These kinds mails are so frustrating. - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty F · 12-17-2004, 07:58 AM

I wanted to pay for watching Your site. Im from Poland and I have VISA card. I\'m sure that everything with the card is OK (my bank confirmed that the card is OK). But I cannot make a transaction with CCbil.Igot \" card declined by pre auth\" I was trying with another card and everything remain the same.Probably the problem is that the ccbill is a US company and doesn\'t have an agreement with Polish banks. Please inform me how can I pay those 24 bucks.
Best Regards
adam

Scrubbing and getting less chargebacks is good but i have the feeling ccbill scrubs so goddamn hard, its ridiculous.

CCbill several times rejected my perfectly fine mastercard as well.

polish_aristocrat · 12-17-2004, 08:07 AM

I can confirm this, I cannot use my polish card to enter US porn sites. And other polish webmasters confirmed the same

Both CCbill and Epoch decline polish cards by default. You could have a card with the highest limit, but it would still be declined.

From US processors only Jettis and - very rarely - Ibill accepted polish cards. But Jettis merged somehow with Epoch I think and Ibill...everyone knows the story.

European processors accept polish cards with no problems though.

polish_aristocrat · 12-17-2004, 08:09 AM

Funny thing this is what I have been told by CCbill when I inquired about their processing for my paysite.

"Yes you can still offer Dialer access in areas that the banks are blocked from signups. Although Poland is not a blocked country for us."

Dirty F · 12-17-2004, 08:12 AM

Typo's in thread titles are also frustrating.

tradermcduck · 12-17-2004, 08:15 AM

Something like this on your join page

Join By Snail Mail
Send $XX to
PO Box Address
including a user/pass plus email address

is a cheap solution for this problem.

Va2k · 12-17-2004, 08:18 AM

Yes this happens all the time. If I don't get an email daily about it then I would be scared lol... I send them to epoch and they normaly get right in. Or send them to paypal or have them send me check or moneyorder or even cash I have 4 money orders sitting here at the moment lol BUTTTTT

ccbill has always been on top of things when I needed it so I guess it all works out in the end *shrugs*

polish_aristocrat · 12-17-2004, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tradermcduck
Something like this on your join page

Join By Snail Mail
Send $XX to
PO Box Address
including a user/pass plus email address

is a cheap solution for this problem.

Money can get stolen by the post in that case :-)
And wire transfer is probably also impossible since it would cost him $25 to send the $25 to you.
And noone in Poland will consciously use a dialer.

so Battus will lose a customer and that guy will continue to get his porn on TGP's....

Va2k · 12-17-2004, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Money can get stolen by the post in that case :-)
And wire transfer is probably also impossible since it would cost him $25 to send the $25 to you.
And noone in Poland will consciously use a dialer.

so Battus will lose a customer and that guy will continue to get his porn on TGP's....

Yea I agree to a point I forgot to mention if they send me money or checks in snail mail I give them 2 months for the price of a month and a half sometimes two months lol

mrthumbs · 12-17-2004, 08:38 AM

You kinds frustrate me Battus

Mefo · 12-17-2004, 08:41 AM

time for a good processor

Dirty F · 12-17-2004, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
You kinds frustrate me Battus

Haha

polish_aristocrat · 12-17-2004, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mefo
time for a good processor

what processor?

corvette · 12-17-2004, 10:24 AM

battus, if you want us to look at the specific decline reason, contact me, you have me on icq

Alex · 12-17-2004, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
Yea I agree to a point I forgot to mention if they send me money or checks in snail mail I give them 2 months for the price of a month and a half sometimes two months lol

Is that worth it though. Busting your ass off for a couple of bucks;

Verotel · 12-20-2004, 04:44 AM

For what it's worth and I'm guessing that's nothing for Badass but maybe something for the rest of you, Verotel accepts Polish Visa and MC credit cards as well as webmasters registering from Poland for processing.

What Badass said above about not being able to process Polish credit card transactions because they (the processor) don't have an agreement with Polish banks isn't correct. As a merchant with a merchant account to acquire credit card transactions (i.e., Visa and/or MC) it is not necessary that the merchant himself have a relationship with any particular bank that ISSUES Visa or MC credit cards. However, due to risks involved with processing transactions from certain countries the merchant himself or the acquiring bank can decide not to accept transactions from creidt cards ISSUED in particular countries.

