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Webby 12-29-2004 02:01 PM

Still more bs about countries and how wonderful or crappy they are??? :-)

Sheesh... I'd hate to rely on this lot if I was starving. You'd be having damned committee meetings for a year and blowing each others heads off before ya managed to agree on nothing.

France, the US.. any country is just uttering shit now. Nobody knows enough to even talk money, hence any mention of it is meaningless.

FYI France and Israel were the two countries who had practical aid on the ground first - neither waited to talk shit about money, - they just started helping and will hopefully save more lives.

Webby 12-29-2004 02:06 PM

Johny Traffic:


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Foriegn aid last year

7. France $104.68 per person
20. United States $23.76 per person
Curious JT.. Who is on the top of the list right now? It used to be Denmark, but think they make have cut back a bit..

David! 12-29-2004 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Foriegn aid last year

7. France $104.68 per person


get a fucking clue please :frenchman

Does this include the donations to Saddam's birthday fund?

Phoenix 12-29-2004 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

FYI France and Israel were the two countries who had practical aid on the ground first - neither waited to talk shit about money, - they just started helping and will hopefully save more lives.

thank you very much Webby

that was what i meant in my first post

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:10 PM

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Curious JT.. Who is on the top of the list right now? It used to be Denmark, but think they make have cut back a bit..
1. Luxembourg $352.30 per person
2. Norway $307.95 per person
3. Denmark $302.72 per person

Denmark still giving 6 times what the UK gives and 13 times what the US gives

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:11 PM

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Does this include the donations to Saddam's birthday fund?
Yes but doesnt include funds to murder Iraqi children

David! 12-29-2004 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Yes but doesnt include funds to murder Iraqi children

What's the matter Johnny?
Since when do Brits take the defense of froggys?
Peut etre es tu un petit Francais toi meme?

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:13 PM

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Since when do Brits take the defense of froggys?
We dont. Unless its against the Americans :smokin

David! 12-29-2004 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
We dont. Unless its against the Americans :smokin

Why such hatred?

Webby 12-29-2004 02:15 PM

Johny Traffic:

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1. Luxembourg $352.30 per person
2. Norway $307.95 per person
3. Denmark $302.72 per person
Yea... thanks JT!

The Dutch govt has a project going next door to me which we will probably get involved in - hell knows how they find the money for all that stuff :-)

directfiesta 12-29-2004 02:16 PM

50 dumb ignorants haters !

You guys are so fucking stupid...

The USA has only sent 100,00.00 to each Indonesia, Thailand, and 2 other countries , for a TOTAL OF 400,.000.00 !!!!

The big 35 millions are a pledge, not gone yet, not paid yet....

In fact Japan ( understandably) is doing nore followed by Australia and Saudia Arabia...

Now go back to eat a freedom frie....

Unedicated and uninformed americans ... LOL .

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:16 PM

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Peut etre es tu un petit Francais toi meme?
Je suis desolee mais mon Francais est ne pas tres bon

Webby 12-29-2004 02:17 PM

Phoenix:

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thank you very much Webby

that was what i meant in my first post
Nada problem! :-)

Some reality causes a state of denial sometimes :-)

theking 12-29-2004 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Foriegn aid last year

7. France $104.68 per person
20. United States $23.76 per person

get a fucking clue please :frenchman

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Measured another way, as a percentage of gross national product, the OECD's figures on development aid show that as of April, none of the world's richest countries donated even 1 percent of its gross national product. Norway was highest, at 0.92 percent; the United States was last, at 0.14 percent.

Such figures were what prompted Jan Egeland -- the United Nations' emergency relief coordinator and former head of the Norwegian Red Cross -- to challenge the giving of rich nations.

"We were more generous when we were less rich, many of the rich countries," Egeland said. "And it is beyond me, why are we so stingy, really.... Even Christmas time should remind many Western countries at least how rich we have become."

Egeland told reporters Tuesday his complaint wasn't directed at any nation in particular.

But Secretary of State Colin Powell clearly took umbrage while making the rounds of the morning television news shows. He said he wished Egeland hadn't made the comment and reaffirmed that the Bush administration will follow up with assistance that could stretch into the billions of dollars.

The White House also defended the U.S. record of giving.

"We outmatch the contributions of other nations combined; we'll continue to do so," Bush spokesman Trent Duffy told reporters in Crawford, Texas, where the president is spending a post-Christmas vacation at his ranch.

Natsios said the Paris organization's figures overlook a key factor -- the billions more Americans give each year in private donations.

