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Old 01-04-2005, 07:42 AM   #1
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Super Polite Indian Programmer Again

ahahahah - i posted the other day about these Indian programmers/designers on Elance, how overly polite they are - well over polite compared to the savages in North America.

here's copy n paste of the last of today's conversation


Saffron (09:31 AM) :
based on your review points
Saffron (09:32 AM) :
so to sum it up I need to change the profile design?
mutt (09:32 AM) :
thanks Eswaran - sorry to be so demanding
mutt (09:32 AM) :
yes the profile needs work - that's my opinion
Saffron (09:33 AM) :
never mind Dan, do not be too formal, I think your my first client that you have made me look more like a friend
Saffron (09:34 AM) :
just my thoughts, I will do the changes and will send it to you tomorrow morning Dan
mutt (09:34 AM) :
oh - well that's nice - my philosophy is I treat people the same way I hope to be treated - the golden rule - if i get treated bad tho then ... : )
Saffron (09:34 AM) :
fine Dan, thanks and will talk to you soon , bye
mutt (09:35 AM) :
ok have a good day - bye
Saffron (09:35 AM) :
thanks and you too - bye
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Old 01-04-2005, 07:49 AM   #2
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looks like he's lonely and needs a buddy

btw is that elance site good?
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Old 01-04-2005, 07:52 AM   #3
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Wow.. thanks for posting that, Dan.

That was entertaining AND gave me a good insight on how these indian people
seem to deal with Americans. Great stuff Dan.

Have a great day, cant wait for your next post(s)!
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Old 01-04-2005, 07:53 AM   #4
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Old 01-04-2005, 07:54 AM   #5
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I have had bad experiences with Indian programmers. I am sure there are great ones out there but we have had some negative experiences.
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Old 01-04-2005, 07:55 AM   #6
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But to burst your bubble.. thats exactly the same shit he told me

Saffron (11:31 AM) :
based on your review points
Saffron (11:32 AM) :
so to sum it up I need to change the profile design?
MrThumbs (11:32 AM) :
thanks Eswaran - sorry to be so demanding
MrThumbs (11:32 AM) :
yes the profile needs work - that's my opinion
Saffron (11:33 AM) :
never mind Tony, do not be too formal, I think your my first client that you have made me look more like a friend
Saffron (11:34 AM) :
just my thoughts, I will do the changes and will send it to you tomorrow morning Tony
MrThumbs (11:34 AM) :
oh - well that's nice - my philosophy is I treat people the same way I hope to be treated - the golden rule - if i get treated bad tho then ... : )
Saffron (11:34 AM) :
fine Tony, thanks and will talk to you soon , bye
MrThumbs (11:35 AM) :
ok have a good day - bye
Saffron (11:35 AM) :
thanks and you too - bye
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Old 01-04-2005, 07:59 AM   #7
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All indian guys I talked in the past were VERY polite!
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Old 01-04-2005, 08:06 AM   #8
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Wow.. thanks for posting that, Dan.

That was entertaining AND gave me a good insight on how these indian people
seem to deal with Americans. Great stuff Dan.

Have a great day, cant wait for your next post(s)!
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Old 01-04-2005, 08:11 AM   #9
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I have had bad experiences with Indian programmers. I am sure there are great ones out there but we have had some negative experiences.
i've had fairly good experiences - i've never done anything large scale though because of the language thing - they speak English well but they don't get the nuances and slang plus most aren't all that familiar with the adult biz so then you have to explain to them what this and that means - not worth the extra hassle - i find it hard enough to explain what I want to American programmers.

Elance does have a good rating and review system - if you see like 20 positive reviews on a company on Elance I think you can be pretty sure you're going to have a good experience.
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Old 01-04-2005, 08:37 AM   #10
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indian copy/paste warriors?

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Old 01-04-2005, 09:06 AM   #11
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Its really funny reading your posts about this cos I actually manage a lot (around 20) indian programmers and I have given some out to GFY people in the past. I always wondered how americans and GFY people generally would handle it.

I am actually Indian myself (British born) but even I still sometimes get annoyed with the politeness thing. Its just as irritating when you call the bank and youre on the phone to some Indian call centre.

Its just that as Indian's we're always brought up to give maximum respect to our seniors and elders. Being based in a western country adds to that. Also most Indians are tought formal ie letter writing English as opposed to the informal usage in the states or the in UK.

The biggest problem ive had so far is that they tend not to read your instructions the first time around - this pisses me off no end.

Overall though, these guys are superb. They work hard, they will make sure youre happy, they dont complain much and they treat you like royalty. There's also a huge culture of bargaining for things in India so you can expect them to ask for more dough sooner or later. That said, you can get some extremely talented php scripters for like as little as 150 Rupees per hour (which is like $3.50). Not bad going....
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Old 01-04-2005, 09:20 AM   #12
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Its really funny reading your posts about this cos I actually manage a lot (around 20) indian programmers and I have given some out to GFY people in the past. I always wondered how americans and GFY people generally would handle it.
could you shoot me a message on icq?

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Old 01-04-2005, 09:23 AM   #13
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ahahahah - i posted the other day about these Indian programmers/designers on Elance, how overly polite they are - well over polite compared to the savages in North America.

here's copy n paste of the last of today's conversation
So do you publicly post all your private chats? Even those with whom you work?

I really don't think you have to be worried about getting short-changed on rudeness - with your approach to confidentiality, I have no doubt that your future will not be overly burdened with courtesy.

database updated...

I'm so very very sorry and I truly sincerely hope I did not hurt your feelings.

Can we have a group hug now?

-Dino
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Old 01-04-2005, 09:41 AM   #14
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Old 01-04-2005, 10:18 AM   #15
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So do you publicly post all your private chats? Even those with whom you work?



-Dino
what kind of douchebag are you, garden variety or extreme ?

the programmer has no clue GFY even exists, the possibility that he would ever find it is infintesimal.

now let's say you are with a group of friends and some funny little story recently happened in your life, and it involved some person in your life that none of your friends know or never will know, let's say a repairman who came to your house - and you recount the story telling your friends what the stranger said, and then what you said, and so on and so on ............
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what kind of douchebag are you, garden variety or extreme ?
ummm... garden variety. thanks very much for asking.

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Old 01-04-2005, 03:16 PM   #17
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Wow.. thanks for posting that, Dan.

That was entertaining AND gave me a good insight on how these indian people
seem to deal with Americans. Great stuff Dan.

Have a great day, cant wait for your next post(s)!

That was funny.
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