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0000000000000000000001000 · 01-02-2005, 12:25 PM

sadsasdasdasdsadsa

beemk · 01-02-2005, 12:41 PM

sell for 3 month revenue? show me some established sites with bookmarker traffic that will earn you 400% in the first year and i will buy them all.

Johny Traffic · 01-02-2005, 12:47 PM

He was told under very good authority that he was paid a $googolplex

Biggy2 · 01-02-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

1 billion dollars

what he said.

teomaxxx · 01-02-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shap

And just a quick note, Zilla makes a hell of a lot more than $500K every 3 years

Zilla set the site up as a money machine

reading your words, i consider he was doing something around 1mil per every 3 years? :-)
Thats 330k a year, 27k a month.
Nice income.

blazi · 01-02-2005, 01:31 PM

if I had to guess I'd say over half a million for sure!

NickB. · 01-02-2005, 01:56 PM

some of you guys obviously have no idea, Congrats shap!

Dax · 01-02-2005, 02:14 PM

Hey Perfection girls.. it is sHap not slap.

TheMob · 01-02-2005, 02:23 PM

he gave it to them for free in christmas spirit.

Series · 01-02-2005, 02:35 PM

I don't pretend to have a clue about valuating such a site... but my guess is an even Mil. He certainly didn't have to sell, so a premium would have to be paid for such an established cash cow which was referred to as "his baby".

Funky Bastard · 01-02-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJ

Some people don't understand tgp's I can see. I would think at least a million if not much more.

JJJ
pornno.com

How much for you site?

JJJ · 01-02-2005, 02:53 PM

If I could get a million for it I would probably sell.

JJJ
pornno.com

bigdog · 01-02-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx

reading your words, i consider he was doing something around 1mil per every 3 years? :-)
Thats 330k a year, 27k a month.
Nice income.

hopefully it's more then that

hyper · 01-02-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by samsam

Errrr I dont give a fuck what your sites worth - sell it and buy a fucking cheeseburger.

that quote is funny as hell. I'm still laughing

NoCarrier · 01-02-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by samsam

So come on whats the deal.

GIVE US THE JUICE TO WHET OUR APPETITES!

The previous owner has the privilege to have a partner account and can post 2 or 3 galleries a day. That was the deal and he agreed.

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 03:14 PM

I would say 200-300k... max.

Come on, you can build for 10 millions uniques/day of TGP/MGP traffic for that price, I would not pay only for a name.

The reason why they bought it is because Zilla converts babe/big tits pic traffic well.

Zilla is not Worldsex. For $1000 you had top spots for the whole month. Text TGPs might convert better, but I give them maximum 2 more years to live.

Drake · 01-02-2005, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJ

If I could get a million for it I would probably sell.

JJJ
pornno.com

JJJ, as somebody who has been in the game for so long, how do you assess the value of a TGP like your own or Thumbzilla?

There are many in here saying others "don't have a clue" because of the prices they think Thumbzilla sold for. How did you come up with a million for your site? If it's purely based on traffic, would Thumbzilla then have reasonably sold for $1.5 - $2 million in your opinion? Are the values like $200-$500k low in your opinion? If so, why?

There was a time when JJJ's was doing over 700k daily. Would the asking price have more at that time?

cosis · 01-02-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

Text TGPs might convert better, but I give them maximum 2 more years to live.

Heard that one 5 years ago

Theo · 01-02-2005, 03:27 PM

yeah,i dont see how an established site that uses text links will suddenly go away.

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cosis

Heard that one 5 years ago

Thumb TGP/MGP did not exists 5 years ago, try again.

cosis · 01-02-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

Thumb TGP/MGP did not exists 5 years ago, try again.

what's your point? Text TGP's seem to get bigger and bigger

And since when did Text TGP's not include movies?

QuaWee · 01-02-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

Thumb TGP/MGP did not exists 5 years ago, try again.

really, are you sure about that?

JJJ · 01-02-2005, 03:41 PM

mike33, I think the value of a site is based on the monthly earnings. Based on yearly gross times 3, a million is too low for my site, but that is what would make it worth it for me to give it up. Also more traffic doesnt always equal out to more money. Zilla's site was designed to make money, and that is the way I run my site, to make money. Alot of sites are too clean, and dont have enough ads so they make lesser amounts.

JJJ

slapass · 01-02-2005, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx

reading your words, i consider he was doing something around 1mil per every 3 years? :-)
Thats 330k a year, 27k a month.
Nice income.

So over a year each surfer is worth about a buck? He has to be closer to 50k a month in income I would think.

GTS will post the numbers or new income so we get to see in a few days.

