CD, the entire islamic world is out of wack and at fault.
They actually think we should stop this war during ramadan. They don't fucking get it!
Will the terrorists not attack us on christmas because its an american holy day?
this is what happends when the worlds lowest common denominator all ends up in the same religion.
These people (ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES) lack common sense and logic.


oh, how I wish I could meet them all in hell just to laugh at them for giving up there life for NOTHING.
I'd ask them where all the virgins osama and allah promised them for committing murder. haha

I think you have watched "A FISH CALLED WANDA" a few too many times Bro ... http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/eek.gif

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I've often pondered the various states of "wack"... and if one is "out-of-wack", does that imply that the rest of us are "in-wack"... or perhaps "have wack"? What exactly is "wack" anyway...?

12clicks, is it acceptable to disagree with people who want violence and genocide as a solution?

With that kind of narrow thinking, it's ovious we did not learn anything from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, did we?.

The Palestinians plant car bombs in the middle of Tel-Aviv and the israeli government brings air attacks and tanks in gaza in retaliation. That has been going on for years now and it doesn't work.

This is nothing new, they've been killing each other since the time of the Pharaohs!

Is this that type of future we want for ourselves? Your solutions is violence in perpetuity.

For each person we kill, there is 10 young men who will volunteer to suicide themselves to get back at us.

Please, let not ignore who created Osama http://www.msnbc.com/news/190144.asp

Perhaps we should look at what we do, when they come back home.

But genocide is the easy fix, while we bomd them, we don't have to think about how we created this mess.

I tried testing the poprock theory myself!
I bought 12.00 worth today when they hit the ground they do nothing.


I poored em in the toliet, pissed on em and my cock blew off!

Sorry bro, I don't know that program is.

you choose to learn at a flawed school and therefore your learning and perspective is also flawed.

It's time to expell any non-US resident with ANY connection to the middle east or islam.
We need to isolate these countries and fanatic religions until they become civilized enough to enter into our society.

12clicks, don't pull that white christian republican flag as a justification for your right wing ideology, your taste for blood, and your thirst for vengence!

I read it here http://www.bergen.com/news/candy1200110207.htm

You completely ignore the fact of the US involvment in the world, in the last 50 years have backfired. We overthrow or tollerate tyrant throughout the world, despite their brutality and crimes, as long as we can get cheap comodities from them.

That is more or less the argument used by isolationists in the United States in the 1940s who opposed fighting Hitler. "Nazism is an idea!" "You can't kill an idea!"

And yet we did.

Thats the root of the _real_ problem we have today. Not the peons who we go after.

when pop rocks are outlawed, only outlaws will have pop rocks

Where you serious about the pop rocks thing?

I don't get it.

WHAT THE FUCK do terrorists want with candy?

[hint]
12Clicks made a joke and we ran with it.
[/hint]

but the Fizzies could be a national security issue, if they're still available...

I am an idiot.

Dont you get it?

Pop Rocks will be the newest form of terrorism in county fairs, carnivals, outdoor concerts, and all other events using outdoor portable toilets or port-a-poties.

What was once an ideal place to hide a portable spy camera is now an ideal place for candy terriorism.

someone goes in to the porta-pottie, squats over the hole, squeezes off a couple turds, and pisses on the pop rock, then BAMM! It rips him a new asshole.

County fairs will never be the same.

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the FBI has to consider what kind of hell thousands of dollars worth of poisoned candy could create on Halloween night
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the only way they'll get my pop rocks is prying them from my dead cold fingers

12clicks, you right inger you, part of the problem? I just made a little comment about perceptions...that's all...remember, according to Pat Robertson anf company YOU are part of the problem, with all your pornography tearing at the fabric of society.

I'm all for going to war on this, but I'm not going to advocate such things as torture. It's easy to sit atop your high horse and talk about bombing these guys...well, where's your gun? Why aren't you on the frontlines?

for any webmaster who thinks a comparison to terrorism and porn isn't true got ready a couple of guys like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. Remember their little blame game after the attack? They were just ahead of their time...and remember who the attorney general is...he'd love nothing more than to lock up everyone who displays nudity on a website...you think his little "anti-terrorism" bill will stop at terrorists...wake up. Usually it's the liberals who are asleep and need a dose of reality, now it seems a few on the right wing side here need to wake up.

So, while I am all for retaliatory strikes, I could never condone torture tactics on induviduals who may have wanted to buy a little more halloween candy than usual...

What happens when this "war on terrorism" is over and you've started a precedent of no justice....do YOU want to face a jury defending cum splattered babes when some of those members would lvoe nothing more than to see YOU strugn up and tortured...you think that's far ftched? go viisit your local church and see who they rail against...

hehe, you ARE an empty headed woman,


No, the last fifty years of sending 100s of billions of dollars in aid to these savages is what failed. If these people were left to sink or swim on their own, they would not now be around to kill our people.