Americans last year gave an estimated $241 billion to charitable causes -- domestic and foreign -- according to a study by Giving USA Foundation. That's up from $234 billion in 2002. The foundation did not break down how much was for domestic causes and how much for foreign.

"That's a European standard, this percentage that's used," Natsios said. "The United States, for 40 years, has never accepted these standards that it should be based on the gross national product. We base it on the actual dollars that we spent."

"The reason is that our gross national product is so enormous. And our growth rates are so much higher than the other wealthy nations."
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLIT....ap/index.html

David! 12-29-2004 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Je suis desolee mais mon Francais est ne pas tres bon

Vive la Révolution !!!

Webby 12-29-2004 02:20 PM

Yea yea King.

The world has it one way of assessing values, but the US has to come up with another deviant way of expressing the same thing to ensure they come out on top.

Hell... even within the OECD the US accepts the figures "as is" without deviation, but has to paint another picture outside for the benefit of "my dick is better". Others just smile....

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:21 PM

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Vive la Révolution !!!
deux biere sil-vous-plait :glugglug :glugglug

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:23 PM

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The world has it one way of assessing values, but the US has to come up with another deviant way of expressing the same thing to ensure they come out on top
exactly more propaganda for the stupid masses

theking 12-29-2004 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Yea yea King.

The world has it one way of assessing values, but the US has to come up with another deviant way of expressing the same thing to ensure they come out on top.

Hell... even within the OECD the US accepts the figures "as is" without deviation, but has to paint another picture outside for the benefit of "my dick is better". Others just smile....

Bottom line fact...1% of $1,000,000 is more money than 5%of $100,000 and since the US has...by far the largest GNP on the earth...simple math works out well. Per Capita means shit when it comes to total dollars...now doesn't it?

Webby 12-29-2004 02:26 PM

Johny Traffic:

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deux biere sil-vous-plait
Don't ya just love the French JT?? :-)

They have culture, decent wine (the real stuff) and live in the real world and show social responsibility to all :-)

When ya want to move there?? :winkwink:

The downside is they have common sense and that gets them some enemies :-)

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:27 PM

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Per Capita means shit now when it comes to total dollars...now doesn't it?
No its doesnt, becuase there are 100 people over in one place that give more than 100 people in another place. Combining European countries to get the same population would meen we would give more by far.

You have alot. You give very little
Others have very little. They give alot.

Webby 12-29-2004 02:28 PM

theKing:

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Bottom line fact...
Facts are the bottom line. They are published everywhere and have not been in dispute by anyone - including the US.

Some call that accounting standards.

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:29 PM

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Don't ya just love the French JT?? :-)
Im English we dont love anyone :upsidedow

Not even ourselfes :costumed-

theking 12-29-2004 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
No its doesnt, becuase there are 100 people over in one place that give more than 100 people in another place. Combining European countries to get the same population would meen we would give more by far.

You have alot. You give very little
Others have very little. They give alot.

"alot"...does not compare to actual total dollars given my the USA. Did you not read that the USA gives more than the other Nations combined...or do you just refuse to believe it.

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:32 PM

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"alot"...does not compare to actual total dollars given my the USA. Did you not read that the USA gives more than the other Nations combined...or do you just refuse to believe it.
the whole world has one way of measuring. The US, Fox news and Bush have another

I guess it depends whos version you believe :food-smil

theking 12-29-2004 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Johny Traffic:



Don't ya just love the French JT?? :-)

They have culture, decent wine (the real stuff) and live in the real world and show social responsibility to all :-)

When ya want to move there?? :winkwink:

The downside is they have common sense and that gets them some enemies :-)

That is assuming that one does not mind the smell. Maybe the US should contribute some soap to France and several other European countries.

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:33 PM

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That is assuming that one does not mind the smell. Maybe the US should contribute some soap to France and several other European countries.
Gotta say dude, that did make me laugh for real. Ive had a few drinks and that hit the spot :winkwink:

crockett 12-29-2004 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Foriegn aid last year

7. France $104.68 per person
20. United States $23.76 per person

get a fucking clue please :frenchman

Using your donations per person numbers and Yahoo's world fact book
it seems the US still donates more.. However I think this method is flawed and I don't think it shows an accurate amount but assuming your numbers are correct it should be close..

