Well... last Kimbo fight i've seen, he lost! :(

Don't get me wrong: Kimbo is a tough son of a gun. But he isn't even in the same book as Oyama.

He was beat by a training mma fighter... not even pro yet. :1orglaugh

Not even in the same world.

And he'd get beat by any pro K-1 fighter any day of the week.

no idea, I guess you are right! only thing I know is that...this one fight where he blew the guy's eye out was pretty impressive!..

(note: I don't know shit about MMA or K-1 etc..just speaking from a spectator's point of view! :winkwink: )

Kimbo is a bad mofo, but I doubt he can be considered one of the baddest ever.

Yea I seen that vid, that was a freak accident. Infact sean gannon (the guy who beat kimbo) was contacted by K-1 in trying to setup a rematch, cause the kimbo fans do not acknowledge the lost....

I hope it does happen and this time it'll be in the ring, on PPV.

I'd love to see Bob Sapp vs Kimbo two big man go at it... it'd be a slug fest.

http://ko.sherdog.com/fightfinder/pi...pp_profile.jpg

http://www.njpw.co.jp/result/2004/01...p/img/901b.jpg

I shot these two guys as well as Randy Couture for a mainstream ad....all amazing fighers and rock'n cool people....

Dan Henderson

http://www.fulcrumstudio.com/fsimages/dan-henderson.jpg

Matt Lindland

http://www.fulcrumstudio.com/fsimage...wide_color.jpg

50

steve case was the best fighter ever

Speaking of Dan Handerson, he will be fighting Yuki Kondo on the PRIDE FC "Shockwave" Fight Card

FAR OUT MAN!!!
Never heard of them in thenews thougha t all.sorry.:2 cents:

This event is going to be hot!


http://www.pridefc.com/pride2004/sho...owckwave04.jpg

And yes thats USA Rulon Gardoner gold medalist greco wresltler in the back...


Hidehiko Yoshida vs. Rulon Gardoner
(Japan/Yoshida Dojo) (USA/Team Quest)

1. Japan didn't even know about Karate until the early 1900's, so.. huh? It's an Okinawan martial art, one they developed to beat the Japanese. Applying Budo ideals to Karate is like saying that Ghengis Khan was Sun Tzu's prodigy. Doesn't work if you know history.


2. Head kicks: Karate, the original style, and undoubtedly the style taught to Mas Oyama, doesn't have kicks about the waist. Are you talking about kicking opponents on the ground?


In my years of training, I've seen some amazing stuff. I've seen a guy's cup get broken in half by a front kick in a sparring match. I've seen guys break boards with their feet over 10 feet off the ground.

But when it comes to martial arts, only believe what you see. Everything else take with a grain of salt, as usually the people telling the story idolize the main character, and have a tendency to embellish.

bob sapp is from colorado springs

one of my older friends went to high school with him
said he was a really nice guy

Here's som footage of Mas Oyama.

http://www.kyokushinmail.com/koya/Kyokushin.htm


As someone who's trained for most of his life, there's a few things I'd like to point out.


1. One of the scenes where he's sparring, the video is cut to make him look faster. It's so poorly cut that you don't even need to go frame by frame. It's Oyama1.avi and his "opponent" takes a real hollywood swing over his head to facilitate the action.

2. When he's fighting the bull, he's a rope wrapped around his hand that's tied to the bull's nose ring. Anyone could fight a moderately sized bull with that kind of control. That would be like me fighting Royce Gracie but I've got his nuts in a choke chain and he's handcuffed. Even Ron Bluming, one of Oyama's top students, knows that most of this stuff was BS and wrote about it.

3. In one of the sparring clips his student throws two kicks at him while standing full facing for the entire fight. Anyone higher than yellow belt in a sparring martial art knows that this is just suicide, so I have to wonder if that video clip was contrived (Oyama5.avi). Also, why is the attacker not blocking? He's got his hands straight up in the air like Oyama has a gun.



You may need to find a new hero.

Do weapons count?

Despite what people can do with one strike and so forth, I've always loved Miyamoto Musashi.

Thanks for the info. Something about the tall tales of this dude reaked of bs.

"Mas Oyama, in order to show the strength of his karate, tested his strength by fighting raging bulls bare-handed. It was a mismatch from the get-go for the bulls, not for Oyama. In all, he fought 52 bulls, three of which were killed instantly, and 49 had their horns taken off with knife hand blows"

Wow

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Myth and legend mean squat. They're built up over time usually about people that have not been documented properly or falsified bs. Let's put this guy in a US arena without tricks, camera editing, and bogus tales of inhuman achievement. Something tells me he would be toast against true fighters...all day every day.

Andy Hug - best K1 Fighter of all times :thumbsup

this kick is still known as "Andy Kick"
http://www.pamalam.ch/images/andy%20kick%202.jpg

http://www.fightingmaster.com/legend.../andyhug28.jpg

http://www.belmundo.ch/Hug_Seite/ahu..._t_5_gross.jpg

http://www.pamalam.ch/andy.html

I like the picture of the mice boxing, thats cool.

Kimbo go this ass handed to him by Sean Gannon, a Boston Police Officer last month.

that's gonna be a hell of a good fight!

Our CTO competed against Rulon back in the day and was on the Barcelona Olympic team. Says Rulon is one tough son of a bitch.

He's good, but hes not that good.... :1orglaugh oh and RIP.

Yea.. Fedor vs NOG 3 is going to be awesome too. :-) I can't wait!

bump for the day

Cro-Cop is bad ass

Dude that guy is my hero...

bet he liked canned ham as much as I do !

lol not that good... LOL he was among the best of the best!

Hacksaw could kick all their asses.

http://www.thewrestlingview.com/hacksaw1.jpg

I will admit he's a crazy guy. Didn't he almost get taken out by an anaconda in a river once?

in kyokushinkai-full-contact karate heavy weight:

1987: runner up world championship and european champion
1989: european champion
1991: runner up european championship and in the top eight at the world championships
1992: full-contact karate world champion
WMTC Super Heavy Weight World Champion
UKF Super Heavy Weight World Champion
WKA-Mua-Thay Super Heavy Weight World Champion

he defended all those titles until his sudden death in August, 2000 (leukemia).

RIP Andy san

fuck that kona kai ownes you!



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Cobra Kai.

I personally know several people who were direct students under Mas Oyama. I'd believe their stories over someone just watching a video or trying to read between the lines of a book somewhere. The story about the bull wasn't a fight, but a demonstration of power. How many people could kill a bull by punching it, even if they had complete control over it by the nose ring, balls or whatever? How many people could rip it's horn off? That's what's impressive about the demonstration. I don't claim Oyama to be my "hero" by any means, but I respect his accomplishments and his martial art.

amen, it's nice to see I am not the only fan

wow, bad ass :thumbsup