Just because you're afraid to take a stand, does not mean that your betters are too. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

Well, thats how things go, but we haven't done anything directly to those people, at least not a thing that would justify what they did. It's not our fault that they are lazy and undereducated (partly because of their religion) and therefore they hate us for being better off. I mean, what economy can afford not to use women in the workforce and this way lose half of its GDP? Not to mention their more inhumane practices that would depress any economy, even one as strong as the american. In short, what you do to yourself noone can do to you...And the US has not only taken, as you imply. Another thing is if it wasn't for the oil we buy from those people, they would be in the same situation as the Somalians. Now in most Arab countries they at least don't die of hunger, and some of them are doing quite well, frankly (and I mean not only the ruling class).

SykkBoy2, you liberal, halfassed, dope.

compairing porn with Americans dying kinda proves my point about you being part of the problem. This isn't about porn or will it ever be.
Stop pretending that anyone takes Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson seriously. Their argument is as moronic as yours.

If you don't want to advocate torture, that's ok, there aren't too many people with the will to back up their ideals.

Where's my gun? it's close enough by to kill terrorists. why do you ask?

It's so easy for your kind of whimp to espouse you're philosophy when other people carry your water by doing the job you're afraid to do.

I gotta call you a dope one more time for compairing porn to terrorist murder.

Wizdom, you still shy away from offering a workable alternate solution. You point out what's wrong, but offer no way of making it right. What's the right way according to you? It sounds as though you want us to do nothing.

As for the last 50 years, the ONLY reason that certain people in the world think your way is because the US doesn't allow tyrants to run roughshod over innocent people. Also, those that would be tyrants just HATE it when the US (and Canada) send billions of dollars worth of aid to the people they are trying to oppress. I say tough shit. It's time to again kick some ass, and it's time to show some of these extremist muslims how it really is in the world, that the evil west is NOT the evil west they have been led to believe it is.

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12clicks, first of all, I'm a libertarian ;))

as for comparing porn to terrorist murder, I'm not the one doing that, the right wing religious whackos are and if you think they aren't, well, you can't be helped...who do you think the next target for them is?

...and if you think Falwell and Robertson aren't taken seriously, you are seriously mistaken, but it's ok, I won't call you a "dope" because, for now, we all have a the lovely freedom of speech...for now...

who exactly do you want to bomb? Afhganastan? Iraq? Uzbekistan, idunnowhatthefuckistan? ok, so we're bombing their camps...do you really think they are even hanging out in their camps waiting for the bombs?

You want to kick out every who isn't a citizen? Psst, one word: Indians ;))

this is what kills me, I make a satiric comment and you get all defensive and start with the namecalling...isn't that what liberals usually do?

As for my gun, it's safely tucked away as well...I'm more afraid of irate rednecks with shotguns screaming about anthrax tainted candy than I am the taliban boogeyman...

and something I want to ask all the last minute patriots, where was this call to military action when they bombed our fucking embassy in Kenya? Did it really take a couple planes hitting buildings on our own soil to wake the fuck up? That's the saddneing thing...and I doubt a lot of these who are in this hizzy to get the last flag at their local Wal-Mart store can even finding fucking Kenya on a map...

left, right, a lot of people in the country just don't get it...

no you're not.

no, you ARE the one doing it. you cheapen all the American lives lost with your drivel.

anyone here take them seriously, please speak now. (lets see how long it takes to prove your point)

I'm smart enough to know that our military knows more than I do about this and I know better than to question what they are doing with out facts to back me up. You, obviously, do not. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

wow, you sure are tricky.

what kills me is when you call your kind on the carpet they cry, "oh, its satire"
The president you elected because your sorry ass didn't trust the constitution to protect your porn business sat on his hands when all this happened.
The presidents I voted for ALWAYS defended America.
Dope.

12Clicks has a point. I know it sounds pretty harsh, but this world's actions are based on survival of the fittest. Lots of pro's and con's to go with this argument, but sometimes the starving children commercials skew our society's perspectives. These are very complicated situations...


