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Old 10-17-2001, 11:18 PM   #1
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TGSW / Automated Submitter Users Please Read This

I'm in the process of building an autosubmitter program that will submit to TGPs, SEs, LLs, and AVS. If you already use TGSW, Russian Submiter or Link Up pro as well as other autosubmitters, please send me ideas as to new features/improvements. I am looking at adding Artificial Intelligence capabilities to the submitter in regards to traffic generation and verification--ie., which gallery design gets the most clicks, what text and color sequence gets the most clicks, etc.

First 100 serious suggestions get a free copy of the client and access to the server.
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Old 10-17-2001, 11:20 PM   #2
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Can you make it smile, frown, and cry depending on my mood?

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Old 10-17-2001, 11:21 PM   #3
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How about an option radio button / check box feature that would automatically hack into the TGP sites main page and insert the gallery listing, thus bypassing the review process. Now that I would fork over some cash for!

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Old 10-17-2001, 11:27 PM   #4
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Actually they have those. Just check slashdot.org archives to see what I mean. Old jr high trick but I think there's already a patch against that.

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How about an option radio button / check box feature that would automatically hack into the TGP sites main page and insert the gallery listing, thus bypassing the review process. Now that I would fork over some cash for!

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Old 10-18-2001, 01:01 AM   #5
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LOL!

And your AI will makes a one most clickable standart of gallery design with most clickable description, colors, e.t.c and all galleries will be the same, and all serfers will like it...and all tgp will ban it.

Be free with my ideas.

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Old 10-18-2001, 01:03 AM   #6
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Old 10-18-2001, 01:26 AM   #7
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For the se part, it should make a page optimized for each engine, a page that follows that specific se's algorithm.

And the same goes for the AVS sites, the entrance pages that is submitted to the AVS should be optimized to meet that specific AVS's algorithm.

It should ofcause autoupdate the databases.

It should be able to bypass green guy's anti autosubmission script

It should have a "hub fucntion" for encreased link popularity.

You could include a bannerrotator, so you only inserts one banner code on fetish sites, one banner code for teen sites and so on, that would make it a lot easier to test new sponsors, skip old sponsors etc.

hmmm that s a few of the things the I thinks is missing in the existing autosubmission software.
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Hmmm, thanks for the concern re autosubmission banning -- most of the big guys ban fully automated submits--AL4, Hun, etc. The work around is a "semi-automated" submitter--these are available already. I'll look into putting that functionality into the beta.

As for "success" tracking of design, layout, banners, this is old news--cybererotic, big-penis, and other big programs have targetted messaging capabilities in their promotions materials. What is new is that we're planting this into the submitter itself so you can "scientifically" determine which design/layout make the most money and "optimize" all your galleries/links/free sites/avs/se pages accordingly.

Thanks for the great ideas.

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LOL!

And your AI will makes a one most clickable standart of gallery design with most clickable description, colors, e.t.c and all galleries will be the same, and all serfers will like it...and all tgp will ban it.

Be free with my ideas.

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Old 10-18-2001, 07:14 AM   #9
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Thor,

Thanks for the great ideas. The hub portion should be fairly easy--basically create an indexer. As for autosubmission anti-scripts workarounds, see my earlier response to "Wad" above.

As for SE and AVS algorithm these should be fairly easy as well.

I like the banner rotator alot but there should be a manual admin for this to make sure the banner you choose goes well with the rest of the layout. We can plug this into the AI function as well.

Thanks! Good ideas, keep em coming!
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For the se part, it should make a page optimized for each engine, a page that follows that specific se's algorithm.

And the same goes for the AVS sites, the entrance pages that is submitted to the AVS should be optimized to meet that specific AVS's algorithm.

It should ofcause autoupdate the databases.

It should be able to bypass green guy's anti autosubmission script

It should have a "hub fucntion" for encreased link popularity.