Nylz · 12-20-2004, 05:08 AM

lolllllll @ Badass

Fake Nick · 12-20-2004, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verotel
For what it's worth and I'm guessing that's nothing for Badass but maybe something for the rest of you, Verotel accepts Polish Visa and MC credit cards as well as webmasters registering from Poland for processing.

What Badass said above about not being able to process Polish credit card transactions because they (the processor) don't have an agreement with Polish banks isn't correct. As a merchant with a merchant account to acquire credit card transactions (i.e., Visa and/or MC) it is not necessary that the merchant himself have a relationship with any particular bank that ISSUES Visa or MC credit cards. However, due to risks involved with processing transactions from certain countries the merchant himself or the acquiring bank can decide not to accept transactions from creidt cards ISSUED in particular countries.

learn to read before you come here spamming idiot

eldominik · 12-20-2004, 05:36 AM

But why for one POSSIBLE chargeback so huge number of credit cards are scrubbed.

Verotel · 12-20-2004, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
learn to read before you come here spamming idiot

I did but evidently you didn't. This may come in handy for you in the future: Official Hooked on Phonics Website

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Probably the problem is that the ccbill is a US company and doesn\'t have an agreement with Polish banks.

Quote:

Originally posted by Mefo
time for a good processor

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
what processor?

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
I can confirm this, I cannot use my polish card to enter US porn sites. And other polish webmasters confirmed the same

Both CCbill and Epoch decline polish cards by default. You could have a card with the highest limit, but it would still be declined.

From US processors only Jettis and - very rarely - Ibill accepted polish cards. But Jettis merged somehow with Epoch I think and Ibill...everyone knows the story.

European processors accept polish cards with no problems though.

Maybe FAKE NICK will be able to grasp the relevancy given the quoted posts but I won't hold my breath.

Fake Nick · 12-20-2004, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verotel
I did but evidently you didn't. This may come in handy for you in the future: Official Hooked on Phonics Website

Maybe FAKE NICK will be able to grasp the relevancy given the quoted posts but I won't hold my breath.

hahahahahahahaha fuckin IDIOT if anyone is HOOKED ON PHONICS it wil be YOU

Battuss knows god damn well how the visa shit works it HIS SURFER that doesnt , Battus doenst claim the polish banks have no agreemenst with us banks and thats why it wont work his FUCKIN SURFER does

read bitch before you claim I am on drugs

Verotel · 12-20-2004, 05:52 AM

To avoid confusion please replace in my previous post above:

What Badass said

With:

What was written in Badass' message

Does that help you Nick? Picky picky picky

Verotel · 12-20-2004, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
read bitch before you claim I am on drugs

Did anyone mention drugs?

Fake Nick · 12-20-2004, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verotel
To avoid confusion please replace in my previous post above:

What Badass said

With:

What was written in Badass' message

Does that help you Nick? Picky picky picky

that and the fact you keep on calling him badass

made me post my comment that you should learn to read before spamming your shit here

your entire comment was based on EDUCATING battus when there was no need for it

idiot

Fake Nick · 12-20-2004, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verotel
Did anyone mention drugs?

I do now

More Booze · 12-20-2004, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verotel
For what it's worth and I'm guessing that's nothing for Badass but maybe something for the rest of you, Verotel accepts Polish Visa and MC credit cards as well as webmasters registering from Poland for processing.

What Badass said above about not being able to process Polish credit card transactions because they (the processor) don't have an agreement with Polish banks isn't correct. As a merchant with a merchant account to acquire credit card transactions (i.e., Visa and/or MC) it is not necessary that the merchant himself have a relationship with any particular bank that ISSUES Visa or MC credit cards. However, due to risks involved with processing transactions from certain countries the merchant himself or the acquiring bank can decide not to accept transactions from creidt cards ISSUED in particular countries.

Verotel rocks! I convert way better with the verotel sites im promoting than any other.

Verotel: Do you have any plans to add epassporte as a payment option?

Verotel · 12-20-2004, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
that and the fact you keep on calling him badass

made me post my comment that you should learn to read before spamming your shit here

your entire comment was based on EDUCATING battus when there was no need for it

idiot

You ASSumed my comment was based on educating Buttass but it was meant to clear up any potential misunderstandings for anyone reading the post...like newbies perhaps.

And you shouldn't go getting emotional about what I call Buttass because he and I have had an ongoing love hate relationship for some time now and that really shouldn't concern you.

Verotel · 12-20-2004, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by More Booze
Verotel rocks! I convert way better with the verotel sites im promoting than any other.

Verotel: Do you have any plans to add epassporte as a payment option?