Picture the ongoing famine in the area...kind of Confucius meets Sam Kinnison:

"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime." - Confucius

and

"You live in a fucking desert! Move to where the food is!" - Sam Kinnison

CD, if we would have gone after all the tyrant in the last 50 years, then today we would have a better world, instead, let me show you a few exemple of what we did:

The <a href="http://foia.state.gov/HincheyReport.htm" target="_blank">Hinchey
Report</a> [state.gov], an official U.S. government document. The report says
that there is no evidence that the CIA killed the democratically elected leader
of Chile, President Salvador Allende. However, the report implies that CIA
encouragement influenced the people who did kill President Allende. The report
says that the CIA supported the dictator General Augusto Pinochet in becoming
president of Chile, and that General Pinochet became known for his human rights
abuses. Note that the Hinchey Report is from a U.S. government web site.</p>


Another example is General Noriega of Panama who had a working relationship
with the U.S. CIA for years before he was accused of selling drugs. Was the
exposure of Noriega caused by his not taking orders? A quick
<a href="http://www.google.com" target="_blank">Google search engine</a> [google.com]
search for
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Noriega+General+Panama+CIA&btnG=Google+Se arch">
&quot;General Noriega Panama CIA&quot;</a> [google.com] gave a link to a chapter in a book
by Noam Chomsky,
<a href="http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-2-05.html" target="_blank">The
invasion of Panama</a> [zmag.org]. Chomsky's book is called
<a href="http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html" target="_blank">What
Uncle Sam Really Wants</a> [zmag.org].</p>


Another link on the first Google page was,
<a href="http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia/blum1.html" target="_blank">The Real
Drug Lords: A brief history of CIA involvement in the Drug Trade</a> [magnet.ch]
by William Blum. These sources came from a quick
<a href="http://www.google.com" target="_blank">Google search</a> [google.com].
Possibly better sources could be found.</p>


There is many more, if you want o look for them.</p>

we will all be dead before this is over with.

They peaked in political influence 20 years ago when Falwell was still running the Moral Majority. The Moral Majority has long since closed its doors due to lack of interest, but even when it was a hot item it was never held accountable for any deaths, webmasters or otherwise.

Both TV evangelists are down in viewers and have mostly been driven to cable, no longer able to afford the air time costs of broadcast stations.

"W" was the first Republican nominee since Nixon not to attend Robertson's annual fund-raiser in 2000, reflecting its decline in importance to the Republican vote.

Their only remaining importance outside their own narrow circle is in fundraising for liberals. They're used as bogey men, along with Newt Gingrich, in scaring the feeble minded into contributing money to opponents of Republican candidates.

We get it. You fell for it.

wizdom, you share the same shortsitedness as bill clinton.

Someone with your kind of time on his hands could find 1000 times that number of articles supporting the other side of your argument/.

when taken in that context, you see your argument is meaningless. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

12 clicks, what do these misogynous remarks have to do with our discussion?

and

Your are not Napoleon but 12clicks! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif

12clicks, when you look at a picture form too close, you fail to see the big picture.

Come down from your big white horse from where you look at us all branding your right wing bloody sword of justice.

Our hands our as dirty as these guys are fighting!

well, obviously, you won't find support for Falwell and Robertson in this forum ;)

cheapening lives? Aren't you the one calling for the murder of innocents? I feel ALL life is precious...and I'm not even a damn Christian...

As for Clinton being soft on the Kenya incident, I totally agree...we should have taken action then...but I didn't vote for him, I voted for Harry Brown....so you voted for Bush who didn't finish the job in Iraq? Had he finished the job there, he would most likely have gotten re-elected...but like you, I don't have war experience to judge what couls hand/should have/would have happened...
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for defending ourselves, but I don't think rounding up innocent people in this country and torturing them is part of that...

I am most definately a libertarian (Hell, I don't always agree with the libertarian view either...)and a staunch defender of the constitution...sadly, it means I have to defend speech I don't necessarily agree with and there are a lot of things _I_ would personally love to see changed, but respect the constitution for what it is.



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When Winston Churchill invented the term "Iron Curtain" in 1946, encouraging the US to stand up to communism, nobody knew it would take 50 years to win the Cold War and freedom for Eastern Europe.

As it turned out, Truman, Kennedy, Churchill, and any other early cold warrior you wish to name, died before victory.

But, except for the "blame America" WiZd0m types, nobody thinks their efforts were in vain.

Defeating the World Trade Center butchers and their spiritual/political allies might take just as long, but it will be worth it too.

Their next target? Dude, they've had porn as their target for DECADES now, where've you been?

Yes, and we all know the types of people that take this type of shit seriously don't we? Real brainiacs that need a tele-fucking-vangelist to tell them how to think.

Again, criticism and negativity are easy. Let's hear solutions or get on with it.
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Public debate 101:

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i think we need to blow there whole country off the map, but if i said that it might start trouble, so i wont.

Thats not what I said BigDaddy, but do you think we are innocent?

Never did I tried to undermine the tragedy that happened last month.

Tell me, once we have flatten the few clay homes they have completely, killed Bin Laden, and destroyed his band of thugs, then what?

We go back as business as usual or should we look foir way to prevent this in the future?