You could include a bannerrotator, so you only inserts one banner code on fetish sites, one banner code for teen sites and so on, that would make it a lot easier to test new sponsors, skip old sponsors etc.

hmmm that s a few of the things the I thinks is missing in the existing autosubmission software.
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Old 10-18-2001, 07:20 AM   #10
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Hi,
Here a good idea because I want that free copy BTW what will it cost?

It would be nice if you could add more tgp's easier. Now you have to look for the form fieldsnames etc.

Further would it be nice if you put tgsw and tgswupdates together. I mean the idea with updating. The only think now is(with them) if you use tgswupdates and you added some tgp's manually, and a new version of updates is available, you have to add the the manually tgp's again.

Well hope this is good information...

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Old 10-18-2001, 07:34 AM   #11
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Hi Andre,

Thanks for the idea, it's already in the specs--one universal update service which does not disturb your manual entries. It actually gathers the TGPs you manually entered, compares it with a database, and adds it if it is missing. Also creating an easier interface for "disabling" "enabling" certain tgps.

Thanks again, and I've put you on the beta distribution list.

Please email all suggestions to [email protected]

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Hi,
Here a good idea because I want that free copy BTW what will it cost?

It would be nice if you could add more tgp's easier. Now you have to look for the form fieldsnames etc.

Further would it be nice if you put tgsw and tgswupdates together. I mean the idea with updating. The only think now is(with them) if you use tgswupdates and you added some tgp's manually, and a new version of updates is available, you have to add the the manually tgp's again.

Well hope this is good information...

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Old 10-18-2001, 07:47 AM   #12
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Thor,

Thanks for the great ideas. The hub portion should be fairly easy--basically create an indexer. As for autosubmission anti-scripts workarounds, see my earlier response to "Wad" above.

As for SE and AVS algorithm these should be fairly easy as well.

I like the banner rotator alot but there should be a manual admin for this to make sure the banner you choose goes well with the rest of the layout. We can plug this into the AI function as well.

Thanks! Good ideas, keep em coming!
Did I qualify for a free copy ?

You should make it so that when making tgp galleries it should be possible to use 10 templates so it wont be the exactly same gallery style every day


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Old 10-18-2001, 09:12 AM   #13
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the programm should be able to handle multiple domains (i really hate it to cut and paste TGSW´s setup.pl all the time)
and it should be able to import submit forms like LinkUpPro does (handy thing that reads the form variables automatically !! - have you ever tried to add a TGP to the TGSW database by hand, working through the html and search for the form fields ???)

tom

p.s. oh - and i would never buy a client-server application - stand alone systems only
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Old 10-18-2001, 11:38 AM   #14
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I want it with a Sylvia Saint GUI

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how much traffic you ppl get from Russian Submitter of 1 free hosted gallery ?

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Old 10-18-2001, 12:58 PM   #16
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I would like to have a stats system involved like a counter that is placed in where the recips are that would assign a unique ID to that gallery so that you can see whats listed and whats working

and then it would be easier to decide whats making you money and whats sucking bandwith and bringing no sales

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Old 10-18-2001, 02:29 PM   #18
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Well, i want the free program too. But for avs ll and se, not for tgp.

As an asian tgp owner, which lists "only" asian galleries. Not blonde, readhead , russian, or shemale! Those stupid guys who use tgsw or russian submitters still able to post them to my site. (TGWS put the word ASIAN_ONLY after my domain, but that doesn't effect the result) This is the first suggestion.

The second is, i want the tracking system like which tgp links my gallery, how much visitors, and productivity. Save in the database and able to view it daily, weekly, or monthly. Also compares with the database and report that which tgp i submit the galleries to doesn't link me! WoW!

If yours can do these all, I would buy it
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Your suggestions are already in place in the tech specs/prototype--it is multi category filtered. So, it can filter out non asian pics to your tgp and won't submit. If you have asian sub niches ie., asian lesbian, asian s&m, asian facials, it can do this as well [category splitting]

This would make a great tool for super niche tgp sites.

