1% chargeback rule. Remember when everybody was CRYING about it? - GoFuckYourself.com

BVF · 12-31-2004, 08:03 AM

It's the end of the year. How many of you were able to stay under the 1% chargeback rule? It wasn't so bad like everybody said it was going to be. I was at 0.8% this year and I think a lot of those chargebacks had to do with Pennywize fucking their accounts up. Otherwise I would have been lower.

How about you?

ADL Colin · 12-31-2004, 08:05 AM

The end of the world never comes.

Ashcroft didn't get us either. Now he's gone too.

Theo · 12-31-2004, 08:06 AM

If you take care of the customer support and avoid affiliate fraud you dont have to worry about anything.

polish_aristocrat · 12-31-2004, 08:07 AM

Great thread, but it's New Years Eve, everyone's gonna party today and not discuss business.

bigdog · 12-31-2004, 08:16 AM

i wonder what kind of chargebackrate sites with deceptive tours get

GatorB · 12-31-2004, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin

The end of the world never comes.

Ashcroft didn't get us either.

Thank Ossama for that.

Theo · 12-31-2004, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

i wonder what kind of chargebackrate sites with deceptive tours get

honestly? not big difference. Cross sales, fraud and bad CS are the things you gotta avoid.

bigdog · 12-31-2004, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

honestly? not big difference. Cross sales, fraud and bad CS are the things you gotta avoid.

but also with deceptive tours, one must get a lot of emails from surfers asking about some content that was on the tour but not in the members area

Varius · 12-31-2004, 08:42 AM

We averaged 0.52% for the year

DutchTeenCash · 12-31-2004, 08:46 AM

0.6, the whole year was cool then december came urgh

Lykos · 12-31-2004, 10:21 AM

How u make sale at all in this bizz? 1orglaugh
just joking,yeap it was nice rule

Steve_NCH · 12-31-2004, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

but also with deceptive tours, one must get a lot of emails from surfers asking about some content that was on the tour but not in the members area

When i was just a porn surfer that really pissed me off, seeing a really hot chick on the tour and then finding she wasn't in the site. Never charged back, but I bet a lot of people did. And lots of sites still do this, even the big ones.

angelsofporn · 12-31-2004, 10:32 AM

our rate was .27 for the year

brand0n · 12-31-2004, 10:34 AM

.9 for the year. got kinda close for a min.

modF · 12-31-2004, 10:37 AM

I didn't have a chargeback for a little over 3 month, and wouldn't you know it, I logged in today and there was one of those mother fuckers staring me in the face. Yeah, I'm a bit bitter about it. What I love even more is the jackass logged in at least once a day and spent about 20 minutes per day on the site. Arrhh.. I hate surfers some days.

Other than that, my cb rate was low as hell for the year .3%.

BVF · 12-31-2004, 02:11 PM

My goal is to be at at least .5 this coming year. I think I can do it if I step it up on my customer service. I'm VERY excited about the coming year.

Screaming · 12-31-2004, 02:15 PM

everything horrible when it first happens and then the shock wears off and back to the as close to normal as life can be

beemk · 12-31-2004, 02:31 PM

my chargeback rate for ccbill sites i promote was at about 0.1% or 0.2%

Alex · 12-31-2004, 02:33 PM

The sites with deceptive tours usually get a lot of joins. And its okay if one or two out of tens of thousand chargeback and so the rate is still less that 1%

newbreed · 12-31-2004, 02:44 PM

We had 4 chargebacks for the year with Arika's site. Both claimed fradulent transactions, yet they spoke to Arika through e-mail and on Yahoo Chat.

It was actually only 2 people, but one charged back THREE times.

Fucking lying bastards.

MikeSmoke · 12-31-2004, 03:40 PM

0.05%....and every one of them still pisses me off... ;-/

Tuga · 12-31-2004, 03:43 PM

I remember when they closed my Verotel account because one guy charged back. 17 times.

Bansheelinks · 12-31-2004, 03:49 PM

I hate when ppl. do that..........grrrrrrrrrrrrr

pornguy · 12-31-2004, 03:50 PM

we are under 0.5%, I guess it is kickass.
Never been over the 1%, even with about 40 signups in a day (our highest a couple of months ago).

FTVGirls · 12-31-2004, 04:03 PM

fluctuates between 0.24 to 0.26% for FTV....

but my concern is, that maybe they will bring the CB ratio cap down to 0.5, 0.25, in the next few years -- who knows?

collegeboyslive · 12-31-2004, 04:20 PM

humm i wonder how the ibill fuckups of 2004 has affected my chargebacks?

Nysus · 12-31-2004, 04:22 PM

It was the end of the world for companies who based their business model by abusing surfers by having extremely high pre-checked cross-sales of $100+

Matt

james_clickmemedia · 12-31-2004, 04:59 PM

The rule only applies to Visa chargebacks plus it goes into effect if you get more than 100 cb's in a month.. So many smaller paysites are not effected.
If I am incorrect please advise.

andrej_NDC · 12-31-2004, 06:20 PM

0.075%, but I started only in september

Rictor · 12-31-2004, 06:28 PM

0.5% on the dot.

NETbilling · 12-31-2004, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Cross sales, fraud and bad CS are the things you gotta avoid.

You are absolutely right!

Mitch

NETbilling · 12-31-2004, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james_clickmemedia

The rule only applies to Visa chargebacks plus it goes into effect if you get more than 100 cb's in a month.. So many smaller paysites are not effected.
If I am incorrect please advise.

This is true to officially be in the monitoring porogram. However, the bank can still tell your processor to turn you off if you are consistently above 1%.

