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directfiesta 12-29-2004 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by theking
The figures show that the USA spends more in total dollars in international aid than other nations combined.

How about a link to that information. Source .... Not because you repeat it over and over again that it begins to be the thruth.

I posted a link to what Bush said TODAY!!!: 40 % !!!!

Do the same or STFU.

Webby 12-29-2004 03:05 PM

Chichio:

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Webby, in response to your comment about Americans being defensive. I agree with you. Americans come off as defensive sometimes. I believe it?s in reaction to a perceived inability to do enough for the world. Sometimes it feels we?re damned either way. It doesn?t matter what we do we will always be looked at as the bad guys.
Seriously Chichio... I sure don't feel like that about the US or anywhere. Some shit ya may not agree with (same as any country), but I am well-aware of plenty good stuff done by the US or people/orgs there.

I can't say if I am "common" in thinking this, but it does appear there is an enormous sensitivity to anything "nationalistic" - It may just be some kinda different culture or something, but never actually saw this in any US people I've met or work with, - only on GFY :-)

Again... tis only me, but I don't expect any one country to do loads of shit for the world. If anything, I think the days of "countries" have gone - it's people who make a change/difference and it does not matter where they come from.

All this crap about countries giving more to Asia at the moment - it's not real cos nobody knows the extent of the damage. Whenever that is known (and I'm sure it's going to take some time yet!), loads of countries will be helping, - including the US. This may turn out to be the largest disaster in our lifetimes and I can't see anyone turning away. To make this some political point, as in threads, it's just beneath contempt - folks are still dying there and need help urgently.

theking 12-29-2004 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
How about a link to that information. Source .... Not because you repeat it over and over again that it begins to be the thruth.

I posted a link to what Bush said TODAY!!!: 40 % !!!!

Do the same or STFU.

I already rebutted your statement in a previous post dipshit.

Your quote just covers one area of aid provided by the USA and that provided by the government...which does not include private aid.


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The United States uses the most common measure of the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a group of 30 rich nations that counts development aid.

By that measure, the United States spent almost $15.8 billion for "official development assistance" to developing countries in 2003. Next closest was Japan, at $8.9 billion.

That doesn't include billions more the United States spends in other areas such as AIDS and HIV programs and other U.N. assistance.

Same fucking link dipshit. In addition...

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"We outmatch the contributions of other nations combined; we'll continue to do so," Bush spokesman Trent Duffy told reporters in Crawford, Texas, where the president is spending a post-Christmas vacation at his ranch.

Phoenix 12-29-2004 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee
so? They need money also. Just cause they made water does not mean they should be stingy finanacially

I guess you mised the other vaild comments made in here by some informed sources


quote me again when you have read the entire thread

Webby 12-29-2004 03:16 PM

theKing:

Man... have you anything to actually say apart from trying to boast some figures in defense of *something*???

Here are the OECD figures.... sure, they are one year out of date, 2003, but show exactly what is paid by each member state...

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/52/9/1893143.xls

You want to know who the auditors are next?? :-)

theking 12-29-2004 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
theKing:

Man... have you anything to actually say apart from trying to boast some figures in defense of *something*???

Here are the OECD figures.... sure, they are one year out of date, 2003, but show exactly what is paid by each member state...

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/52/9/1893143.xls

You want to know who the auditors are next?? :-)

And your point is?

directfiesta 12-29-2004 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theking
I already rebutted your statement in a previous post dipshit.

No you didn't... You think you did....

BTW, when you compare things or figures, you use a " common" comparaison tool. This is why the use of the " Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development", and according to that tool , it is 40 %

If you want to add other contributions to the US column, you must do the same for the other countries ... which you obviously don't.

Bush: 40 % ,
Trent Duffy : more than 50%

Who says the thruth ????

ADL_JD 12-29-2004 03:24 PM

I don't understand what is enough and not enough aid. Why does giving a country's money away have to be a competition between countries. If any money is given it should be thought of as "great." But, this country has only given this and that country has only given that - fucking stupid shit this world has come to.

directfiesta 12-29-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL_JD
I don't understand what is enough and not enough aid. Why does giving a country's money away have to be a competition between countries. If any money is given it should be thought of as "great." But, this country has only given this and that country has only given that - fucking stupid shit this world has come to.

You are right, It isn't a competition ...


But look at the title of this thread and wonder what was the point ... Then it becomes a " how great America is" and " how lousy others are" ....

All that from a bunch of ignorants ...

