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Old 12-23-2004, 06:51 AM   #1
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ccbill: Oliver's Money - are you set to 1% payout?

I discovered earlier today that I was set to 1% payout, and no rebills. So far I've found two other webmasters with the same settings.

Check your affiliate stats (click on the "Tools" tab) to see if they've done it to you as well...
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:02 AM   #2
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Make that 6 other webmasters who also have the same 1% setting...

Has this program closed down?
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:03 AM   #3
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:04 AM   #4
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I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:06 AM   #6
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Same here but with a different signup date.
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:11 AM   #7
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Getting scammed by him too.
Time to pull links.
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:12 AM   #8
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:12 AM   #9
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Icqed him this thread.. curious what he'll say
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:14 AM   #10
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I don't think Oliver would do it on purpose.

He probably didn't fix it when CCbill had switched to the new stats. (there was a glitch)
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:14 AM   #11
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Icqed him this thread.. curious what he'll say
"It's a glitch, the glitch is, I tried to scam my webmasters out of their money and somehow they found out, this should be fixed asap and I guarantee you, we WILL find a way to scam you without you knowing about it so you can sleep better at night."
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:18 AM   #12
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yup, been at 1% for a while, emails never returned either
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:19 AM   #13
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same here, damn 1% no rebills
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:23 AM   #14
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:25 AM   #15
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It's "Olivers Money" not YOURS!
Or at least 99% of it is
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:25 AM   #16
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Old 12-23-2004, 07:47 AM   #17
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Oliver's Money gives you 1% of the signup and then nothing,
Donny's Money gives you 50% of the signup and then nothing.
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:04 AM   #18
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If you guys didn't noticed it before you probably weren't promoting them anyway... So that's not that bad...

Still fucked up, but not that bad....
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:08 AM   #19
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Damn that sucks I had them in my list of sites to sign up for glad I didn't get too them yet...
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:11 AM   #20
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Damn, Glyn used to be a great guy. I could never see him doing that intentionally, but you'd think that if the "glitch" somehow cut the rev-share percentage to 1% and 99% and rebills were stopped, that should've increased his income DRASTICALLY to the point where he'd wonder where all of the extra income was coming from, thus the problem should have been solved immediately.
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:13 AM   #21
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my program has always been set to 50% and will CONTINUE to be there...no "glitches" whatsoever.

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Old 12-23-2004, 08:29 AM   #22
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:36 AM   #23
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:49 AM   #24
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:58 AM   #25
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The change was done sometime in October, all my rebills disappeared then.
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Old 12-23-2004, 09:04 AM   #26
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Old 12-23-2004, 09:34 AM   #27
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No Shit... I don't know how I missed that either.

Looks like my last paid signup was on Nov. 3 . Now instead of rapping presents I've got to start pulling links.

Thanks for the $0.34 signups you cocksucker!!!
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Old 12-23-2004, 09:37 AM   #28
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no wonder i only made $5 off those 14 sales i pushed him yesterday

/me needs to start paying attention
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hrm... forgot to add a wink... yeah, im joking. dont take me seriously
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Old 12-23-2004, 09:40 AM   #30
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I discovered earlier today that I was set to 1% payout, and no rebills. So far I've found two other webmasters with the same settings.

Check your affiliate stats (click on the "Tools" tab) to see if they've done it to you as well...
Thanks for the tip rowan

I fucking banned that russian cock sucker
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:23 AM   #32
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:25 AM   #33
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This has been posted on Olivers Money front page since November 22, 2004

***11/22/04 We have noticed some problems with changes to the payout percentage on some webmasters accounts. If you notice any change please contact us right away. It's an easy fix and you will not lose any commisions on sales.***

To date I have only received 11 emails with this problem. And none of those had any lossed sales.

Rowand, I got your email this morning at 9am you sent it to me last night at 7:20 pm, sorry I don't work 24hrs a day. From what I can see you have made no sales in the last 2 months, do you see anything different?

If you or anyone has lossed any sales contact me and I will make good plus a bonus of 50%.

Any webmaster with sales made while set to 1% needs to contact me right away.

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Old 12-23-2004, 10:34 AM   #34
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I've done business with Glynn since he started online..and know him personally.He runs a tight,honest program.I wish every program I ever worked with since 1998 was as good as his.
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:38 AM   #35
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Getting scammed by him too.
Time to pull links.
i bet you don't even promote him
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:39 AM   #36
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Glyn told me about this a while ago by himself and fixed the bug.
My payouts are like normal. If you don't think you can trust Glyn the world is lost....
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:41 AM   #37
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While this seem like the program's fault, I think ccBill bears some responsibility for their negligence in informing affiliates of commission changes. They could just send a simple e-mail message stating what changes are made, when they're made. It's almost like they try and make themselves as attractive to scammers as possible, although if that were really true I suppose they'd allow commissions to be set all the way to 0%, instead 1%.

