expected us to be able to get in with.. which we did not after 3 hours.

I had some man and his buddys RUN totally over me and almost knock me down in the line. If anyone heard or saw a very short, LOUD pissed off woman that was me lol
and after that.. they got in while we still stood there. It is all kewl though.
Just know that whoever you are that did that to me.. be very glad that I made my husband chill out... It took alot! :(

Sounds like you had a blast, that's what matters, that's how we roll. Thanks for the pic, another 1% off my legal bills, lol.

We had a great time hangin with all of you, see you all soon.

were you the other woman who got ran over by SleazyDream?

Also, a special shout out to Bailey, Maxine, and Lia...hope you all had fun, you guys are the best!

I need a pic to see.. this dude was short and fat :1orglaugh

D$, was the chair that broke a bench? Lots of folks threw alot of weight down on the only bench not reserved for the playa's...it was next to stairs to go down...it took a load.

Thanks for a great PB! Next time I will get the players card..VIP paper sucked :-)) But security spotted me and pulled me inside, I was impressed :-)

How can you top this event D$, your best yet by far :-)

I was wondering where you were running off to. I had to go to my suite in Mandalay to grab my Player's Cards. I looked around for a bit when I got down, but you, Tim, Rich, and that other guy were MIA.

:thumbsup

I'd like to know who broke the bench.

Yea thats just wrong!!! :mad: :mad:

The venue wants me to pay like $2000 for that bench.

We never made it inside and I do not foresee my ever trying again. No offence to you D$, nothing but love for ya?

Sykk, please give your wife my best... I am sorry to hear of her injuries... I was standing Next to your wife and have the bruises to show how UN-elite some folks truly are... I suppose it IS possible that when this person began SHOVING his way thru the people standing outside, he did not realize that there was a concrete wall about knee height on the other side of the people he was SHOVING... However, I do not believe this to be the case...

Don't know if it was alcohol or, a person who I have always believed to be a "nice guy" showing his TRUE colors... but to say that I was Upset would be the understatement of the decade... Trashed a new pair of pants and I have a black and blue knee twice it's normal size thanks to his ELITIST BULLSHIT...

I suppose his mother never taught him manners...
But to break the foot of a dear woman is unforgivable

No respect... taken or given
I push BACK
:321GFY

What would you have done if they told you to go back and change out of your suit and then you could come back?

Amen....

We had a great time after we got in. Was hard to get the bouncers attention even with the players cards. We had to keep yelling that we were sponsoring.

And sleazy, sure you might have been with a sponsor, and had to go on stage, but your a big boy, lots of people were getting pretty crushed when you started walking thru. I had to push a couple guys back so some ladies didn't get killed.

:disgust That is fucked up.

I assume they have insurance and are still trying to collect from you?

Do you have insurance to cover stuff like that for shows?

I hope so.

Did anyone see this? Was it just too many people trying to sit on it or deliberate vandalism? :(

:( :(