Drake · 01-02-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJ

mike33, I think the value of a site is based on the monthly earnings. Based on yearly gross times 3, a million is too low for my site, but that is what would make it worth it for me to give it up. Also more traffic doesnt always equal out to more money. Zilla's site was designed to make money, and that is the way I run my site, to make money. Alot of sites are too clean, and dont have enough ads so they make lesser amounts.

JJJ

Thanks for your candid reply

slapass · 01-02-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJ

If I could get a million for it I would probably sell.

JJJ
pornno.com

Thumbzilla is 80% larger then you.

the Shemp · 01-02-2005, 03:53 PM

as JJ mentioned, dont ever equate traffic with income....
if you double your traffic with blind link trades, you certainly wont double your income...

Shap · 01-02-2005, 04:14 PM

Shemp and JJJ know what they are talking about. We have bigbreastlovers. It was set up to make money and I can just about guarantee it makes more than the majority of the Sextracker top 100. Not only does it make more money it has a following that is loyal beyond belief. BigBreastLovers only gets 100k uniques a day but it is easily worth $600,000 to $1,000,000.

One of the problems is that most tgp owners concentrate only on traffic. Usually traffic from link trades. By doing that you have a site that depends on your link trades. The key is to build up bookmarks and not be afraid to advertise on the site. If a site is so dependant on link trades that it can't advertise then it really isn't worth much and is looking for trouble in the future. I could go on all day about the topic

Manowar · 01-02-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJ

JJJ
pornno.com

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

really, are you sure about that?

Yeah because I'm the TGP industry since 2000 and never seen any solid network of thumb TGPs before the madscript.

cosis · 01-02-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

Yeah because I'm the TGP industry since 2000 and never seen any solid network of thumb TGPs before the madscript.

Your experience certainly doesn't show

JayJay · 01-02-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

Yeah because I'm the TGP industry since 2000 and never seen any solid network of thumb TGPs before the madscript.

I know a GFY member that would argue with you on that point

NoCarrier · 01-02-2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shap

Shemp and JJJ know what they are talking about. We have bigbreastlovers. It was set up to make money and I can just about guarantee it makes more than the majority of the Sextracker top 100. Not only does it make more money it has a following that is loyal beyond belief. BigBreastLovers only gets 100k uniques a day but it is easily worth $600,000 to $1,000,000.

One of the problems is that most tgp owners concentrate only on traffic. Usually traffic from link trades. By doing that you have a site that depends on your link trades. The key is to build up bookmarks and not be afraid to advertise on the site. If a site is so dependant on link trades that it can't advertise then it really isn't worth much and is looking for trouble in the future. I could go on all day about the topic

Well, isn't what the advertisers are looking for anyway? I wouldn't buy spots on a TGP that doesn't convert. Quality traffic has always been the key, not the amount of traffic.

Now, how do you evaluate the quality of traffic? It takes some research, the traffic isn't the same with every niche available. You have to know which one.

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 04:29 PM

Though I'm sure Shap will get his money back pretty quick. I did advertise 2 years ago on picwarehouse/sexape until he asked me to stop promoting some sponsors and closed the TOP thumb spots. (before twistyscash)

Now I look, and he closed all advertisers spots... it seems most links are hosted galleries or twistys. The advertising link is still up though.

His traffic quality is very good.

Theo · 01-02-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJay

I know a GFY member that would argue with you on that point

is he tall and sexy?

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJay

I know a GFY member that would argue with you on that point

I wonder if surfers had an idea of the thumb TGPs. If it was the case, Madthumbs would not have 1.5 millions of hits daily overnight within a few months. Surfers see what's common, stuff that is part of a big network.

I was one of the first to advertise on the Hun, Worldsex at the time the 1st spot was available within a week. I invested $1000's in paid listings when people had no idea it existed... so if there was a network of thumb TGP with good traffic, I would have seen it long ago.

Yeah Hosted galleries exist since 2-3 years, but it turned popular only a few months ago.

Otherwise give me one single network of Thumb TGPs that existed in 2000 and I will epassporte you $50 right away.

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cosis

Your experience certainly doesn't show

Prove me wrong and I will apologize and send the money. Just back your words with some facts.

TGPs are not CJs btw.

DarkJedi · 01-02-2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Thumbzilla is 80% larger then you.

It's than.

And you're very wrong.

Theo · 01-02-2005, 04:48 PM

sleazydream is an old thumb tgp

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

sleazydream is an old thumb tgp

Yeah it's a half text/thumb kind-of TGP. Sleazy is the story man and built his traffic with an original concept and product for surfers. But this is not really what I'm talking about.

