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martyVP 12-29-2004 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy
I run a large adult affiliate company. I was entertaining selling it but I don't really know what it would be worth.

I am very secretive about what I do here so privacy must be assured before I can give any details.

If you are interested in hearing about it email me.

james at yank me dot com

go ahead and email me a confidentiality agreement marty at videopass dot com

Snake Doctor 12-29-2004 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutella
Active recurring will go on and on. There will be a steady decline only if promotion stops and no new joins are taken but there will still be more then 1/2 even at the 6 month mark.

There's no way the average paysite stops taking traffic today and still has half of its members in 6 months. NO WAY.

Obviously you can keep the member count constant with new traffic coming in, but that new traffic is yours, not the previous owners.

And obviously if the site doesn't come with the rebills the price will be much lower....that goes without saying.
However that is one way to work the deal, especially if the previous owner pulls some really shady billing on the way out the door....the new owner doesn't want to eat the chargebacks for that....so the new owners get a new merchant account (or IPSP account) to process from and the old owner keeps his old members and his credits/chargebacks

:2 cents:

Far-L 12-29-2004 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by J.R.
Alot of webmasters have no real idea on the value of programs
or perhaps their own programs.

Value should be depicted from:

Revenue (rebills)
Daily Revenue ( average new joins )
Traffic ( webmasters and surfers )
Content ( if its niche/exclusive )
Webmaster Database
Members Database

One important fact often overlooked, Has the program
maintained any growth or have the held steady for a significant
amount of time ?

This shows security in the site.

You could add brand recognition to that list but otherwise I say that is some excellent advice.

Snake Doctor 12-29-2004 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R.
Alot of webmasters have no real idea on the value of programs
or perhaps their own programs.

Value should be depicted from:

Revenue (rebills)
Daily Revenue ( average new joins )
Traffic ( webmasters and surfers )
Content ( if its niche/exclusive )
Webmaster Database
Members Database

One important fact often overlooked, Has the program
maintained any growth or have the held steady for a significant
amount of time ?

This shows security in the site.

I agree with that....but I still won't give you 1.75 million....LOL
(Not that I have that lying around anyways)

baddog 12-29-2004 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R.
Alot of webmasters have no real idea on the value of programs
or perhaps their own programs.

Value should be depicted from:

Revenue (rebills)
Daily Revenue ( average new joins )
Traffic ( webmasters and surfers )
Content ( if its niche/exclusive )
Webmaster Database
Members Database

One important fact often overlooked, Has the program
maintained any growth or have the held steady for a significant
amount of time ?

This shows security in the site.


Those items and others. Name recognition is another asset.

Snake Doctor 12-29-2004 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L
You could add brand recognition to that list but otherwise I say that is some excellent advice.

In your case brand recognition would be the most valuable part of the package.

But very few in this biz have that sort of branding.

baddog 12-29-2004 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2
However that is one way to work the deal, especially if the previous owner pulls some really shady billing on the way out the door....the new owner doesn't want to eat the chargebacks for that....so the new owners get a new merchant account (or IPSP account) to process from and the old owner keeps his old members and his credits/chargebacks

:2 cents:


It is a valid point. I have had potential buyers that have stated they don't want the existing members

Top Jimmy 12-29-2004 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP
go ahead and email me a confidentiality agreement marty at videopass dot com


What is your full name?

LA Mike 12-29-2004 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kBizzle
Anytime I see anyone use the term EBITA
I must say I get impressed-


It just tells me there are some REAL businessmen this left in this business.

Thanks Marty you gave me some hope going into this tradeshow that I will meet and talk to some old schoolers who know about business and don't do business with people just because they bought them a drink...

:-))

Hey, KB... how much EBITA you got in your wallet? lol I'm selling some hoes :)

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy
What is your full name?


I will fill that part in for you

Far-L 12-29-2004 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
In your case brand recognition would be the most valuable part of the package.

But very few in this biz have that sort of branding.

Thanks for the compliment! I do think there are quite a few good to some great brands out there. Lord knows the competition these days is fierce..

Assets like domains would also have to be added to the list for evaluation.

LA Mike 12-29-2004 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Usually by wire.


hahaahah, nice

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike
Hey, KB... how much EBITA you got in your wallet? lol I'm selling some hoes :)


I will pay you $160.00 for your $100.00 hoe. :xmas-smil

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike
Hey, KB... how much EBITA you got in your wallet? lol I'm selling some hoes :)


Your program must be worth a pretty penny.

