iBill - what are they asking for? - GoFuckYourself.com

Big E · 12-26-2004, 06:21 PM

For people who are "owed" payments and have theoretically switched over to Gkard, what is iBill asking for? I had heard they are asking for continued sending of signups to get previous money. What constitutes "continued" sending of traffic? If a website stops sending signups, they're not going to get any future payments? How is this all going to work?

TheWylders · 12-26-2004, 06:31 PM

I don't think you have to send a specific number of signups to remain active, as long as you haven't removed the link.

Big E · 12-26-2004, 06:54 PM

That's cool.. just "de-emphasize" the link. ha ha ha =)

Hinc · 12-26-2004, 07:45 PM

What´s the big difference by now?

If you keep the link - they dont send any money.
If you remove the link - they dont send any money

Ah yeah I know, at least one of the options sort of keeps hope alive...but it seems more like a daydream than a strategy.

MandyBlake · 12-26-2004, 08:50 PM

why not ask your account rep?

crockett · 12-26-2004, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandyBlake

why not ask your account rep?

wouldn't that be like asking someone to blow smoke up your ass?

lol if Ibill owed me a lot of money, with their recant track record.. Well to put it simply they would be the last ones I'd be asking anything but wheres my money.

aiken · 12-26-2004, 09:01 PM

Hey, Big E. I haven't seen you for a while; hope things are good and maybe we'll run into each other in Vegas. The 420hp t/a is for sale at that place in the gaslamp, if you're looking for a new fast car

Anyways, if Ibill is telling you you have to send them more business in order for them to repay an admitted debt... talk to a lawyer. They owe you money -- threatening to withhold that debt unless you send more business certainly opens them up to additional civil liability, and possibly criminal liability as well. Your lawyer will be able to give the best advice on how to proceed.

Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.

Cheers
-b

Hinc · 12-26-2004, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiken

Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.

I send the fuckas 2 new signups today, maybe tomorrow they´ll send a mighty nice huge check....or not...

Btw, nice to be reminded of bondage.com, i´d forgotten i was actually still a premium member there

Cogitator · 12-26-2004, 10:24 PM

I heard IBill is going to have a booth in Vegas. Man, that takes balls. They're going to get so much shit from people...

NETbilling · 12-26-2004, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiken

Hey, Big E. I haven't seen you for a while; hope things are good and maybe we'll run into each other in Vegas. The 420hp t/a is for sale at that place in the gaslamp, if you're looking for a new fast car

Anyways, if Ibill is telling you you have to send them more business in order for them to repay an admitted debt... talk to a lawyer. They owe you money -- threatening to withhold that debt unless you send more business certainly opens them up to additional civil liability, and possibly criminal liability as well. Your lawyer will be able to give the best advice on how to proceed.

Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.

Cheers
-b

Aiken,

Please call me at the office tomorrow or hit me up on ICQ. I wanted to invite yoou to a friends/clients dinner that we are sponsoring in Vegas. I also have Rumjungle tickets for you.

Looking forward to seeing you.

Mitch

P.S. Big-E, let me know if your dinner plans change on the 3rd as we would love to have you join us as well. Of course, I have your tickets as well.

Giorgio_Xo · 12-26-2004, 11:31 PM

As mentioned before.. if Ibill doesn't pay what they offered by Internext, I will forward a complaint of fraud before the U.S. Attorney's office.

MissMina · 12-27-2004, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc

What´s the big difference by now?

If you keep the link - they dont send any money.
If you remove the link - they dont send any money

.

MissMina · 12-27-2004, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giorgio_Xo

As mentioned before.. if Ibill doesn't pay what they offered by Internext, I will forward a complaint of fraud before the U.S. Attorney's office.

Let us know how it turns out.

GTS Mark · 12-27-2004, 01:29 AM

Big E, if you showed up at their corporate offices I am sure they would whip the cheque book out asap. LOL! You're one intense guy, especially at the craps tables

DH

psyko514 · 12-27-2004, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiken

Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.

Cheers
-b

After all this bullshit they've put everyone through, you'd still send them business if they made good on their debts?

Hinc · 12-27-2004, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psyko514

After all this bullshit they've put everyone through, you'd still send them business if they made good on their debts?

Actually, in some strange way - they may have figured, they are forced to not pay us what they owe, because they´re aware that when they do, we´re out of there with the pity remains of their business.

As it is, at least some stay, in the hope that they´ll pay - thus filling their pockets for as long as it goes...

Big E · 12-27-2004, 07:04 AM

Thanks for all the comments guys..

I should note that this isn't for us - I'm asking the question for someone else. Mac and Bumble has been on its own merchant account since May.