Show me a network of thumb sites from back in 2000 such as madthumbs, teeniefiles, teeniesxxx, etc. Otherwise I can say you the TGPs existed as soon as the freesites like the green guy and persiankitty appeared on the net since it's basically the same thing. But it's not.

Most of Sleazydream's traffic is bookmark and he trades hardcore links with old and solid text TGPs. He's not what I call a "new generation" of network TGP that might eliminate the current text TGP model in the next 2-3 years.

5 years ago there was not a single solid network of thumb TGPs.

Let make this more clear: In 2-3 years, the Thumb TGP model will become the major thing in the free porn industry, eliminating any chance for a Text TGP to succeed except if it's an old sites like persiankitty, link-o-rama, etc.

But my point is I would prefer owning Madthumbs.com (that is pretty new) over Link-o-rama.com (that is pretty old) with all the new surfers that will start using Internet and broadband connections. I can say the same thing with MGPs over TGPs.

2Pac · 01-02-2005, 05:29 PM

It sold for $ 560 K ............................ wanna bet ?

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 05:36 PM

Oh and with all the respect I have for Sleazy, I would love to see him start from absolutely zero in this industry.

This is good also for other TGP "dinosaurs" such as JJJ, Snakesworld, Pinkworld, Adult-Buffet, etc.

Sometime I think most of their success is based on timing... because otherwise I'm not sure they would succeed as much in this industry starting from scratch with zero dollars and no business contacts.

That's why I believe a guy such as xAsper deserve more respect than others. He knows how to innovate, design, trade, sell, etc... he's just smart.

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 05:41 PM

Cameron also

MetaMan · 01-02-2005, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

Oh and with all the respect I have for Sleazy, I would love to see him start from absolutely zero in this industry.

This is good also for other TGP "dinosaurs" such as JJJ, Snakesworld, Pinkworld, Adult-Buffet, etc.

Sometime I think most of their success is based on timing... because otherwise I'm not sure they would succeed as much in this industry starting from scratch with zero dollars and no business contacts.

That's why I believe a guy such as xAsper deserve more respect than others. He knows how to innovate, design, trade, sell, etc... he's just smart.

Sleazydream can barely tie his shoes without having a heart attack, how is he gonna survive by starting over?

the Shemp · 01-02-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

This is good also for other TGP "dinosaurs" such as JJJ, Snakesworld, Pinkworld, Adult-Buffet, etc.

Sometime I think most of their success is based on timing... because otherwise I'm not sure they would succeed as much in this industry starting from scratch with zero dollars and no business contacts.

im sure those guys cant afford the Comus thumbs script, otherwise they would have switched a while ago....

the indigo · 01-02-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

im sure those guys cant afford the Comus thumbs script, otherwise they would have switched a while ago....

Oh I'm sure anyone can buy the Comus Thumb script, and probably most of them already have a few Thumb TGPs.

Call-Kelly did switch from a successfull Text TGP to Thumb TGP... but I know his traffic quality dropped. (Don't know for now since It's been a long time I advertised there)

My point is not that a guy running a Thumb TGP is smarter, because anyone can buy Comus + hire an trading expert and have a Thumb TGP overnight.

But programming a script like MadTGP (that was the first solid thumb script way before Comus), and building a site to 2 millions hits per day in one year or so is very nice.

I'm pretty sure he's currently making a lot more money than Shemp.com - Except if you do more than 35-40k per month.

jimmyf · 01-02-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJ

Some people don't understand tgp's I can see. I would think at least a million if not much more.

JJJ
pornno.com

hey what's up ? when I was submitting galleries years ago, use 2 get some good traffic from you.. never got a chance 2 say thanks.... so a belated thank you

the Shemp · 01-02-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

Oh I'm sure anyone can buy the Comus Thumb script, and probably most of them already have a few Thumb TGPs.

Call-Kelly did switch from a successfull Text TGP to Thumb TGP... but I know his traffic quality dropped. (Don't know for now since It's been a long time I advertised there)

My point is not that a guy running a Thumb TGP is smarter, because anyone can buy Comus + hire an trading expert and have a Thumb TGP overnight.

But programming a script like MadTGP (that was the first solid thumb script way before Comus), and building a site to 2 millions hits per day in one year or so is very nice.

I'm pretty sure he's currently making a lot more money than Shemp.com - Except if you do more than 35-40k per month.

ya, but i dress better....

andrej_NDC · 01-02-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by the indigo

I'm pretty sure he's currently making a lot more money than Shemp.com - Except if you do more than 35-40k per month.

madthumbs make for sure more, he sells 36 gallery spots each month:
36 x 1500 = $52 500
I think he rotates 12 banners(I could be wrong) at the top, thats 12 x $2000 = $24 000

= $76 500(in the case, he is sold out) + paysite links and banners with his ref codes he dont sell as I dont see them in GTS

DarkJedi · 01-02-2005, 06:16 PM

LOL, Nina is so cute up there.

