| Libertine |
12-21-2004 08:19 PM |
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Originally posted by Agent White
Here's som footage of Mas Oyama.
http://www.kyokushinmail.com/koya/Kyokushin.htm
As someone who's trained for most of his life, there's a few things I'd like to point out.
1. One of the scenes where he's sparring, the video is cut to make him look faster. It's so poorly cut that you don't even need to go frame by frame. It's Oyama1.avi and his "opponent" takes a real hollywood swing over his head to facilitate the action.
2. When he's fighting the bull, he's a rope wrapped around his hand that's tied to the bull's nose ring. Anyone could fight a moderately sized bull with that kind of control. That would be like me fighting Royce Gracie but I've got his nuts in a choke chain and he's handcuffed. Even Ron Bluming, one of Oyama's top students, knows that most of this stuff was BS and wrote about it.
3. In one of the sparring clips his student throws two kicks at him while standing full facing for the entire fight. Anyone higher than yellow belt in a sparring martial art knows that this is just suicide, so I have to wonder if that video clip was contrived (Oyama5.avi). Also, why is the attacker not blocking? He's got his hands straight up in the air like Oyama has a gun.
You may need to find a new hero.
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It is a well know fact that he rigged stuff for many demonstrations, simply because he didn't want to leave stuff to chance. That may be less than honorable, but it is also a fact that he did many things which to this day haven't been equalled.
Jon Bluming (Jon, not Ron) wrote and said a lot of stuff about many people, most of which is just arrogant bullshit. Like many of the things he says about Anton Geesink or the Gracies, for example. We're talking about the guy who claims the Gracies contributed nothing new to martial arts here :1orglaugh
As for fighting a bull apparently being easy in your opinion... let's see you do it then. I'm waiting for a video.
It is a simple fact that Mas Oyama fought and won many fights against many fighters from many different disciplines (though not as many as often claimed), that he completely reshaped karate (by adding in elements of, among other things, muay thai and by introducing full contact sparring) and that he was one of the first people to create a framework for mma.
Someone like Kimura (who defeated Helio Gracie), even said that Oyama was one of the only fighters he really feared.
Seriously, if you think Mas Oyama wasn't an extremely good fighter, you took one too many punches in the head :2 cents: |