Far-L 12-29-2004 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP
I will pay you $160.00 for your $100.00 hoe. :xmas-smil


KB hoes are a better investment in today's market... imo...

J.R. 12-29-2004 12:19 AM

Hey LAMIKE,

We just opened a new feed, it could be of some
good use for your newer sites.

www.BustyFeeds.com

I will give you 30 days free to try it out!

let me know!

LA Mike 12-29-2004 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyVP
I will pay you $160.00 for your $100.00 hoe. :xmas-smil


hahaha, and she'll stay for longer then my members :)

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L
KB hoes are a better investment in today's market... imo...


This might be true

baddog 12-29-2004 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike
hahaahah, nice


I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitresses.

LA Mike 12-29-2004 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R.
Hey LAMIKE,

We just opened a new feed, it could be of some
good use for your newer sites.

www.BustyFeeds.com

I will give you 30 days free to try it out!

let me know!

Send me off an email [email protected] and cc [email protected] and we'll take a look :)

JFK 12-29-2004 12:25 AM

100 great buys :xmas-smil

LA Mike 12-29-2004 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP
Your program must be worth a pretty penny.

But no way in hell would I take 1.6 :)

I would take minimum 3 years profits I think... but I enjoy what I do so It would be hard to get from me at even that price

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike
But no way in hell would I take 1.6 :)

I would take minimum 3 years profits I think... but I enjoy what I do so It would be hard to get from me at even that price


Understood

pxxx 12-29-2004 12:36 AM

I am actually learning something new from a gfy thread. It is a miracle.

Top Jimmy 12-29-2004 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP
I will fill that part in for you


um... no. :)

KRL 12-29-2004 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy
um... no. :)

:1orglaugh

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy
um... no. :)


OK, that was wierd...

Snake Doctor 12-29-2004 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxxx
I am actually learning something new from a gfy thread. It is a miracle.

2nd one this week.....must be something to do with the holidays.

Don't worry, we'll be back to "would you hit it" shortly after the new year.

JFK 12-29-2004 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxxx
I am actually learning something new from a gfy thread. It is a miracle.

Ahhhhhhmazing isnt it ...........what will they think of next :laughing-

Theo 12-29-2004 12:44 AM

Have in mind that these purchases often can be risky. You'll better guarantee the other part will stay away from the adult business or figure a way. Affiliate programs generate most of their revenues from their top 10-20 affiliates. Someone with the experience can clone the program he already sold and get the top affiliates to the new one.

Top Jimmy 12-29-2004 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP
OK, that was wierd...


I'd rather have my Lawyer take care of the filling in. :)

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
Have in mind that these purchases often can be risky. You'll better guarantee the other part will stay away from the adult business or figure a way. Affiliate programs generate most of their revenues from their top 10-20 affiliates. Someone with the experience can clone the program he already sold and get the top affiliates to the new one.


Of course

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Jimmy
I'd rather have my Lawyer take care of the filling in. :)


I was only talking about the part where I put my name and lastname bud :xmas-smil

makefuckingmoney 12-29-2004 12:47 AM

Marty,


There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...

pxxx 12-29-2004 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
2nd one this week.....must be something to do with the holidays.

Don't worry, we'll be back to "would you hit it" shortly after the new year.

Keep them coming, that is the reason i joined this board.


I would be lying if i told you that i can join in on this conversation, but i am reading my ass off.


Hopefully we do not return to "hit it" threads.

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney
Marty,


There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...


That's not good....

I appreciate what you are saying though.

JFK 12-29-2004 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney
Marty,


There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...


great point.................

slapass 12-29-2004 12:54 AM

Quiet was bitching a while ago about not being able to sell for more then 6 months income. Not sure if he was serious.

PS baddog, I don't have millions but if you have a site for sale Iam looking. icq 166708909 shoot me a ball park number and I will see if i am in range. I won't waste either of our times if not possible.

Snake Doctor 12-29-2004 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney
Marty,


There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...

That's what I was referring to when I mentioned the old owner keeping his own rebills and chargebacks and the new owner setting up new processing accounts.

Of course now that you have to register urls with VISA I'm not sure you can do it that way.

martyVP 12-29-2004 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
Quiet was bitching a while ago about not being able to sell for more then 6 months income. Not sure if he was serious.

PS baddog, I don't have millions but if you have a site for sale Iam looking. icq 166708909 shoot me a ball park number and I will see if i am in range. I won't waste either of our times if not possible.


I know of a program selling for 750 k (its not what i am looking for but if you are interested i will ask him to get you details.)

Is 750k in your ballpark?


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