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Old 12-16-2004, 01:17 PM   #1
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Cartoon Hitler pisses off idiots

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/...&w=RTR&coview=

summary: An artist drew a series of cartoon-like (pop art) hitler and nazi pieces. He displayed them in his gallery just miles from a nazi death camp. People, mostly jews are pissed.


My take on this is that he should be able to display this art and it should get a LOT of attention. As is briefly mentioned in the article, people forget that this guy got millions of germans to follow him and believe whatever he said. He was not a monster when he did all this, he looked like a really attractive option to the people at the time. Someone who embraced classicly German values. Someone you'd want your daughter to marry. When images portraying him as an attractive individual are banned, we are too likely to fall into the trap of expecting our monsters to LOOK like monsters.

my take at least
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:18 PM   #2
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we dont have to like it but he should have the right to paint what he wants
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:19 PM   #3
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"Story not found!!!"

and stalin was worse than hitler, but no one really has a problem with him.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:19 PM   #4
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:20 PM   #5
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jews are easy to piss off.

its like putting a knife through butter.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:21 PM   #6
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:23 PM   #7
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Sorry for the broken link guys:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/1...9,00050003.htm

Try that one.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=336237

or that one
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:23 PM   #8
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Sorry for the broken link guys:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/1...9,00050003.htm

Try that one.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=336237

or that one
Story not found!!!
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:24 PM   #9
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the jews are one of the biggest whiners on earth, i wish them and every muslim on earth would just kill eachother already so we can get on with making the earth better.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:27 PM   #10
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Story not found!!!
ok, now you're just being a smartass
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:35 PM   #11
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ok, now you're just being a smartass
Sure, I mean, I hope someday an Islamic artist will show his paintings of Osama Bin Laden near Ground Zero.

Let's show the world how open minded the americans are...

Just in case you are not smart enough, that was sarcastic.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:37 PM   #12
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Sure, I mean, I hope someday an Islamic artist will show his paintings of Osama Bin Laden near Ground Zero.

Let's show the world how open minded the americans are...

Good example
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:46 PM   #13
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Good example


No it's not. A more fitting example would be showing the same thing in afghanistan. The point that The german people should be able to see what they put in power.

This guy isnt going to london and painting pictures glorifying bombers that leveled it, its more close to home.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:56 PM   #14
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Hagbard, that is the most intelligent thing i have seen anyone on this board write in a long time.
Obviously he was a very charming and charismatic man, this must be true otherwise why would so many people follow him.
No i dont agree with hs ideas, well most of them. Although he did have a great idea for unifying the world, which in theory is great.
This artist is being unfairly treated, he is simply offering us another point of view to consider, which then it is up to us to base our own opinions on, not to suppress his. Sounds to me like some people have their own Hitler complex.
I got into this exact arguement with a gen. ed. teacher in college.

"Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it."
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:58 PM   #15
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Hagbard, that is the most intelligent thing i have seen anyone on this board write in a long time.
Obviously he was a very charming and charismatic man, this must be true otherwise why would so many people follow him.
No i dont agree with hs ideas, well most of them. Although he did have a great idea for unifying the world, which in theory is great.
This artist is being unfairly treated, he is simply offering us another point of view to consider, which then it is up to us to base our own opinions on, not to suppress his. Sounds to me like some people have their own Hitler complex.
I got into this exact arguement with a gen. ed. teacher in college.

"Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it."
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