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Fabien · 12-15-2004, 04:19 PM

Hi
I would like to know what languages do you use to compile stuff for Linux/Apache

In other words, in your HUMBLE opinion

what's the best ?

AndrewKanuck · 12-15-2004, 04:20 PM

Fastest is still CGI with C - PHP has come a long way, but still needs work. Perl is great too - but still not as fast as CGI.

Fabien · 12-15-2004, 04:59 PM

Others ?

Alky · 12-15-2004, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Fastest is still CGI with C - PHP has come a long way, but still needs work. Perl is great too - but still not as fast as CGI.

CGI isnt a language

Alky · 12-15-2004, 05:11 PM

C is by far the fastest.... with PHP the slowest... perl is in the middle, but much faster then PHP.

AndrewKanuck · 12-15-2004, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alky
CGI isnt a language

Doing CGI's with C is what I said, and C is a language - learn english, or learn C - both are great languages.

Alky · 12-15-2004, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Perl is great too - but still not as fast as CGI.

you sure you know what your talking about?

richard · 12-15-2004, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Fastest is still CGI with C - PHP has come a long way, but still needs work. Perl is great too - but still not as fast as CGI.

LOL.

Whatever you do, don't ask this guy to actually write any code for you.

Short of writing your own server, the fastest would theoretically be an apache module coded in C.

After that, the question isn't about which language you're writing in, it's about the configuration of the server.

Both Perl and PHP are interpreted, so they must be compiled on-the-fly. The main difference is that PHP is normally installed as an apache module, which means apache compiles the code itself, compared with having to execute "Perl.exe" for perl code.

You can invert that, and have PHP running via the CGI as an external executable, and Perl compiled into apache (mod_perl).

Then you've got things like fastCGI, Zend performance suite, etc etc etc.

That's without taking into consideration the programmer's skill.

Fabien · 12-15-2004, 07:14 PM

Nice output !

More ?

iBOUNCER · 12-15-2004, 07:17 PM

I've written and reviewed millions of lines of code over the years in a dozen different languages on a half-dozen platforms, and I agree with richard 100%.

Quote:

Originally posted by richard
LOL.

Whatever you do, don't ask this guy to actually write any code for you.

Short of writing your own server, the fastest would theoretically be an apache module coded in C.

After that, the question isn't about which language you're writing in, it's about the configuration of the server.

Both Perl and PHP are interpreted, so they must be compiled on-the-fly. The main difference is that PHP is normally installed as an apache module, which means apache compiles the code itself, compared with having to execute "Perl.exe" for perl code.

You can invert that, and have PHP running via the CGI as an external executable, and Perl compiled into apache (mod_perl).

Then you've got things like fastCGI, Zend performance suite, etc etc etc.

That's without taking into consideration the programmer's skill.

fischi · 12-15-2004, 07:20 PM

PHP maybe has the smoothest learning curve, Perl follows.

But, learning programming is not learning the programming language, its far more and more important than the language itself.

beergood · 12-15-2004, 07:29 PM

I assume you mean "write" stuff instead of "compile". If you're going to compile something into an executable you're talking about C.

If you're looking to write some sort of application for the web you're most likely talking about PERL as your best choice. It just works well with *nix. PERL and PHP don't compile they're interpreted languages.

I run a variety of PERL applications that work wonderfully. PERL is probably the most popular with people working with web servers and there are a ton of modules for just about every imaginable idea. You had best have total access to your servers if you're going to use PERL so that you can install any and all modules. If you're working through some paid hosting with limited access to your machines then consider PHP. Its much more portable on the whole.

http://www.cpan.org

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beergood Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: United States Posts: 2,918	I assume you mean "write" stuff instead of "compile". If you're going to compile something into an executable you're talking about C. If you're looking to write some sort of application for the web you're most likely talking about PERL as your best choice. It just works well with *nix. PERL and PHP don't compile they're interpreted languages. I run a variety of PERL applications that work wonderfully. PERL is probably the most popular with people working with web servers and there are a ton of modules for just about every imaginable idea. You had best have total access to your servers if you're going to use PERL so that you can install any and all modules. If you're working through some paid hosting with limited access to your machines then consider PHP. Its much more portable on the whole. http://www.cpan.org __________________ icq: 320340263

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Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,789	Others ?

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Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	C is by far the fastest.... with PHP the slowest... perl is in the middle, but much faster then PHP.

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Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,789	Nice output ! More ?

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fischi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Teutonia Posts: 252	PHP maybe has the smoothest learning curve, Perl follows. But, learning programming is not learning the programming language, its far more and more important than the language itself.