Big E · 12-27-2004, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiken

Hey, Big E. I haven't seen you for a while; hope things are good and maybe we'll run into each other in Vegas. The 420hp t/a is for sale at that place in the gaslamp, if you're looking for a new fast car

Anyways, if Ibill is telling you you have to send them more business in order for them to repay an admitted debt... talk to a lawyer. They owe you money -- threatening to withhold that debt unless you send more business certainly opens them up to additional civil liability, and possibly criminal liability as well. Your lawyer will be able to give the best advice on how to proceed.

Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts.

Yeah, I'm in the market for a new fast car, but I've already got my eye on something else.. I'll show you pix when I get it. =)

Big E · 12-27-2004, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHard

Big E, if you showed up at their corporate offices I am sure they would whip the cheque book out asap. LOL! You're one intense guy, especially at the craps tables

DH

Ha ha.. good stuff. You'll know where to find me if you want to play some more.. I made you some good money. =) I'll try not to get us cut off this time..

Zprogramz · 12-27-2004, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E

Thanks for all the comments guys..

I should note that this isn't for us - I'm asking the question for someone else. Mac and Bumble has been on its own merchant account since May.

Who did you get you merchant account through and who are you processing with?

Z

HMS · 12-27-2004, 10:26 AM

If you are looking for your own merchant account I will soon be able to assist. Humboldt Merchant Services currently processes multi-million dollars per month in adult transactions. We truly desire to bring on more adult accounts, but Visa has put a temporary stop to that. We have reached our "maximum allowable ratio" of adult vs. non adult processing dollars. As our non adult portfolio grows we will again be able to bring on additional adult accounts. We are looking at March/April to be able to do so. If you feel you would be interested I am currently building a list of folks to contact as soon as this opens up. Simply email me your contact info and I will add you to my notification list.

HMS does require the following:
-2 years in business
-currently processing $100K per month (can by 3rd party, direct, or combination of)
-CB's under 1%
-using one of a select few gateways (NETBILLING, Jettis, CyberSource, etc)

If you meet these I can get you the following rates:
Discount Rate (non qualified) 4.6%
Transaction fee $0.30 (including AVS)
Monthly Statement Fee $10.00
High Risk registration / set-up fees $2790

Believe me when I say I would LOVE to bring these accounts on now, but Visa simply will not allow it.

EMAIL ME TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN WE ARE AGAIN ABLE TO OPEN DIRECT ACCOUNTS!

Steve Kimberling, AVP
Humboldt Merchant Services
877-635-3339
[email protected]

NETbilling · 12-27-2004, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMS

If you are looking for your own merchant account I will soon be able to assist. Humboldt Merchant Services currently processes multi-million dollars per month in adult transactions. We truly desire to bring on more adult accounts, but Visa has put a temporary stop to that. We have reached our "maximum allowable ratio" of adult vs. non adult processing dollars. As our non adult portfolio grows we will again be able to bring on additional adult accounts. We are looking at March/April to be able to do so. If you feel you would be interested I am currently building a list of folks to contact as soon as this opens up. Simply email me your contact info and I will add you to my notification list.

HMS does require the following:
-2 years in business
-currently processing $100K per month (can by 3rd party, direct, or combination of)
-CB's under 1%
-using one of a select few gateways (NETBILLING, Jettis, CyberSource, etc)

If you meet these I can get you the following rates:
Discount Rate (non qualified) 4.6%
Transaction fee $0.30 (including AVS)
Monthly Statement Fee $10.00
High Risk registration / set-up fees $2790

Believe me when I say I would LOVE to bring these accounts on now, but Visa simply will not allow it.

EMAIL ME TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN WE ARE AGAIN ABLE TO OPEN DIRECT ACCOUNTS!

Steve Kimberling, AVP
Humboldt Merchant Services
877-635-3339
[email protected]

Humboldt is a great bank to work with and we have MANY merchants placed there. While Humboldt is awaiting the ability to take on new adult merchants, Netbilling has solutions to set merchants up for adult membership, products and mainstream including retail.

Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456

Thank you, Mitch Farber

p.s. Will you be at Internext Steve?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-27-2004, 12:09 PM

Ibill is actually gonna have a booth?

I will be staying clear of it, I wouldnt be surprised if a suicide bomber hits it.

HMS · 12-27-2004, 12:09 PM

Mitch -

InterNext is not on the horizon for me, unfortunately. I am not sure if we will have other members in attendance or not. In any event I will keep you, and anyone else interested, updated as to when we can take on new adult clients. THE SOONER THE BETTER!

Steve Kimberling, AVP
Humboldt Merchant Services
877-635-3339
[email protected]

DEA - banned for life · 12-27-2004, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMS

If you are looking for your own merchant account I will soon be able to assist. Humboldt Merchant Services currently processes multi-million dollars per month in adult transactions. We truly desire to bring on more adult accounts, but Visa has put a temporary stop to that. We have reached our "maximum allowable ratio" of adult vs. non adult processing dollars. As our non adult portfolio grows we will again be able to bring on additional adult accounts. We are looking at March/April to be able to do so. If you feel you would be interested I am currently building a list of folks to contact as soon as this opens up. Simply email me your contact info and I will add you to my notification list.