Whatever happened to her ?

01-02-2005, 12:41 PM	#52
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01-02-2005, 01:31 PM	#56
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01-02-2005, 03:14 PM	#66
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	I would say 200-300k... max. Come on, you can build for 10 millions uniques/day of TGP/MGP traffic for that price, I would not pay only for a name. The reason why they bought it is because Zilla converts babe/big tits pic traffic well. Zilla is not Worldsex. For $1000 you had top spots for the whole month. Text TGPs might convert better, but I give them maximum 2 more years to live. __________________ "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. Thompson Last edited by the indigo; 01-02-2005 at 03:15 PM..

01-02-2005, 03:53 PM	#77
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	as JJ mentioned, dont ever equate traffic with income.... if you double your traffic with blind link trades, you certainly wont double your income... __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

01-02-2005, 12:25 PM	#51
0000000000000000000001000 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 243	sadsasdasdasdsadsa

01-02-2005, 01:56 PM	#57
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	some of you guys obviously have no idea, Congrats shap!

01-02-2005, 02:14 PM	#58
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	Hey Perfection girls.. it is sHap not slap.

01-02-2005, 02:23 PM	#59
TheMob Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 2006 Posts: 8,584	he gave it to them for free in christmas spirit.

01-02-2005, 02:35 PM	#60
Series Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 946	I don't pretend to have a clue about valuating such a site... but my guess is an even Mil. He certainly didn't have to sell, so a premium would have to be paid for such an established cash cow which was referred to as "his baby".

01-02-2005, 02:53 PM	#62
JJJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 97	If I could get a million for it I would probably sell. JJJ pornno.com

01-02-2005, 03:27 PM	#69
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	yeah,i dont see how an established site that uses text links will suddenly go away.

01-02-2005, 03:41 PM	#73
JJJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 97	mike33, I think the value of a site is based on the monthly earnings. Based on yearly gross times 3, a million is too low for my site, but that is what would make it worth it for me to give it up. Also more traffic doesnt always equal out to more money. Zilla's site was designed to make money, and that is the way I run my site, to make money. Alot of sites are too clean, and dont have enough ads so they make lesser amounts. JJJ

01-02-2005, 04:14 PM	#78
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Shemp and JJJ know what they are talking about. We have bigbreastlovers. It was set up to make money and I can just about guarantee it makes more than the majority of the Sextracker top 100. Not only does it make more money it has a following that is loyal beyond belief. BigBreastLovers only gets 100k uniques a day but it is easily worth $600,000 to $1,000,000. One of the problems is that most tgp owners concentrate only on traffic. Usually traffic from link trades. By doing that you have a site that depends on your link trades. The key is to build up bookmarks and not be afraid to advertise on the site. If a site is so dependant on link trades that it can't advertise then it really isn't worth much and is looking for trouble in the future. I could go on all day about the topic

01-02-2005, 04:29 PM	#84
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	Though I'm sure Shap will get his money back pretty quick. I did advertise 2 years ago on picwarehouse/sexape until he asked me to stop promoting some sponsors and closed the TOP thumb spots. (before twistyscash) Now I look, and he closed all advertisers spots... it seems most links are hosted galleries or twistys. The advertising link is still up though. His traffic quality is very good. __________________ "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. Thompson Last edited by the indigo; 01-02-2005 at 04:32 PM..

01-02-2005, 04:48 PM	#89
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	sleazydream is an old thumb tgp

01-02-2005, 05:29 PM	#91
2Pac Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 110	It sold for $ 560 K ............................ wanna bet ?

01-02-2005, 05:36 PM	#92
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	Oh and with all the respect I have for Sleazy, I would love to see him start from absolutely zero in this industry. This is good also for other TGP "dinosaurs" such as JJJ, Snakesworld, Pinkworld, Adult-Buffet, etc. Sometime I think most of their success is based on timing... because otherwise I'm not sure they would succeed as much in this industry starting from scratch with zero dollars and no business contacts. That's why I believe a guy such as xAsper deserve more respect than others. He knows how to innovate, design, trade, sell, etc... he's just smart. __________________ "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. Thompson

01-02-2005, 05:41 PM	#93
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	Cameron also __________________ "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -Hunter S. Thompson

01-02-2005, 06:16 PM	#100
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	LOL, Nina is so cute up there. Whatever happened to her ?