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Old 01-02-2005, 02:40 PM   #1
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CJ Ya C U N T S!!! Put up our vid, REMOVED watermark!!!

Hey,

You fuckers purposly re-edited our video and removed our watermark, we don't fucking produce vids to bring traffic to your site, without any fucking credit.

Either you fucking put up the orginal w/ watermark or remove the video immediately.

Fuck You Truely:

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Old 01-02-2005, 02:41 PM   #2
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... rick latona has been stealing content for many years now, funny how people still trust him with his afffiliate programs ....













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... rick latona has been stealing content for many years now, funny how people still trust him with his afffiliate programs ....
Yeah, he better fucking remove that vid... I can't fucking belive they removed the watermark!

Fucking re-edited it!

Whats his ICQ or Mark's...
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Old 01-02-2005, 02:47 PM   #8
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CJ is packed full of user submitted content, its amazing this doesnt happen more often
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if you just email them ( right on the site ) they remove anything you ask that belongs to you promptly

why get all pissy about it ?
so its your video .. its not like you would of made any money off that stupid video that i could not watch 5 seconds into
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CJ is packed full of user submitted content, its amazing this doesnt happen more often
User submitted?!!

I fucking doubt a user would go through the trouble or re-editing our video to remove the fucking watermark.
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if you just email them ( right on the site ) they remove anything you ask that belongs to you promptly

why get all pissy about it ?
so its your video .. its not like you would of made any money off that stupid video that i could not watch 5 seconds into
Hey fucktard,

My money is my business... so is having my fucking vids chopped up.

Mind yer own,
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Hey fucktard,

My money is my business... so is having my fucking vids chopped up.

Mind yer own,
Fuck you - who the FUCK do you think you are ? You are the idiot that can not simply EMAIL them first
you gotta run to the boards and make your self look like a god damn retard bitching about some stupid ass video about a dude sitting on a toilet
get the fuck over your self idiot
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Old 01-02-2005, 02:52 PM   #14
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My money is my business... so is having my fucking vids chopped up.

Mind yer own,
You post this on the busiest adult webmaster board and then want people to mind their own business?
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Old 01-02-2005, 02:53 PM   #15
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How do you remove a watermark?
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fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before
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How do you remove a watermark?
You zoom into the frame(s) untill the watermark is cut out.
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You zoom into the frame(s) untill the watermark is cut out.
Ah, ok, so they cropped it.

Who is that singing in that video? The religious music?
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You can see your water mark barley sticking over the water mark CJ puts on it, stop crying next time put ur water mark at the top so the CJ watermark doesnt cover it.

UNTIL THEN

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Its a pretty funny vid: orginal watermarked version here... hehe

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if you just email them ( right on the site ) they remove anything you ask that belongs to you promptly

why get all pissy about it ?
so its your video .. its not like you would of made any money off that stupid video that i could not watch 5 seconds into
By your rules I can make a paysite full of everyones eles content, remove the watermark..

And just have a email "right on the site" if people want stuff removed
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I'm glad that some people recognize that removing a watermark is stealing content.

For the rest of you that have nothing else to do but bash simply because you're bored, GFY.

I spoke to management and the video will be removed.

I hope this never happens again. We work too hard on our 'shitty' content to have it stolen & re-edited.

Smell ya l8r geeks.
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I'm glad that some people recognize that removing a watermark is stealing content.

For the rest of you that have nothing else to do but bash simply because you're bored, GFY.

I spoke to management and the video will be removed.

I hope this never happens again. We work too hard on our 'shitty' content to have it stolen & re-edited.

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If you spoke to them and its being removed, then why post it here.

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Get a life ass wipe. This person was ripped off. it does not matter if it was fucking


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Its a lawsuit waiting to happen actually...

Even if the content is submitted by non copyright holders and the content is posted there is legal liability.
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Quit bitching... that video sucked anyway
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Get a life ass wipe. This person was ripped off. it does not matter if it was fucking


they have a right to be pissed.

dude they wasnt fucking ripped off, No one removed there water mark fucking hell shut up

Example A:

You can see the water mark in the red circle

Example B:

You can see the edge of the water mark in this one with the red circle around it, Fucking CJ just adds a automatic watermark to all videos that are on their site, Big deal get over it, stop crying, I wouldnt have them remove it, I would be delited to have that traffic, Ask them to make a link back. Now pls

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You can see the edge of the water mark in this one with the red circle around it, Fucking CJ just adds a automatic watermark to all videos that are on their site, Big deal get over it, stop crying, I wouldnt have them remove it, I would be delited to have that traffic, Ask them to make a link back. Now pls
We would have been happy to send traffic back to him if he had asked nicely.