As for counting productivity, we already have parts of that built but also tells you:
1) top gallery layouts in terms of production

2) top text combination in terms of production

3) which banners produce the most clicks


Basically, we're building an all in one SE/TGP/AVS/LL tool that lets you 1) automate your job 2) make you more efficient at your job and 3) MAKE YOU MONEY!

I've been asked to put proxy switching capabilities but maybe that can be a "Gold" version of this s/w... ie., STEALTH submissions.

Please keep the GOOD ideas coming, Tim, you're on the beta list as well as the guys above who responded.

Let's keep the ideas going!

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Well, i want the free program too. But for avs ll and se, not for tgp.

As an asian tgp owner, which lists "only" asian galleries. Not blonde, readhead , russian, or shemale! Those stupid guys who use tgsw or russian submitters still able to post them to my site. (TGWS put the word ASIAN_ONLY after my domain, but that doesn't effect the result) This is the first suggestion.

The second is, i want the tracking system like which tgp links my gallery, how much visitors, and productivity. Save in the database and able to view it daily, weekly, or monthly. Also compares with the database and report that which tgp i submit the galleries to doesn't link me! WoW!

If yours can do these all, I would buy it
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Hmmm, so basically you want a way to "tag" the submission pages of TGPs for indexing.

I think I can do that. Makes it easier to add new TGPs. Also built in database will let you purge non producing TGPs from your submission list.

This brings up one of the guiding philosophies of mass advertising [and that is what TGP is]: generate traffic, then filter to your best producer of signups... more does not necessarily mean better.

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Hi,
Here a good idea because I want that free copy BTW what will it cost?

It would be nice if you could add more tgp's easier. Now you have to look for the form fieldsnames etc.

Further would it be nice if you put tgsw and tgswupdates together. I mean the idea with updating. The only think now is(with them) if you use tgswupdates and you added some tgp's manually, and a new version of updates is available, you have to add the the manually tgp's again.

Well hope this is good information...

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Old 10-18-2001, 07:58 PM   #21
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Done! Differing templates not just for 1 type of gallery but many differing porn categories
Asian:
template 1
template 2
template 3

Ebony
template 1
template 2
etc

each with tracking system to determine which design draws the most traffic
I'm working on cross indexing capabilities

backend dbase filter determines which design is the best producer [ie., # of SU's per 1000 traffic]


Also has a link list page ge
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Thor,

Thanks for the great ideas. The hub portion should be fairly easy--basically create an indexer. As for autosubmission anti-scripts workarounds, see my earlier response to "Wad" above.

As for SE and AVS algorithm these should be fairly easy as well.

I like the banner rotator alot but there should be a manual admin for this to make sure the banner you choose goes well with the rest of the layout. We can plug this into the AI function as well.

Thanks! Good ideas, keep em coming!
Did I qualify for a free copy ?

You should make it so that when making tgp galleries it should be possible to use 10 templates so it wont be the exactly same gallery style every day


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Multiple domain support. Good idea. DONE--its in the specs!

Each domain will have differing niche specialties that you can set/reset.

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the programm should be able to handle multiple domains (i really hate it to cut and paste TGSW´s setup.pl all the time)
and it should be able to import submit forms like LinkUpPro does (handy thing that reads the form variables automatically !! - have you ever tried to add a TGP to the TGSW database by hand, working through the html and search for the form fields ???)

tom

p.s. oh - and i would never buy a client-server application - stand alone systems only
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I know you're kidding but anyway, "skins" capability is probably near the bottom of the request list for this. Maybe for version 3, we can do this like WinAmp or NeoPlanet

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This is in the specs already. Counter is located on your server but read locally though.

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I would like to have a stats system involved like a counter that is placed in where the recips are that would assign a unique ID to that gallery so that you can see whats listed and whats working

and then it would be easier to decide whats making you money and whats sucking bandwith and bringing no sales

Just my thoughts


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SE capability--everytime you autogenerate a TGP, LLsite, AVS door, the system submits it to 30 se's.

A buddy said that to make it GOOGLE friendly I should build in an automated link network. I think this may be redundant since the TGPs LLs and AVS areas you're submitting to are linking to you already....