The same with the other thread stating that " USA gives more than ALL combined other countries "..... Who started that thread? An idiot drunk handicapped american living in a trailer park with his mother and fucking his niece.

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/j0/leseratte.gif

ADL_JD 12-29-2004 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
50 dumb ignorants haters !

You guys are so fucking stupid...

The USA has only sent 100,00.00 to each Indonesia, Thailand, and 2 other countries , for a TOTAL OF 400,.000.00 !!!!

The big 35 millions are a pledge, not gone yet, not paid yet....

In fact Japan ( understandably) is doing nore followed by Australia and Saudia Arabia...

Now go back to eat a freedom frie....

Unedicated and uninformed americans ... LOL .



BTW - right or wrong - do you think any country will come close to spending what the US will? OR are you just another US hater looking for a reason to bash America for giving money?

Webby 12-29-2004 03:30 PM

theKing:

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And your point is?
The figures are the point.

You, for the purposes of your ... hell knows what arguement, are using OECD published figures which illustrate a net giving of .15 GNI which equates with eg... Luxembourg at the top with .81 and Italy, the only country below the US with .17 GNI.

This is nothing else to say.

Do facts cause some problem??

directfiesta 12-29-2004 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL_JD
BTW - right or wrong - do you think any country will come close to spending what the US will? OR are you just another US hater looking for a reason to bash America for giving money?

Now you are playing the numbers ....

In this case, Australia and Japan will be giving near, same or more than the USA, for obvious reasons: that area is their backyard sorta ....

Now, where did I bash america ( I prefer USA, because America includes Mexico and Canada ...) for giving money??? Where did I even say that what the USA gives is not enough.????

I just don't rally under the " flag" to spit on other countries, like some here .... And I don't like false or twisted statment that are here.

Webby 12-29-2004 03:37 PM

Shit Na!!! :-)

Take that back!! Can't believe the US is at the bottom of that "giving" rate with .15 and even Italy is higher at .17!

In fact, based on GNI, the US is right at the bottom of all OCED member countries.

IKE 12-29-2004 03:39 PM

The US gives a much smaller % of GDP then most western countries as outright aid to rest of the world. IN terms of hard $ I do believe Japan gives way way more then any other country.

theking 12-29-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
Now you are playing the numbers ....

In this case, Australia and Japan will be giving near, same or more than the USA, for obvious reasons: that area is their backyard sorta ....

Now, where did I bash america ( I prefer USA, because America includes Mexico and Canada ...) for giving money??? Where did I even say that what the USA gives is not enough.????

I just don't rally under the " flag" to spit on other countries, like some here .... And I don't like false or twisted statment that are here.

Then you should stop twisting them. Fact...in total dollars...not percentage per capita...the USA government...combined with American based charitable .orgs...provide more money to the world in all combined areas of aid than the rest of the worlds nations combined. Now you and the other America basher (Webby) are dismissed. I have things to do...in preparation for my trip in the morning.

Webby 12-29-2004 03:46 PM

IKE:

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IN terms of hard $ I do believe Japan gives way way more then any other country.
Oddly... the Japanese govt actually offered me funds on an annual basis to retain some land area as it is and not screw it up with development.

They were actually paying for the land to be retained as primary forest (jungle territory) with the ability to generate oxygen.

I just told em we had no intention of screwing the place up and use their funds for other places it may be needed.

directfiesta 12-29-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theking
Then you should stop twisting them. Fact...in total dollars...not percentage per capita...the USA government...combined with American based charitable .orgs...provide more money to the world in all combined areas of aid than the rest of the worlds nations combined. Now you and the other America basher (Webby) are dismissed. I have things to do...in preparation for my trip in the morning.

Thanks for the link! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/g0/up.gif

Very instructive .... LOL

ADL_JD 12-29-2004 03:50 PM

You can't compare US foreign aid to its GDP - that is crazy. These are the same people that blamed Bill Gates for not giving enough of his money away when he was giving way 100's of millions. If a country is the largest donator of money give them some fucking credit.

Webby 12-29-2004 03:50 PM

theKing:

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Fact...in total dollars...not percentage per capita...
OK.. I'll be the "US hater" of the day if that suits your small mind :-)

Do you for some weird reason think that we should bend the figures to no longer be based on percentage per capita??

If so, why? Cos it suits your personal arguement?

SuckOnThis 12-29-2004 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Does this include the donations to Saddam's birthday fund?