Thanks for your support. I haven't been told anything about us adding epassport.

Fake Nick · 12-20-2004, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verotel
You ASSumed my comment was based on educating Buttass but it was meant to clear up any potential misunderstandings for anyone reading the post...like newbies perhaps.

And you shouldn't go getting emotional about what I call Buttass because he and I have had an ongoing love hate relationship for some time now and that really shouldn't concern you.

it was

you suck

Verotel · 12-20-2004, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
it was you suck

And here I thought I was corresponding with an intelligent life form.

Please read the first six (6) letters of my previous post.

Fake Nick · 12-20-2004, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verotel
And here I thought I was corresponding with an intelligent life form.

Please read the first six (6) letters of my previous post.

pls reread your own original post

12-17-2004, 07:58 AM	#1
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	These kinds mails are so frustrating. I wanted to pay for watching Your site. Im from Poland and I have VISA card. I\'m sure that everything with the card is OK (my bank confirmed that the card is OK). But I cannot make a transaction with CCbil.Igot \" card declined by pre auth\" I was trying with another card and everything remain the same.Probably the problem is that the ccbill is a US company and doesn\'t have an agreement with Polish banks. Please inform me how can I pay those 24 bucks. Best Regards adam Scrubbing and getting less chargebacks is good but i have the feeling ccbill scrubs so goddamn hard, its ridiculous. CCbill several times rejected my perfectly fine mastercard as well.

12-17-2004, 08:07 AM	#2
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I can confirm this, I cannot use my polish card to enter US porn sites. And other polish webmasters confirmed the same Both CCbill and Epoch decline polish cards by default. You could have a card with the highest limit, but it would still be declined. From US processors only Jettis and - very rarely - Ibill accepted polish cards. But Jettis merged somehow with Epoch I think and Ibill...everyone knows the story. European processors accept polish cards with no problems though. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

12-17-2004, 08:09 AM	#3
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Funny thing this is what I have been told by CCbill when I inquired about their processing for my paysite. "Yes you can still offer Dialer access in areas that the banks are blocked from signups. Although Poland is not a blocked country for us." __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

12-17-2004, 08:18 AM	#6
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	Yes this happens all the time. If I don't get an email daily about it then I would be scared lol... I send them to epoch and they normaly get right in. Or send them to paypal or have them send me check or moneyorder or even cash I have 4 money orders sitting here at the moment lol BUTTTTT ccbill has always been on top of things when I needed it so I guess it all works out in the end shrugs __________________

12-17-2004, 08:41 AM	#10
Mefo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 6,169	time for a good processor __________________

12-17-2004, 08:12 AM	#4
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Typo's in thread titles are also frustrating.

12-17-2004, 08:15 AM	#5
tradermcduck Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Europe - By the way I know my nickname sucks ;-) Posts: 2,362	Something like this on your join page Join By Snail Mail Send $XX to PO Box Address including a user/pass plus email address is a cheap solution for this problem.

12-17-2004, 08:38 AM	#9
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	You kinds frustrate me Battus

12-17-2004, 10:24 AM	#13
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	battus, if you want us to look at the specific decline reason, contact me, you have me on icq __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

12-20-2004, 04:44 AM	#15
Verotel Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 202	For what it's worth and I'm guessing that's nothing for Badass but maybe something for the rest of you, Verotel accepts Polish Visa and MC credit cards as well as webmasters registering from Poland for processing. What Badass said above about not being able to process Polish credit card transactions because they (the processor) don't have an agreement with Polish banks isn't correct. As a merchant with a merchant account to acquire credit card transactions (i.e., Visa and/or MC) it is not necessary that the merchant himself have a relationship with any particular bank that ISSUES Visa or MC credit cards. However, due to risks involved with processing transactions from certain countries the merchant himself or the acquiring bank can decide not to accept transactions from creidt cards ISSUED in particular countries. __________________ Darryl McDade Merchant Relationship Executive Verotel Merchant Services BV

12-20-2004, 05:08 AM	#16
Nylz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 8,285	lolllllll @ Badass __________________ No sig.

12-20-2004, 05:36 AM	#18
eldominik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: EU Posts: 454	But why for one POSSIBLE chargeback so huge number of credit cards are scrubbed.

12-20-2004, 05:52 AM	#21
Verotel Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 202	To avoid confusion please replace in my previous post above: What Badass said With: What was written in Badass' message Does that help you Nick? Picky picky picky __________________ Darryl McDade Merchant Relationship Executive Verotel Merchant Services BV