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Well, i want the free program too. But for avs ll and se, not for tgp.

As an asian tgp owner, which lists "only" asian galleries. Not blonde, readhead , russian, or shemale! Those stupid guys who use tgsw or russian submitters still able to post them to my site. (TGWS put the word ASIAN_ONLY after my domain, but that doesn't effect the result) This is the first suggestion.

The second is, i want the tracking system like which tgp links my gallery, how much visitors, and productivity. Save in the database and able to view it daily, weekly, or monthly. Also compares with the database and report that which tgp i submit the galleries to doesn't link me! WoW!

If yours can do these all, I would buy it
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Old 10-18-2001, 09:26 PM   #26
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i think a blacklist-proof submitter would be really cool, autosubmit tools are sometimes abused and i got blacklisted at some "medium" TGPs for using them (can't read the rules of 1000 tgps sorry ) , 2 ways to implement this comes to mind:
1) by asking TGP owners permission to add their TGP to your database, and or
2) having your own blacklist (databse on your server) where tgp owners can report cheaters, if you get a lot of complaints about a particular user it gets banned.
Anyway i don't know if this is good/bad for your business since you can lose some customers, but it would be the biggest autosubmitter so it wil pay in the long run
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I have been using TGSW for 10 months now. I like being able to choose different image folders, then being able to make a template for each img directory, but what I'd like to see is the option to make each all folders the same category in the tgp database. For instance I do fetish sites... all one niche, but 30 dif directories because I want my descriptions to be more specific. But configuring 300 tgps x30 is 9000 categories selecting instead of 30. That would be a time saver.

What else I'd like is preconfigured recips... mostly text, different in small tables size 200px max width. I do this now with my recips. I do link to some recips that are 5k or smaller. This next part may be difficult since I'm not sure how often you'll be updating and visiting each site. If there could be a rules section listing how many submissions a day you could submit. Then I want to be able to run it a 2nd time that day and have the program not submit to the 1per day TGPs. I would also like the option of having go from img folder in order of alphabetic or having it randomly choose them. Like Asian, Teen, BBW, etc.

The things I like about TGSW is being able to put notes for each tgp, and click on the tgp name and have it open a new browser window to the submit page, and the browser emulation when submitting.

I hope you enjoyed my input and I'm hoping to be one of the beta testers!
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i´m not sure if you want to do a central database - if so - how do you want to manage different passwords to sumission forms for preffered users (partners) ?

tom

p.s. i´m really interested in an good auto submitter for ll - how does your programm handles the diffent doorways for link list groups ??
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If you get this program to work the way it is described here, it going to fucking rock
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Thor, thanks for the support.

FINAL CALL FOR SUGGESTIONS, PLEASE EMAIL ME ALL YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO [email protected]

I will set up the product validation polling fairly shortly to determine which features are "urgent" and which are "premium" or "optional"

Thanks again, my vision is to MAKE YOU MORE MONEY THROUGH AUTOMATION AND INTELLIGENT MARKETING STRATEGIES

I want webmasters to strategize and think more instead of wasting their time in menial repetitive work. So Im automating the menial stuff and automating data gathering/advertising info feedback so they can have the info they need to STRATEGIZE and execute their business plans.

Let's do this!

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Hi Tom,

The centralized database is on your local installation. Multiple domain/multiple password/multiple ftp support is in the specs and basically uses differing databases.

For the link list portion of the program: uses differing templates and differing buttons for the different lls--then reconfigures your page package so that each ll submission looks different has differing banners,text layouts, etc. Thanks to Michelle of ParisGraphixxx for this functionality.

Anything else? FINAL CALL FOR SPECS until product polling and product demand validation.
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i´m not sure if you want to do a central database - if so - how do you want to manage different passwords to sumission forms for preffered users (partners) ?

tom

p.s. i´m really interested in an good auto submitter for ll - how does your programm handles the diffent doorways for link list groups ??
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