Dialers and their promotion? - GoFuckYourself.com

danevans · 10-12-2001, 05:34 AM

Hello,
Just wondering if it's allowed to state on a page that a dialer *.exe is a freeware product etc.. I know that the word "free", as in "you don't have to pay in any way to use it" is a forbidden word, but freeWARE has a bit different meaning (as in "it can be freely shared among friends etc).. And english is not my 1st language so it's kinda hard for me to figure this out from some reseller's TOS page..
help please

tenletters · 10-12-2001, 06:07 AM

Most of them state that you cannot
use the word free at all in the
ad. I would assume this means all
variations of the word.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 10-12-2001, 06:20 AM

Why the fuck do you dialer people want to find new creative ways to FOOL the surfer into downloading your dialers ?!?

I have never understood that for the life of me ...

And then it is the SAME buch of you fucking crybabies that want to know why everybody hates dialers and dialer people ...

You ever hear the cliche about one bad apple ruining the bushel ??

YOU my friend, ARE that apple !!

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Gary · 10-12-2001, 06:37 AM

Its like my daddy used to always tell me, "Son, eat your supper!"

I dont think anything else needs to be said.

wolfshade · 10-12-2001, 07:47 AM

No you can not promote a dialer as freeware because it is not.

Freeware means it is free to use and a dialer is not. A dialer gives you a very high phonebill

Therefor promoting it as freeware is fraud and not allowed.

See people it is realy not that hard answering a question like this without a flame

Wolfshade

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danevans · 10-12-2001, 07:53 AM

OK, ok, me = stupid, I got it

I did say that english is not my native language, and my post started with "just wondering"..

Tam · 10-12-2001, 08:28 AM

Wolfshade....... wow......... hey we did it....... we have a dialer question here and no flaming......... kinda cool huh?

dane..... the way I run mine is this:

you use the word free in anyway shape or form and I shut you down. The software may be free but the use of it is NOT and promoting it as such can cause YOU not to get paid and the dialer company you are promoting can then be fined or even shut down. So the use of the word free is a major no no.

I have seen alot of folks trying to skirt around this issue in some manner or another and the use of the word free anywhere in the vacinity of most dialers will cause you not to get paid for the work you have done. We can't have that now can we?

Tam

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DaveKnell · 10-12-2001, 12:40 PM

Well, as ever, there's lots of black and white answers to a grey issue here. For example, it's entirely within the bounds of acceptability according to the FTC (well, strictly speaking, some lawyers who predict what the FTC's view on something might be) to promote a dialler as being FREE* if, for example, the first two minutes of the call are free. You'll probably have seen this sort of promotion on psychic services and so on. Problem is that this sort of thing will lead to even higher chargebacks than usual..

Dave
*first two minutes, then billed at $3.99/minute.

10-12-2001, 05:34 AM	#1
danevans Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 1,295	Dialers and their promotion? Hello, Just wondering if it's allowed to state on a page that a dialer *.exe is a freeware product etc.. I know that the word "free", as in "you don't have to pay in any way to use it" is a forbidden word, but freeWARE has a bit different meaning (as in "it can be freely shared among friends etc).. And english is not my 1st language so it's kinda hard for me to figure this out from some reseller's TOS page.. help please

10-12-2001, 06:07 AM	#2
tenletters Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: the deep south Posts: 2,079	Most of them state that you cannot use the word free at all in the ad. I would assume this means all variations of the word.

10-12-2001, 06:20 AM	#3
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	Why the fuck do you dialer people want to find new creative ways to FOOL the surfer into downloading your dialers ?!? I have never understood that for the life of me ... And then it is the SAME buch of you fucking crybabies that want to know why everybody hates dialers and dialer people ... You ever hear the cliche about one bad apple ruining the bushel ?? YOU my friend, ARE that apple !! ------------------ Airforce come and dey flatten your home !!! The Black Sheep of the Boneprone Family I like to rub HERTURN on my nipples :D

10-12-2001, 06:37 AM	#4
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Its like my daddy used to always tell me, "Son, eat your supper!" I dont think anything else needs to be said.

10-12-2001, 07:47 AM	#5
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	No you can not promote a dialer as freeware because it is not. Freeware means it is free to use and a dialer is not. A dialer gives you a very high phonebill Therefor promoting it as freeware is fraud and not allowed. See people it is realy not that hard answering a question like this without a flame Wolfshade ------------------ Wolfshade's Moneymakers Get paid per minute at Dialerclopedia, per run at Nodialercash, or be a sponsor yourself!!! It's the choice of an Adult generation! ICQ#49873955 [email protected]

10-12-2001, 07:53 AM	#6
danevans Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 1,295	OK, ok, me = stupid, I got it I did say that english is not my native language, and my post started with "just wondering"..

10-12-2001, 08:28 AM	#7
Tam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,488	Wolfshade....... wow......... hey we did it....... we have a dialer question here and no flaming......... kinda cool huh? dane..... the way I run mine is this: you use the word free in anyway shape or form and I shut you down. The software may be free but the use of it is NOT and promoting it as such can cause YOU not to get paid and the dialer company you are promoting can then be fined or even shut down. So the use of the word free is a major no no. I have seen alot of folks trying to skirt around this issue in some manner or another and the use of the word free anywhere in the vacinity of most dialers will cause you not to get paid for the work you have done. We can't have that now can we? Tam ------------------ Vector Force Hosting!! DialerHeaven! You too can be Vectorized!!

10-12-2001, 12:40 PM	#8
DaveKnell Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: London, England Posts: 76	Well, as ever, there's lots of black and white answers to a grey issue here. For example, it's entirely within the bounds of acceptability according to the FTC (well, strictly speaking, some lawyers who predict what the FTC's view on something might be) to promote a dialler as being FREE* if, for example, the first two minutes of the call are free. You'll probably have seen this sort of promotion on psychic services and so on. Problem is that this sort of thing will lead to even higher chargebacks than usual.. Dave *first two minutes, then billed at $3.99/minute.