HMS does require the following:
-2 years in business
-currently processing $100K per month (can by 3rd party, direct, or combination of)
-CB's under 1%
-using one of a select few gateways (NETBILLING, Jettis, CyberSource, etc)

If you meet these I can get you the following rates:
Discount Rate (non qualified) 4.6%
Transaction fee $0.30 (including AVS)
Monthly Statement Fee $10.00
High Risk registration / set-up fees $2790

Believe me when I say I would LOVE to bring these accounts on now, but Visa simply will not allow it.

EMAIL ME TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN WE ARE AGAIN ABLE TO OPEN DIRECT ACCOUNTS!

Steve Kimberling, AVP
Humboldt Merchant Services
877-635-3339
[email protected]

Any chance of getting the visa fee waived for new accounts?Some of us who are getting dry fucked in the turd cutterby Ibill sure could use a break on switching over to a new processor.?

..oops almost forgot...IBILL will most likley be charging the Annual 350$ fee for visa's here shortly...if im correct it was 750$ to get in and 350$ a year to renew??...Wonder how that will go over

DEA - banned for life · 12-27-2004, 12:14 PM

That last post was actullay for mitch..

NETbilling · 12-27-2004, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA

Any chance of getting the visa fee waived for new accounts?Some of us who are getting dry fucked in the turd cutterby Ibill sure could use a break on switching over to a new processor.?

..oops almost forgot...IBILL will most likley be charging the Annual 350$ fee for visa's here shortly...if im correct it was 750$ to get in and 350$ a year to renew??...Wonder how that will go over

If you are in the US, you must pay the registration fees. For offshore, there is no registration fees.

Mitch

Hinc · 12-27-2004, 01:26 PM

Sounds like some good options.

However, 100k in cross sales - gotta be honest, I was never anywhere close to that, so gotta look for options accepting smaller volumes.

NETbilling · 12-27-2004, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc

Sounds like some good options.

However, 100k in cross sales - gotta be honest, I was never anywhere close to that, so gotta look for options accepting smaller volumes.

Our mimimum volume limit for adult is 10k, not 100k.

Mitch

Webby · 12-27-2004, 02:24 PM

If iBill do have a booth - I'm interested in the source of funds for this and which webmasters actually ended up paying for this bullshit.

I know iBill is reading GFY threads and hiding. Just know the clock is ticking... and faster.... it's down to days now before you have more of a problem than just finding funds to pay folks at least some money.

Start by answering all email... that's the easy bit.

Big E · 12-27-2004, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zprogramz

Who did you get you merchant account through and who are you processing with?
Z

I'm not going to say where our merchant account is based, but I will say that we're EXTREMELY happy with our current bank.

Our gateway is NetBilling, and Mitch (and staff) have been a great help..

tony286 · 12-27-2004, 04:32 PM

I hope they pull through because if they dont its going to hurt.

DEA - banned for life · 12-27-2004, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

I hope they pull through because if they dont its going to hurt.

Hope so too..but with no new CMI updates in about a week...and noone answering the phones or emails..its hard to keep the faith

.

keyboard warrior · 12-27-2004, 06:21 PM

NO Update today in CMI

:

hyper · 12-27-2004, 06:28 PM

wow more iBill drama?

Dejavu

Rochard · 12-27-2004, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandyBlake

why not ask your account rep?

The fired them all!

tony286 · 12-27-2004, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard

The fired them all!

Not true I talk to my rep bari on icq at least once a day.

Webby · 12-27-2004, 07:06 PM

tony404:

Quote:

Not true I talk to my rep bari on icq at least once a day.

Yea... there are reps there - ain't their fault iBill is shit and some reps are hiding.

Now that all excuses have been exhausted, apart from my dog died, - we are into speechless mode now and unable to respond to an email when money is mentioned. But OK otherwise....

BTW.. still waiting for a response if iBill is reading this - and I know you are:-) And no.. I ain't gotta tell you to fuck yourself - I'll be real nice!! It's just a biz thing and clear up some lies which ya were probably pressed up to do...

Hinc · 12-27-2004, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

Not true I talk to my rep bari on icq at least once a day.

Aha, and what does he tell you?

Any payments in the horizon for instance??

camcutie · 12-27-2004, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

Not true I talk to my rep bari on icq at least once a day.

Bari Rocks... shes been my rep for as long as I can remember. Always up front with me.