United States $23.76 x 275,562,673 (est population) = $6,547,369,110.48

France $104.76 x 59,329,691 (est population) = $6,215,378,429.16

3. Denmark $302.72 x 5,336,394 (est population) = $1,615,433,191.68
2. Norway $307.95 x 4,481,162 (est population) = $1,379,973,837.90
1. Luxembourg $352.30 x 437,389 (est population) = $154,092,144.70

theking 12-29-2004 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
the whole world has one way of measuring. The US, Fox news and Bush have another

I guess it depends whos version you believe :food-smil

I beleive in the count...when one contributes 1% of $1,000,000...the count is easy...it is more than 5% of $100,000. So the USA gives less per capita but the dollar count is still higher than the other nations combined. So who would you want to recieve aid from the USA or the other nations.

Webby 12-29-2004 02:38 PM

Johny Traffic:

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Im English we dont love anyone

Not even ourselfes
I know... I'm from there!! :-)

Can you see anyone from the UK (or any other nation) standing up and uttering such a load of uninformed bullshit mouth and "my-dick-is-bigger" than what you see from the US?

You notice the defensive manner in any topic? I can't see me jumping to the defence of eg the UK if they conducted themselves like this :-) They'd be getting blasted to fuck!! :-) Must be the "American disease" - the stuff that makes em utter shit like "US hater" and all that crap. Seems there is more "hating" of other nations there than anything I've ever seen.

I just find it embarassing and wish to fuck they were actually aware of reality. Tho can't say the US folks I have working here are anywhere like that - they got more sense than the idiot element of GFY.

directfiesta 12-29-2004 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theking
Did you not read that the USA gives more than the other Nations combined...or do you just refuse to believe it.

Pigshit according to your president:

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Bush noted that the United States provided $2.4 billion "in food, in cash, in humanitarian relief to cover the disasters for last year. ... That's 40 percent of all the relief aid given in the world last year."

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLIT....ap/index.html
But you could still be right ... since this Bush is know tro be a liar or fact changer...LOL !!!!

Webby 12-29-2004 02:41 PM

Johny Traffic:

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That is assuming that one does not mind the smell. Maybe the US should contribute some soap to France and several other European countries.
See what I mean by hating?? :-)

They end up with loads of percieved enemies under their beds :-)

What's worse is even the French don't give a fuck and wonder!

theking 12-29-2004 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
Pigshit according to your president:



But you could still be right ... since this Bush is know tro be a liar or fact changer...LOL !!!!

Your quote just covers one area of aid provided by the USA and that provided by the government...which does not include private aid.

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The United States uses the most common measure of the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a group of 30 rich nations that counts development aid.

By that measure, the United States spent almost $15.8 billion for "official development assistance" to developing countries in 2003. Next closest was Japan, at $8.9 billion.

That doesn't include billions more the United States spends in other areas such as AIDS and HIV programs and other U.N. assistance.

QuaWee 12-29-2004 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
France was the first country to have a team on the ground...they began making fresh water for people immediately.

That will probably save alot of lives. :2 cents:

so? They need money also. Just cause they made water does not mean they should be stingy finanacially

theking 12-29-2004 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Johny Traffic:



See what I mean by hating?? :-)

They end up with loads of percieved enemies under their beds :-)

What's worse is even the French don't give a fuck and wonder!

I do not like smelly people...my freedom of choice...being excercised.

Chichio 12-29-2004 02:50 PM

This is an extremely trivial debate. People are dead and dying and I believe that most of the countries of the world understand that and will give what they can.

Webby, in response to your comment about Americans being defensive. I agree with you. Americans come off as defensive sometimes. I believe it?s in reaction to a perceived inability to do enough for the world. Sometimes it feels we?re damned either way. It doesn?t matter what we do we will always be looked at as the bad guys.

Webby 12-29-2004 02:52 PM

theKing:

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The United States uses the most common measure of the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a group of 30 rich nations that counts development aid.
King... what figures do you think are being quoted??? Those of the US Treasury?? The figures quoted ARE those of the OECD G7 countries.

What exactly is disputable about that???

Frankly... I can't be bothered - ya could spend a year in a locked room and still come out with bullshit that suited you, but was divorced from any rational picture all countries know of..

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 02:53 PM

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This is an extremely trivial debate
This is GFY a porn webmasters forum :NopeNope

Entropy 12-29-2004 02:53 PM

Does anyone even take the French seriously?

theking 12-29-2004 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
theKing:



King... what figures do you think are being quoted??? Those of the US Treasury?? The figures quoted ARE those of the OECD G7 countries.

What exactly is disputable about that???

Frankly... I can't be bothered - ya could spend a year in a locked room and still come out with bullshit that suited you, but was divorced from any rational picture all countries know of..

The figures show that the USA spends more in total dollars in international aid than other nations combined. Unless you simply refuse to believe it...if that is the case then so be it. I for one do not give a fuck about what you choose to believe...or not believe.


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