I'm in Vegas now and I'm not going to get in a lengthy content debate. There are numerous threads on this topic and everyone that knows us knows that we do what we can to avoid things like this and always take it down or send traffic back when something gets noticed. This video will be taken down.

Now, I'm going to hit the gym. l8r
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Get a life ass wipe. This person was ripped off. it does not matter if it was fucking


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wonder how long it would take....

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Yea you CJ fuckerz remover their content. (So there's more room for mine)
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We would have been happy to send traffic back to him if he had asked nicely.

I'm in Vegas now and I'm not going to get in a lengthy content debate. There are numerous threads on this topic and everyone that knows us knows that we do what we can to avoid things like this and always take it down or send traffic back when something gets noticed. This video will be taken down.

Now, I'm going to hit the gym. l8r
Wow, you stopped smoking and you're hitting the gym? Congrats
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How can sites like CJ or other style sites be legal? Accepting "User" submissions without verifying valid copyrights just sounds like it's asking for lawsuits.
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And just have a email "right on the site" if people want stuff removed
Yeah.. this guy need a brain transplant.. too funny..
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Umm, Rick, would it not be better to have your people contact the owners of watermarked videos BEFORE adding them to your site? I assume that someone reviews all videos to make sure you are not adding CP or snuff or whatever, so why not just take the step?

Remember, all content is copyright to SOMEONE.

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I've always wondered how Rotton.com, Ogrish.com, etc get away with copying and posting (often editing/adding their logo too) other people's pictures/video *without written permisson* for economic gain; commercial use.

Is such copying/editing they do legal or that no one has legally challenged them yet?

It really bothers me to see tunsami pictures / video that's been edited and degraded with logos/branding of such sites like Ogrish.com on them...

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Just read the thread again ... some of those services claim they just merely host user uploaded content.

With that said, the DMCA safe harbor provisions may *not* protect such sites *that brand content as being their own*, such Ogrish.com does; shown a pattern of knowingly hosting copyright content belonging to others in violation of copyright law.

So I guess in a nutshell, no one has really legally challenged such services yet ... ?

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Old 01-02-2005, 06:39 PM   #47
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pretty unfunny stuff on your site anyway, why the fuck anyone would want to steal it is beyond me
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Fucking re-edited it!

Whats his ICQ or Mark's...

Nadia,

First, I apologize for responding to you on a public forum. You see, I think the right way to handle something like this with someone that you've had a relationship with for YEARS, with someone who has sent YOU tons of traffic for FREE, would be to handle it one on one. What's my ICQ? Perhaps you should check your ICQ logs. My ICQ logs have conversations between the two of us going back to early 2003.

Or perhaps you should look at my responses to all the emails we've bounced back and forth. ALL my contact information is in my sig. If the shoes were reversed I would have called you on the phone instead of freaking out on a board. I guess we just do business differently.

For me, I would have a little more RESPECT toward a company that had run several THOUSANDS of dollars worth of free Video Sponsorships for me! But again, I guess we just do business differently.

I personally wouldn't treat anyone who had gone out of their way to help me like you have. If I approached someone asking about buying traffic, then found out I couldn't afford it, and then that someone GAVE me traffic because they liked my site/content I DAMN sure wouldn't behave this way because I don't like to burn my bridges, ESPECIALLY with someone who has tried so hard to help me. I guess we just do business differently.

Now, to the issue at hand. Your own popularity is to blame. Tough problem to have. The video WAS submitted to us without your watermark. There is simply no way for us to tell where all the content that gets submitted to us comes from. I agree that it's unlikely any of our fans would download your clip, remove the watermark, and then submit it to us. BUT, just for shits and giggles, lets look at another possibility. Maybe, just maybe, some OTHER website that's less scrupulous than us ganked your content and removed the watermark. Then perhaps one of their fans saw the content and downloaded it and submitted it. This doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. ESPECIALLY when you take into account that I already had a relationship with you, I had already posted your vids on our site AT YOUR REQUEST and turned them into Video Sponsorships that sent you THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of visitors for FREE!

I see now that you did at least manage to dig out my email address although I can't say I'm thrilled by the tone of your message:


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Marc Womack
Subject: Re-Edited our Vid to remove watermark...

Below is the link of OUR VIDEO on your fucking site:

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/c...1&page=1&fav=0

You guys posted our vid, fucking cut out our watermark and re-edited it!!!

You better fucking put up the watermarked version asap, or you'll be hearing from our lawyers.