*Krystal*

12-26-2004, 06:21 PM	#1
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	iBill - what are they asking for? For people who are "owed" payments and have theoretically switched over to Gkard, what is iBill asking for? I had heard they are asking for continued sending of signups to get previous money. What constitutes "continued" sending of traffic? If a website stops sending signups, they're not going to get any future payments? How is this all going to work?

12-26-2004, 07:45 PM	#4
Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	What´s the big difference by now? If you keep the link - they dont send any money. If you remove the link - they dont send any money Ah yeah I know, at least one of the options sort of keeps hope alive...but it seems more like a daydream than a strategy. __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

12-26-2004, 08:50 PM	#5
MandyBlake The one and only! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 17,761	why not ask your account rep? __________________ Mandy's Playhouse Her First Fat Girl If you're interested in promoting my sites, ICQ me! 178411921

12-26-2004, 09:01 PM	#7
aiken Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kona, HI Posts: 204	Hey, Big E. I haven't seen you for a while; hope things are good and maybe we'll run into each other in Vegas. The 420hp t/a is for sale at that place in the gaslamp, if you're looking for a new fast car Anyways, if Ibill is telling you you have to send them more business in order for them to repay an admitted debt... talk to a lawyer. They owe you money -- threatening to withhold that debt unless you send more business certainly opens them up to additional civil liability, and possibly criminal liability as well. Your lawyer will be able to give the best advice on how to proceed. Us, we're not sending another dime of new business through Ibill unless and until they make good on past debts. Cheers -b __________________ ICQ: 12005327

12-26-2004, 10:24 PM	#9
Cogitator Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 672	I heard IBill is going to have a booth in Vegas. Man, that takes balls. They're going to get so much shit from people... __________________ - this space intentionally left blank -

12-26-2004, 06:31 PM	#2
TheWylders Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 623	I don't think you have to send a specific number of signups to remain active, as long as you haven't removed the link.

12-26-2004, 06:54 PM	#3
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	That's cool.. just "de-emphasize" the link. ha ha ha =)

12-26-2004, 11:31 PM	#11
Giorgio_Xo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,263	As mentioned before.. if Ibill doesn't pay what they offered by Internext, I will forward a complaint of fraud before the U.S. Attorney's office. __________________ Make Levees, Not War

12-27-2004, 01:29 AM	#14
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Big E, if you showed up at their corporate offices I am sure they would whip the cheque book out asap. LOL! You're one intense guy, especially at the craps tables DH

12-27-2004, 07:04 AM	#17
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	Thanks for all the comments guys.. I should note that this isn't for us - I'm asking the question for someone else. Mac and Bumble has been on its own merchant account since May.

12-27-2004, 10:26 AM	#21
HMS Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 84	If you are looking for your own merchant account I will soon be able to assist. Humboldt Merchant Services currently processes multi-million dollars per month in adult transactions. We truly desire to bring on more adult accounts, but Visa has put a temporary stop to that. We have reached our "maximum allowable ratio" of adult vs. non adult processing dollars. As our non adult portfolio grows we will again be able to bring on additional adult accounts. We are looking at March/April to be able to do so. If you feel you would be interested I am currently building a list of folks to contact as soon as this opens up. Simply email me your contact info and I will add you to my notification list. HMS does require the following: -2 years in business -currently processing $100K per month (can by 3rd party, direct, or combination of) -CB's under 1% -using one of a select few gateways (NETBILLING, Jettis, CyberSource, etc) If you meet these I can get you the following rates: Discount Rate (non qualified) 4.6% Transaction fee $0.30 (including AVS) Monthly Statement Fee $10.00 High Risk registration / set-up fees $2790 Believe me when I say I would LOVE to bring these accounts on now, but Visa simply will not allow it. EMAIL ME TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN WE ARE AGAIN ABLE TO OPEN DIRECT ACCOUNTS! Steve Kimberling, AVP Humboldt Merchant Services 877-635-3339 [email protected]

12-27-2004, 12:09 PM	#23
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12-27-2004, 12:14 PM	#26
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	That last post was actullay for mitch..

12-27-2004, 01:26 PM	#28
Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	Sounds like some good options. However, 100k in cross sales - gotta be honest, I was never anywhere close to that, so gotta look for options accepting smaller volumes. __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

12-27-2004, 02:24 PM	#30
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	If iBill do have a booth - I'm interested in the source of funds for this and which webmasters actually ended up paying for this bullshit. I know iBill is reading GFY threads and hiding. Just know the clock is ticking... and faster.... it's down to days now before you have more of a problem than just finding funds to pay folks at least some money. Start by answering all email... that's the easy bit. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

12-27-2004, 04:32 PM	#32
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I hope they pull through because if they dont its going to hurt.

12-27-2004, 06:21 PM	#34
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	NO Update today in CMI : __________________ - nothing here -

12-27-2004, 06:28 PM	#35
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	wow more iBill drama? Dejavu __________________