"Oliver" does note on his site:

"11/22/04 We have noticed some problems with changes to the payout percentage on some webmasters accounts. If you notice any change please contact us right away. It's an easy fix and you will not lose any commisions on sales."

Though if they really wanted to fix the problem, I'd think they could manually check their affiliates' account settings themselves...whatever the easy fix is if they were contacted, would presumably be a similarly easy fix if they weren't contacted. Sounds like maybe an unintentional error which was intentionally not addressed well.
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Processors do have reporting issues when it comes to these items from time to time. Before you hang a sponsor out to dry make sure you get all the facts first. I know of 5 other sponsors that had the same exact issue a year ago and of course, the sponsor was nailed for "stealing" and the reporting error was called bullshit. Here is just a couple other examples (several more seem to be showing up also now) of reporting errors that could cost program owners their company and reputation. Its interesting that its the same processor and same issue. ;)

I LOVE CCbill and will always back them up. But, with the TONS of info they pour through their system on a daily basis its pretty easy to see how a reporting error may occur from time to time dispite their best efforts to make sure things run perfect. It happens. I HIGHLY doubt Donovan P or Oliver's went in and changed there payouts only to fuck themselfs in the ass.

Check your stats and get with your sponsors if you think something is wrong. We cant see what is being reported in your affiliate admin, we can only see what are settings are in the webmaster admin. Its a totally different interface and may not always reflect the same information. Reporting differences between the two interfaces will occur.
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Hm, Oliver and Perfect slipped in. If there's no way for a program administrator to list their affiliates or see what they're paying their affiliates, I'm surprised, but I retract what I said, this would be almost entirely ccBill's fault.
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Some affiliates just come right out and say they're assholes! Here is a direct quote from AbbyWinters webmaster page:

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"...While we're interested in growing our site, we're not going to do the things many affiliates demand. We'd love to have you on board, but our site is doing just fine without you.

Here's what we offer to you as an affiliate:
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No rebills
It's that simple. This might be your cue to say "pffft! no fucking way, dude!", and that's fine - our program is not for you."


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Some affiliates just come right out and say they're assholes! Here is a direct quote from AbbyWinters webmaster page:

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"...While we're interested in growing our site, we're not going to do the things many affiliates demand. We'd love to have you on board, but our site is doing just fine without you.

Here's what we offer to you as an affiliate:
50% on initial subscription
No rebills
It's that simple. This might be your cue to say "pffft! no fucking way, dude!", and that's fine - our program is not for you."


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Nice way to treat the people who make you money, dipfuck!



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Old 12-23-2004, 11:14 AM   #42
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whats up stu, nice to see you around
Thanks...I usually just lurk around here but every now and then I post somethin'. So how you been?
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I don't think Oliver would do it on purpose.

He probably didn't fix it when CCbill had switched to the new stats. (there was a glitch)

This SAME subject was covered on one of the Asian webmaster boards, and he stated that it was a glitch, and that he fixed it..

He said all this, over a month ago, so if its' still the same, either he didn't fix it, or ..........
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Anyone who thinks Oliver would do this intentionally should pull his links for being oblivious anyway. Oliver is one of the VERY FEW honest guys in this biz. He's been around for ages and has some of the highest converting sites around. People like Minte and Freeones have been using him for MANY years for good reason.

Oliver becomes personal friends with many of his affiliates, how many sponsors can say that?

Don't you think if Oliver was going to fuck his webmasters he'd be smart enough to implement a transparent Shave-O-Meter like 98% of the other affiliate programs out there utilize? Would it not be the stupidest thing ever to just go set people's payouts to 1% so they could see it? That's not very discreet, now is it?

GFY should have a Brain-Scanner to check your IQ before allowing you to post to curb slanderous statements like this.
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:23 AM   #45
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Thanks...I usually just lurk around here but every now and then I post somethin'. So how you been?
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:41 AM   #46
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I can assure you Glyn (Oliver) would not do this intentionally..

He's already contacted and fixed the problem with webmasters sending regular sales since day 1.

If you are set to that setting, contact em and he'll make it up.

No way Oliver has done this intentionally. He's one of the good guys.

Ill vouch for him anyday of the week, he's a friend, and he's family.

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Why would anyone intentionally have this setting anyway when they know these settings are displayed freely to the webmaster?

Makes no sense.

Pretty obvious its a mistake.

If you have this setting, just hit em up..

Its not like this setting is hidden. Its displayed right there in your stats.
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:49 AM   #50
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