We don't produce videos to bring traffic to your fucking site without any credit.

Nadia
ParasiteTV Productions
www.parasite.tv
ICQ: 217576223


As others have mentioned in this thread, our removal policy is simple: ask and we do. You could email and say that picture of the fat black midget with only one leg is you and you want us to take it down and we would. It's VERY easy. That's why the video has now been removed and I can assure you that we'll never post anything of yours again. And I mean never. If you hit the lottery and can suddenly afford our ad prices and offer me $100,000 for one Video Sponsorship it's not going to happen. I've repeated several times that we do business differently. I give people the benefit of the doubt and try to help them out whenever I can. BUT, when that kindness is repaid with behavior like yours I will never do any business with them again for any amount of money.

Nadia, on a personal note, we've spoken quite a few times on ICQ and on the phone. I actually considered you a friend. As always, I'm trying my best to remain professional on such a public forum but after such a betrayal, I can't hold back from saying FUCK YOU. Do not EVER contact me or any of my team again. I hope to fuck you don't treat other companies that have tried to HELP you like this. If so, your future in this business is going to be very challenging. We don't forget.
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Old 01-02-2005, 07:10 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by ConsumptionJunction
Nadia,

First, I apologize for responding to you on a public forum. You see, I think the right way to handle something like this with someone that you've had a relationship with for YEARS, with someone who has sent YOU tons of traffic for FREE, would be to handle it one on one. What's my ICQ? Perhaps you should check your ICQ logs. My ICQ logs have conversations between the two of us going back to early 2003.

Or perhaps you should look at my responses to all the emails we've bounced back and forth. ALL my contact information is in my sig. If the shoes were reversed I would have called you on the phone instead of freaking out on a board. I guess we just do business differently.

For me, I would have a little more RESPECT toward a company that had run several THOUSANDS of dollars worth of free Video Sponsorships for me! But again, I guess we just do business differently.

I personally wouldn't treat anyone who had gone out of their way to help me like you have. If I approached someone asking about buying traffic, then found out I couldn't afford it, and then that someone GAVE me traffic because they liked my site/content I DAMN sure wouldn't behave this way because I don't like to burn my bridges, ESPECIALLY with someone who has tried so hard to help me. I guess we just do business differently.

Now, to the issue at hand. Your own popularity is to blame. Tough problem to have. The video WAS submitted to us without your watermark. There is simply no way for us to tell where all the content that gets submitted to us comes from. I agree that it's unlikely any of our fans would download your clip, remove the watermark, and then submit it to us. BUT, just for shits and giggles, lets look at another possibility. Maybe, just maybe, some OTHER website that's less scrupulous than us ganked your content and removed the watermark. Then perhaps one of their fans saw the content and downloaded it and submitted it. This doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. ESPECIALLY when you take into account that I already had a relationship with you, I had already posted your vids on our site AT YOUR REQUEST and turned them into Video Sponsorships that sent you THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of visitors for FREE!

I see now that you did at least manage to dig out my email address although I can't say I'm thrilled by the tone of your message:


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Marc Womack
Subject: Re-Edited our Vid to remove watermark...

Below is the link of OUR VIDEO on your fucking site:

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/c...1&page=1&fav=0

You guys posted our vid, fucking cut out our watermark and re-edited it!!!

You better fucking put up the watermarked version asap, or you'll be hearing from our lawyers.

We don't produce videos to bring traffic to your fucking site without any credit.

Nadia
ParasiteTV Productions
www.parasite.tv
ICQ: 217576223


As others have mentioned in this thread, our removal policy is simple: ask and we do. You could email and say that picture of the fat black midget with only one leg is you and you want us to take it down and we would. It's VERY easy. That's why the video has now been removed and I can assure you that we'll never post anything of yours again. And I mean never. If you hit the lottery and can suddenly afford our ad prices and offer me $100,000 for one Video Sponsorship it's not going to happen. I've repeated several times that we do business differently. I give people the benefit of the doubt and try to help them out whenever I can. BUT, when that kindness is repaid with behavior like yours I will never do any business with them again for any amount of money.

Nadia, on a personal note, we've spoken quite a few times on ICQ and on the phone. I actually considered you a friend. As always, I'm trying my best to remain professional on such a public forum but after such a betrayal, I can't hold back from saying FUCK YOU. Do not EVER contact me or any of my team again. I hope to fuck you don't treat other companies that have tried to HELP you like this. If so, your future in this business is going to be very challenging. We don't forget.
for some reason i believe you...
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Old 01-02-2005, 07:14 PM   #50
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WOW. I'd hate to burn that bridge.
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