Another stupid ass Texan opens his mouth and shit comes out.

Webby 12-29-2004 04:02 PM

ADL_JD:

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You can't compare US foreign aid to its GDP - that is crazy.
Why??

To come close to population, if you take, eg Europe as an equivalent US, why should Europe pay 37139Mill and the US only 16254Mill?

Even cutting Europe in half, the US still does not come close in contrubution terms, - nevermind any other continents.

Why should the US consume 25% of natural resouces while only 5% of the world's population live there?

I'm not trying some "contest" - it just seems illogical that claims are made for the US, yet the figures don't match, while you seem to have some dispute over US foreign aid and GDP.

directfiesta 12-29-2004 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL_JD
You can't compare US foreign aid to its GDP - that is crazy.

Read the title of the thread.

Isn't that a " comparaison " ... ???? based between " pledges" and " actual disbursement" ....

theking 12-29-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
theKing:



OK.. I'll be the "US hater" of the day if that suits your small mind :-)

Do you for some weird reason think that we should bend the figures to no longer be based on percentage per capita??

If so, why? Cos it suits your personal arguement?

Bend...don't bend...I do not give a fuck what you do. You are the same creep that...on multiple occasions called for the assassination of my country's President...and even offered to personally assassinate him. You are an avowed enemy of America...thus an avowed enemy of mine. I would very much enjoy turning your face into an oozing mass of goo. If you think that I will ever allow you to forget what you have stated...and your almost daily bashing of America (just as that piece of shit directfieasta does)...you are mistaken.

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"That's a European standard, this percentage that's used," Natsios said. "The United States, for 40 years, has never accepted these standards that it should be based on the gross national product. We base it on the actual dollars that we spent."

"The reason is that our gross national product is so enormous. And our growth rates are so much higher than the other wealthy nations."
The United States walks to the beat of a different drummer...which pleases me...thank you very much.

TheMob 12-29-2004 04:16 PM

this is turning in to a pissing contest

Ironhorse 12-29-2004 04:17 PM

Did everyone miss the first line?

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EUROPEAN UNION: Ready to release up to 30 million euros on top of 3 million euros already allocated to IFRC.
France is one of the biggest economies in the EU, this thread is pretty much like saying the state of Nebraska is cheap for only pledging $15k to the cause..

directfiesta 12-29-2004 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhorse
Did everyone miss the first line?



France is one of the biggest economies in the EU, this thread is pretty much like saying the state of Nebraska is cheap for only pledging $15k to the cause..


or:

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France announced $20.5 million in aid Wednesday and said it was sending 60 tons of aid to Sri Lanka, Indonesia and the Maldives.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...0523949.htm?1c
So France haters ....

Webby 12-29-2004 04:24 PM

theKing:

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The United States walks to the beat of a different drummer...
King... you are warped! :-)

Ya got more "hate" in ya than Saddam ever had - he was just mental from birth.

Ain't my fault the beat is fucked up in places and out of step/reality with the rest of the world. Tho, I doubt it is walking that much out of beat as you think in your mind.

Webby 12-29-2004 04:27 PM

directfiesta:

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So France haters ....
Yup... more "French haters"! :-)

They learn this behavior - just cos they need something to hate - French are as good as any! :-)

Basically they are just fucking sick! :-)

directfiesta 12-29-2004 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
directfiesta:


They learn this behavior - just cos they need something to hate - French are as good as any! :-)

Well, I understand them ( americans , for those who can't follow) .

After all, don't you normally hate the smart one in the class, the gifted at sport competition, the one that has girls drooling over him ...???

France didn't gobble down the " intelligence trash" fed by the CIA under the orders of a chimp ...

They said: we need proof !!!

Shows they were smart ....

directfiesta 12-29-2004 05:16 PM

Hummmm....

Such a silence ....

Were are the flag waving guys ????

Or the " Freedom " supporters ...

or the French haters ...

Pussies that just melted with the truth... LOL

MetaMan 12-29-2004 05:17 PM

how did i know this would turn into an american hating thread. :sleep

Viet Hung Low 12-29-2004 06:20 PM

you all suck

Webby 12-29-2004 06:28 PM

directfiesta:

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Hummmm....

Such a silence ....
Mmmm... yea... kinda quiet :-)

Tho King is probably lying drunk in a corner with his eyes trying to focus on a calculator and trying to mush some figures up to prove the OECD is a complete fraud and reality is something to be disbelieved :-)

God bless em!! :-)


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