Current Results of the #1 Spot on the Hun (Contest by Next Door Cash) - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

andrej_NDC · 12-18-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Yup, exactly what im seeing lately.

They have the excuse that theyre sold out anyway. The hun's first spot is sold out for months right. Well some people are making good money with it, thats for sure but most tgp owners are simply pushing it. demand is one thing but quality and being able to make money is something else. Price isnt calculated by demand only...do i make any sense here?

yup, thats the problem, that the price don't reflect the real opportunity to make sales, some owners ask a lot, some ask less...I would like to know how some of them figured the price they ask for the spots. One example, worldsex is asking $500 per spot, the same as hun until now, but we all know the difference in both sites...

pornguy · 12-18-2004, 04:45 PM

Congrats on the sales as that traffic can run hot and cold.

andrej_NDC · 12-18-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by sean416
I htink you're wrong there. the only time the price will drop is when there isn't enough buyers, till then it will continue to be the high price.

I know some sites with the same prices over years, and they are available each time I ask, mostly on the next day...I would guess, its a part of image of the site.

BV · 12-18-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by beemk
the gallery could just have a higher click through rate. you have to look at profit on something like this, not ratio. it could have half the click through ratio and make the same sales and your ratio would be 1:400. makes no difference to me as long as im making the same $.

I agree, probably the most overlooked issue in this industry, you make an agressive gallery and you're going to get higher ratios.

This problem bothers me when I am making my FHG templates. Personally I like to make them very aggresive. Prime up the surfer with some good content and then shuffle them off to the tour ASAP!

The only drawback, it makes your conv. ratios look worse.
& SINCE EVERYONE THINKS CONV RATIOS ARE SO IMPORTANT
you stand chance of being judged wrongly because of their own ignorance.

slapass · 12-18-2004, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by BV
I agree, probably the most overlooked issue in this industry, you make an agressive gallery and you're going to get higher ratios.

This problem bothers me when I am making my FHG templates. Personally I like to make them very aggresive. Prime up the surfer with some good content and then shuffle them off to the tour ASAP!

The only drawback, it makes your conv. ratios look worse.
& SINCE EVERYONE THINKS CONV RATIOS ARE SO IMPORTANT
you stand chance of being judged wrongly because of their own ignorance.

Truth and how do you avoid that? Blind links have horrible conversion but we all know it can lead to bank if done well.

bigdog · 12-18-2004, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by andrej_NDC
yup, thats the problem, that the price don't reflect the real opportunity to make sales, some owners ask a lot, some ask less...I would like to know how some of them figured the price they ask for the spots. One example, worldsex is asking $500 per spot, the same as hun until now, but we all know the difference in both sites...

yeah, a major difference in quality but worldsex uses free hosted galleries, he doesn't need people to buy gallery spots

Nima · 12-18-2004, 04:56 PM

way to go Yngwie and Andrej on a kickass program

you can't go wrong with nextdoorcash's sites

Theo · 12-18-2004, 04:56 PM

biskoppen, very good points

andrej_NDC · 12-18-2004, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by slapass
Truth and how do you avoid that? Blind links have horrible conversion but we all know it can lead to bank if done well.

I think he didn't mean blind links, there are many types of galleries, my last spot on thehun made almost the same amount of sales, but the gallery was "aggresive", so the ratio was 1:1700 raw, not 1:800 like now...different ratios, the same result

andrej_NDC · 12-18-2004, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Nima
way to go Yngwie and Andrej on a kickass program you can't go wrong with nextdoorcash's sites

thanks Nima

Yngwie · 12-18-2004, 05:02 PM

this was the gallery http://smashingmovies.com/andrej/

Paparazzi · 12-18-2004, 05:12 PM

Nice stats Yngwie

My last 2-5 spot broke even the first couple days and then the recurring was kicking in. Still have a few active members from that spot 9 months ago

Can't wait for my topspot in January

Twe Russ · 12-18-2004, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
Nice stats Yngwie
My last 2-5 spot broke even the first couple days and then the recurring was kicking in. Still have a few active members from that spot 9 months ago

Can't wait for my topspot in January

Who did you promote? Show an example of Gallery you used.

xclusive · 12-18-2004, 05:29 PM

Congrats happy that you did well very nice christmas present...

FunForOne · 12-18-2004, 05:55 PM

congrats.

I never win

bigdog · 12-18-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Yup, exactly what im seeing lately.

They have the excuse that theyre sold out anyway. The hun's first spot is sold out for months right. Well some people are making good money with it, thats for sure but most tgp owners are simply pushing it. demand is one thing but quality and being able to make money is something else. Price isnt calculated by demand only...do i make any sense here?

