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eGawd · 12-14-2004, 10:12 PM

I stumbled upon this document that I think many of you would be interested in reading about Ibill. This quote will show you what I mean:

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As a result of Nexcend's five-year membership and marketing agreement with iBill, we believe that our proposed XTV business will be able to market its products and video services to the entire iBill database of several thousand Web merchants and approximately 29.0 million consumers who have processed
transactions involving adult content using the iBill system. We believe that this will provide us with a substantial opportunity to rapidly penetrate the consumer market for our adult entertainment products without the extensive costs associated with attempting to purchase a consumer database or engaging in direct advertising.

These are our customers and they don't have any right to be mailing these individuals out. There's so much in that document so let the drama begin!

Here's the link: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...ractive_s3.txt

Doctor Dre · 12-14-2004, 10:14 PM

Ibill lists with cc info and other bullshti have been floating arround

Hinc · 12-14-2004, 10:16 PM

Could you give us a brief on what that partnership is?

Hmm anyway, I guess going into the mailing business wouldnt be the smartest Ibill move, but then, who knows if they have any moves left....

eGawd · 12-14-2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by Hinc
Could you give us a brief on what that partnership is?

Hmm anyway, I guess going into the mailing business wouldnt be the smartest Ibill move, but then, who knows if they have any moves left....

Im not sure, hopefully someone else will give us some more info.

eGawd · 12-15-2004, 06:09 AM

Anyone?

eGawd · 12-15-2004, 04:15 PM

So how about them iBillers

NaughtyRob · 12-15-2004, 04:17 PM

Hmmm. Interesting.

chri$tian · 12-15-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Hinc
Could you give us a brief on what that partnership is?

Hmm anyway, I guess going into the mailing business wouldnt be the smartest Ibill move, but then, who knows if they have any moves left....

XTV? Is it this? http://www.xtv.com/

Nysus · 12-15-2004, 04:20 PM

I imagine if that is found to be true that people will be pissed and seek damages.

Matt

Nysus · 12-15-2004, 04:46 PM

I'm guessing IBill won't make any statement regarding this?

I'm sure everyone will leave IBill if they found out what the plans were.

Matt

Bossholio · 12-15-2004, 04:54 PM

I'm sure IBD would not do anything they do not have the right to do being that they are a public company. and yes. www.xtv.com is the website. See you all at the Show.

Nysus, I-bill does not own XTV. If I-Bill did a deal with a company to give them a liscence to their database Thats not XTV's problem. Besides, I am confident that having owned Holio.net I can get to everyone they have on their list..

Dave

SixNine · 12-15-2004, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Bossholio
I'm sure IBD would not do anything they do not have the right to do being that they are a public company. and yes. www.xtv.com is the website. See you all at the Show.

Nysus, I-bill does not own XTV. If I-Bill did a deal with a company to give them a liscence to their database Thats not XTV's problem. Besides, I am confident that having owned Holio.net I can get to everyone they have on their list..

Dave

IMHO your post assumes readers know who you are in relation to this topic.

Cogitator · 12-15-2004, 09:13 PM

Damn. I just read that prospectus. iBill's problem isn't iBill! It's the company that owns it! No matter how well iBill does, the parent company is going to drag it down!

eGawd · 12-16-2004, 12:24 AM

They are trying to make the best out of nothing

Webby · 12-16-2004, 12:27 AM

eGawd:

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They are trying to make the best out of nothing

Sad. but I suspect 100% accurate...

It is little more than paper shuffling.. closely linked to habits displayed by Enron and a fair number of other corps..

Boss Traffic Jim · 12-16-2004, 12:32 AM

Interresting for sure, but personally I wouldnt do any biz with ibill.....EVER

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Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	I'm guessing IBill won't make any statement regarding this? I'm sure everyone will leave IBill if they found out what the plans were. Matt __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html

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Bossholio Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Calabasas, CA Posts: 148	I'm sure IBD would not do anything they do not have the right to do being that they are a public company. and yes. www.xtv.com is the website. See you all at the Show. Nysus, I-bill does not own XTV. If I-Bill did a deal with a company to give them a liscence to their database Thats not XTV's problem. Besides, I am confident that having owned Holio.net I can get to everyone they have on their list.. Dave __________________ www.holio.net www.xtv.com Last edited by Bossholio; 12-15-2004 at 04:56 PM..

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eGawd Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: La Jolla Posts: 567	Anyone?

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eGawd Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: La Jolla Posts: 567	So how about them iBillers

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Cogitator Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 672	Damn. I just read that prospectus. iBill's problem isn't iBill! It's the company that owns it! No matter how well iBill does, the parent company is going to drag it down! __________________ - this space intentionally left blank -

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eGawd Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: La Jolla Posts: 567	They are trying to make the best out of nothing

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Boss Traffic Jim Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,150	Interresting for sure, but personally I wouldnt do any biz with ibill.....EVER