yeah, knowing what I know now - i wouldn't do a navigation in flash for SEO purposes. but the design I posted still can be easily done in normal css/html.

Gary,

I just sent you an e-mail on layouts for GaySex.com & Porno.com.

Kevin

i didnt say they only did flash, neither did you, but you talk about a company thats pretty much only known for their flash designs, which is obviously the high priced crap you were quoting. $30k and 60k for minimal flash or static html? lolllll ok

I sale clues for cheap. Wanna get 1?

See GoOGLE Index page?

Thats all you need.

Envisiontext's got what you need.

2advanced is really BAD ASS. but yeah, perhaps not the best solution for men.com (due to flash)

Galleryseek's designs look pretty clean.

If there is one thing I've learned and this goes for myself as well its next to impossible to have a room of people look at a site and all agree they like the design.

When it comes to web sites everyone has their own likes and dislikes for color, spacing, buttons, flash, backgrounds, fonts, and on and on. There are so many elements and that is why you get such a variety of opinions.

The hardest thing so far for me has just been getting everyone on the teams to agree. Its a real challenge.

Gallerseek just did this for us. And both are sharp designs.

http://www.men.com/s8/

http://www.men.com/s11/

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Kev, could you get on icq for just a min? got the worlds fastest question.

I'm on Brand.

but they are primarily search. They want it simple... get the surfer off their site asap while giving them what they came looking for.

Men.com being a portal, it will want visitors there as long as possible, so, it will need sticky content., not minimal like Google

your a retard... fuck off... :321GFY

great comeback.

Just dont come back with any more stupid ass suggestions, mmmkay?

Remember, I got those clues for sale, cheap.

"webmaster enterance"


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I hope at least KRL gets designers that know how to spell - cant say the same for you tho.

yea, but your away :(

I always use that too when people get out of control with opinions.

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If that simplistic design doesn't speak volumes nothing will.

I really like the one Maxim did on your contest: http://maximuza.com/mendotcom/mendotcom1.html

I like that kind of style for a portal, a clean and futuristic look.

I still have some lovely unused headers :1orglaugh

http://www.prodesignlab.com/clients/men/recap.jpg

http://www.prodesignlab.com/clients/men/men9.jpg

http://www.prodesignlab.com/clients/men/men8.jpg

I think you need to stay away from dark backgrounds, I also don't like the fact that you use flask for your menu.

This is the best I've seen,
http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow111.gif

s11 is too similar to http://www.healthygo.com/ ....

askmen.com = great design. Of course if you want men.com to be a men's portal.

in time their version will be completely redesigned to set it aside from healthygo.

and bodygain is more geared towards men, and weight lifting, building muscle mass. i think the dark harder appearence suits it well :)

im going to be making a mainstream version of it though with a white background.

:thumbsup In the future is the site going to contain some good writers so surfers will come back? seems now that the articles posted could are gentric and it is a 50/50 chance if the surfer will hit the back key or an ad. Either way, let me know.

Btw, I am not a writer. :)

designs are very neat. great job! i like the yellow bron header very cool to look at.:thumbsup

Yeh, that was in the top 2.

We bought thousands of dollars of articles from writers but really weren't that impressed by what they turned in.

I'm telling you, most guys here do sites based on pictures. Try doing a magazine and you'll see how fun it is. NOT!

I have adult in the back pocket if this becomes too much of a headache, but we are getting advertisers and some of the other features we have upcoming can't have adult, so we're going to give them a shot and see what happens.

The one nice thing about a direct navigation domain is the free traffic flow never stops, so you have the luxury to experiment at minimal risk and cost.

I'd hate to see that happen. It'll work out :)

It would be shames too use it for adult. I think there is much more opportunity/potential keeping it as a men?s portal/magazine, long term that is. I think in house writers/designers is the way too go with such a big project?..

However, even if its keep mainstream you?ll probably see most of your traffic going to you ?sex? pages?.you need a doctor sex, get someone exclusive.

Also, don?t forget about seo, askmen is huge with that?.

If you don?t mind me asking, what is/was your vision/goal for this project?

http://www.mr2creationz.com/mr2____p.../01/index.html
http://www.mr2creationz.com/mr2____p.../02/index.html
http://www.mr2creationz.com/mr2____p.../03/index.html

:glugglug

So far its going fine with the mainstream approach it just takes way longer than doing it adult style, and adds many more elements to the equation.

I need to find a way next to build in an extremely discreet navigation route to adult content on there without turning off the mainstream advertisers. Any ideas would be helpful.

One idea we had was to build it into the concierge club which is another feature we're still developing where only registered members will have access to those links.

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Those ones + the ones posted by Galleryseek, thats what you are looking for! Very good! :thumbsup

1.. 2... 3.....

5 thumbs up! can we talk now? :winkwink:

goodluck on finding your new men.com design.

Top site on the Net to search for single men (and women) and also provide a full featured entertainment style magazine.

I personally liked Ray's 3rd one quite a bit.

we have differing tastes, that is the one i like the least. if I had to choose I'd pick the first one - although its pretty much a toss up between the 1st and 2nd.

Got it. That's cool stuff on there. Forwarding over to my content manager now. Should he contact you or them direct?

good designs but to much flash - good color choices!

they look good but ease out the flash a bit.

i like your colors. that rollover click is nasty.

This is what kills me. So what is just enough flash???

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Really, for such a big big (big) portal - minimize the amount of flash.