Soon it will be almost impossible to make good profit from the big tgps. Personally i couldnt be bothered spending 10k a month, a lot of time and energy on thumbs, galleries, etc just to make 1k profit.

Yes, it will still be able to make profit from a 650 spot...the question is how much.

A lot of people lose money on spots, they are just keeping the mouth quiet about it.If you are a paysite owner and you break even it's not bad, because webmasters will see your galleries all over the place, and maybe signup for your program

Paparazzi · 12-18-2004, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Twe Russ
Who did you promote? Show an example of Gallery you used.

sorry can't tell you

Twe Russ · 12-18-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
sorry can't tell you

No prob.

Yngwie · 12-19-2004, 04:04 AM

Final results after 4 days....

34 sales
27 953 clicks
1:822.2

$561

polish_aristocrat · 12-19-2004, 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
1:800

horrible ratios, so horrible traffic but there is tons of it

1:800 is horrible ratio? that's pretty average

andrej_NDC · 12-19-2004, 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
1:800

horrible ratios, so horrible traffic but there is tons of it

those are 800 raw hits, so probably 600 unique visitors, on a #1 hun spot, on a gallery with high CTR, I would say, its more than ok

average submitters do 1:600+ with 2% CTR on more quality traffic

pradaboy · 12-19-2004, 05:58 AM

I agree with biskoppen and Bat...

It's getting harder and harder to make good profits with spots because prices are going up and never come down.

You'd have to be a paysite owner nowadays to make good profit on a topspot @ TheHun.

andrej_NDC · 12-19-2004, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by pradaboy
I agree with biskoppen and Bat...

It's getting harder and harder to make good profits with spots because prices are going up and never come down.

You'd have to be a paysite owner nowadays to make good profit on a topspot @ TheHun.

bigdog · 12-19-2004, 06:17 AM

Also as a paysite owner you will get credit for joins from people who go join from the acutal site page and not though your affilate link.

pradaboy · 12-19-2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
Also as a paysite owner you will get credit for joins from people who go join from the acutal site page and not though your affilate link.

I'm not sure what your point is but most sponsors use 90 day cookies nowadays so don't worry about getting credit

Sosa · 12-19-2004, 04:09 PM

looks good

BackToMine · 12-19-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
Also as a paysite owner you will get credit for joins from people who go join from the acutal site page and not though your affilate link.

cookie cookie cookie

andrej_NDC · 12-20-2004, 11:13 AM

36 sales - 1:778.1

bigdog · 12-20-2004, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by pradaboy
I'm not sure what your point is but most sponsors use 90 day cookies nowadays so don't worry about getting credit

doesn't help if you got cookies turned off

pradaboy · 12-20-2004, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
doesn't help if you got cookies turned off

true, I'm not even gonna argue with you that a paysite isn't better to OWN yourself coz it is. Only when working with affiliates you have to keep in mind that it will only pay off when you hit bigger numbers coz the startup cost is pretty high

12-18-2004, 04:45 PM	#52
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Congrats on the sales as that traffic can run hot and cold. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

12-18-2004, 05:02 PM	#61
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	this was the gallery http://smashingmovies.com/andrej/ __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

12-18-2004, 05:12 PM	#62
Paparazzi Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,488	Nice stats Yngwie My last 2-5 spot broke even the first couple days and then the recurring was kicking in. Still have a few active members from that spot 9 months ago Can't wait for my topspot in January __________________ Pure Level(3) Premium Bandwidth When Quality Counts

12-18-2004, 05:29 PM	#64
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Congrats happy that you did well very nice christmas present... __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

12-19-2004, 04:04 AM	#69
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	Final results after 4 days.... 34 sales 27 953 clicks 1:822.2 $561 __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

12-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#57
Nima Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,192	way to go Yngwie and Andrej on a kickass program you can't go wrong with nextdoorcash's sites

12-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#58
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	biskoppen, very good points

12-18-2004, 05:55 PM	#65
FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	congrats. I never win

12-19-2004, 05:58 AM	#72
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	I agree with biskoppen and Bat... It's getting harder and harder to make good profits with spots because prices are going up and never come down. You'd have to be a paysite owner nowadays to make good profit on a topspot @ TheHun. __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

12-19-2004, 06:17 AM	#74
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Also as a paysite owner you will get credit for joins from people who go join from the acutal site page and not though your affilate link.

12-19-2004, 04:09 PM	#76
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	looks good

12-20-2004, 11:13 AM	#78
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	36 sales - 1:778.1