Mitch

Kimmykim · 12-31-2004, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FTVGirls

fluctuates between 0.24 to 0.26% for FTV....

but my concern is, that maybe they will bring the CB ratio cap down to 0.5, 0.25, in the next few years -- who knows?

Maybe first quarter 05 for at least one region will drop.

Drake · 12-31-2004, 07:13 PM

It only affected companies that had over 100 cb's in a month, so it only tended to affect large programs, not the small or medium ones.

The crying might have stopped but that's because programs/sites made the necessary changes to keep them out of cb troubles. What did we see in the past year? Programs lowering payouts, previous giants like Freenetpass virtually fall off the map, fewer PPS programs launching, and a general improvement in the quality of members areas (more content, more quality too) which is a trend that appears to be continuing. So while it might not seem like anything changed, a whole lot actually did.

12-31-2004, 08:03 AM	#1
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12-31-2004, 08:06 AM	#3
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	If you take care of the customer support and avoid affiliate fraud you dont have to worry about anything.

12-31-2004, 08:16 AM	#5
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	i wonder what kind of chargebackrate sites with deceptive tours get

12-31-2004, 10:21 AM	#11
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	How u make sale at all in this bizz? 1orglaugh just joking,yeap it was nice rule __________________

12-31-2004, 10:32 AM	#13
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	our rate was .27 for the year

12-31-2004, 10:34 AM	#14
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	.9 for the year. got kinda close for a min. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

12-31-2004, 10:37 AM	#15
modF Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,888	I didn't have a chargeback for a little over 3 month, and wouldn't you know it, I logged in today and there was one of those mother fuckers staring me in the face. Yeah, I'm a bit bitter about it. What I love even more is the jackass logged in at least once a day and spent about 20 minutes per day on the site. Arrhh.. I hate surfers some days. Other than that, my cb rate was low as hell for the year .3%. __________________ I do things skype:themodF

12-31-2004, 02:11 PM	#16
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	My goal is to be at at least .5 this coming year. I think I can do it if I step it up on my customer service. I'm VERY excited about the coming year. __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

12-31-2004, 02:15 PM	#17
Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	everything horrible when it first happens and then the shock wears off and back to the as close to normal as life can be __________________

12-31-2004, 02:31 PM	#18
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	my chargeback rate for ccbill sites i promote was at about 0.1% or 0.2% __________________ I host with Vacares

12-31-2004, 02:33 PM	#19
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	The sites with deceptive tours usually get a lot of joins. And its okay if one or two out of tens of thousand chargeback and so the rate is still less that 1% __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

12-31-2004, 02:44 PM	#20
newbreed Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ThatOneProgram.com Posts: 9,898	We had 4 chargebacks for the year with Arika's site. Both claimed fradulent transactions, yet they spoke to Arika through e-mail and on Yahoo Chat. It was actually only 2 people, but one charged back THREE times. Fucking lying bastards. __________________ Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! \| Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! Yeah, yeah, you know, That One Program! \| Want to trade links with StompBunny.com? Loryn ‎(3:16 PM): I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

12-31-2004, 03:40 PM	#21
MikeSmoke Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,233	0.05%....and every one of them still pisses me off... ;-/ __________________ icq: 541-739-92

12-31-2004, 03:43 PM	#22
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	I remember when they closed my Verotel account because one guy charged back. 17 times. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

12-31-2004, 03:49 PM	#23
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	I hate when ppl. do that..........grrrrrrrrrrrrr

12-31-2004, 03:50 PM	#24
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	we are under 0.5%, I guess it is kickass. Never been over the 1%, even with about 40 signups in a day (our highest a couple of months ago). __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

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FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	fluctuates between 0.24 to 0.26% for FTV.... but my concern is, that maybe they will bring the CB ratio cap down to 0.5, 0.25, in the next few years -- who knows?

12-31-2004, 04:20 PM	#26
collegeboyslive Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: orlando Posts: 189	humm i wonder how the ibill fuckups of 2004 has affected my chargebacks? __________________ Video feeds and content available to webmasters: Photo sets now available http://photos.collegeboyslive.com Affiliate site here: http://affiliates.collegeboyslive.com

12-31-2004, 04:22 PM	#27
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	It was the end of the world for companies who based their business model by abusing surfers by having extremely high pre-checked cross-sales of $100+ Matt __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html

12-31-2004, 04:59 PM	#28
james_clickmemedia Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas / London Posts: 2,204	The rule only applies to Visa chargebacks plus it goes into effect if you get more than 100 cb's in a month.. So many smaller paysites are not effected. If I am incorrect please advise. __________________ $ CLICKMEMEDIA.COM $ CONVERTING ETHNIC TRAFFIC SINCE 1998 ~ $30+PPS BLACK-X.COM - NEW BLACK EX-GF SITE CLICKMEMEDIA.COM ~ ICQ - 8788771

12-31-2004, 06:20 PM	#29
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	0.075%, but I started only in september

12-31-2004, 06:28 PM	#30
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	0.5% on the dot.

12-31-2004, 07:13 PM	#34
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	It only affected companies that had over 100 cb's in a month, so it only tended to affect large programs, not the small or medium ones. The crying might have stopped but that's because programs/sites made the necessary changes to keep them out of cb troubles. What did we see in the past year? Programs lowering payouts, previous giants like Freenetpass virtually fall off the map, fewer PPS programs launching, and a general improvement in the quality of members areas (more content, more quality too) which is a trend that appears to be continuing. So while it might not seem like anything changed, a whole lot actually did.